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**Bismaya** · 10-06-2020, 10:50 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by geordy View Post

The front tyre of my bike is about to run out, whereas my rear tyre has more life left. Odometer reading is about 20k.
What would the issue be?
Usually the rear tyre wears out before the front..
Any ideas??

That's a pretty standard life for the tyre. I would consider changing both tyres at once instead of replacing them one by one. I'm not sure why your front tyre might have worn quickly, but it might be dependent on variety of factors, including the roads where you ride and all. The Zapper Rear our bikes are really study in terms of life and tread wear.

**geordy** · 10-07-2020, 12:15 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by Bismaya View Post

That's a pretty standard life for the tyre. I would consider changing both tyres at once instead of replacing them one by one. I'm not sure why your front tyre might have worn quickly, but it might be dependent on variety of factors, including the roads where you ride and all. The Zapper Rear our bikes are really study in terms of life and tread wear.

Thanks. I'll consider that.
How's Pirelli Angel Ct??
Which tyre is good, considering all the conditions?

**Bismaya** · 10-07-2020, 08:38 AM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by geordy View Post

Thanks. I'll consider that.
How's Pirelli Angel Ct??
Which tyre is good, considering all the conditions?

Angel CT is a soft compound tyre that is made for good grip. The life isn't that much unlike medium or hard compound ones. Take a look at the MRF Masseters maybe.

**ashwanth.r** · 10-08-2020, 09:23 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by amit_purohit20 View Post

Its a design flaw, for most indian bikes the outlet of the Crankcase ventilation pipe is vented out downwards below the engine oil level. Whereas in Honda its vented in the air cleaner cavity which is located above the crankcase, hence easier for the water to enter the crankcase and mix with oil.

Not really, I won't call it a flaw - one just have to be more careful as Hornet's air filter box can't hold much water. In NS/RS 200, the filter box can hold a little bit of water due to design. Just don't pressure wash Hornet with seat removed and renew seals/breather tube whenever required - water will never enter engine.

In most of the scooters and motorcycles, the crankcase is ventilated or 'breathes' to the air filter box. The pipe you see 'downwards' in some scooters/bikes is the one that collects debris, little bit of oil and few drops of water. In Activa/Pleasure, this is a transparent pink-colored pipe/plug near the gearbox, but the engine is still ventilated via the air filter box only. This waste pipe should be cleaned at every service.

**amit_purohit20** · 10-28-2020, 06:48 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by ashwanth.r View Post

Just don't pressure wash Hornet with seat removed and renew seals/breather tube whenever required - water will never enter engine.
.

My friends hornet was standing in rain and it had water entry in the oil sump two times inspite of mechanic repairing the same. Just because my friend was a little diligent so he could observe water in oil otherwise his engine would have got ruined.
I have never heard of grit getting stucked in the air vent pipe and it causing any failure as such. I agree to your comments that if there is grit accumulation in the vent pipe it can lead to leakage of oil seals and seepage.

Hence I deduce that the design which can cause permanent engine damage because of a failure mode should be declared a design flaw.

**ashwanth.r** · 10-28-2020, 06:51 PM

Re: Honda CB Hornet 160R Owners Experiences

Originally posted by amit_purohit20 View Post

Hence I deduce that the design which can cause permanent engine damage because of a failure mode should be declared a design flaw.

Good deduction. Accepted and DECLARED!

**unik** · 12-31-2020, 06:17 PM

After 3.5 years and some 33k kilometers, the eighth service was done. Cost was Rs. 1100/-. Apart from general service and engine oil change, the air filter was replaced with a new one. The service job was not great, not my usual service center due to COVID threat. The guy warned me the brake performance will be less for a few kilometers, after the diesel wash. So as soon as I reached home, the brakes were cleaned with soap solution and it helped. I found out the idle speed was set to some 2000 rpm. As the engine was hot, I immediately adjusted it to approx. 1400 rpm on the tachometer. And the clutch was tight. That was also adjusted to my liking. I don’t know why he adjusted all these things without me complaining on any of those!!

Keeping the service experience aside, I would say, another happy year of ownership. My trusted transporter is still young and breathing fire…

Thank you all for the support.

**ashwanth.r** · 12-31-2020, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by unik View Post

After 3.5 years and some 33k kilometers, the eighth service was done. Cost was Rs. 1100/-. Apart from general service and engine oil change, the air filter was replaced with a new one. The service job was not great, not my usual service center due to COVID threat. The guy warned me the brake performance will be less for a few kilometers, after the diesel wash. So as soon as I reached home, the brakes were cleaned with soap solution and it helped. I found out the idle speed was set to some 2000 rpm. As the engine was hot, I immediately adjusted it to approx. 1400 rpm on the tachometer. And the clutch was tight. That was also adjusted to my liking. I don’t know why he adjusted all these things without me complaining on any of those!!

Keeping the service experience aside, I would say, another happy year of ownership. My trusted transporter is still young and breathing fire…

Thank you all for the support.

Nice to know you completed 33k without much issues. They do *all* these unnecessary/dangerous stuff at Suzuki SVC too.

**FreeSpiritedBiker** · 12-31-2020, 11:03 PM

Hello guys,
I want to change both the tyres of my Hornet.
Will you please suggest me which tyres should I buy.
I commute in city traffic only and my main priority is good pickup.
So is it safe to install a bit smaller tyre in the rear, as I heard that smaller rear tyre would increase the pickup of the bike.
But at the same time, I'm concerned about the overall impact it would have on the bike.

**kiran2508** · 01-01-2021, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by FreeSpiritedBiker View Post

Hello guys,
I want to change both the tyres of my Hornet.
Will you please suggest me which tyres should I buy.
I commute in city traffic only and my main priority is good pickup.
So is it safe to install a bit smaller tyre in the rear, as I heard that smaller rear tyre would increase the pickup of the bike.
But at the same time, I'm concerned about the overall impact it would have on the bike.

Honda has given 140/70-17 tires as stock after lot of R&D, that size is chosen for a reason! Best to stick with stock size and not to mess with riding dynamics by downsizing size.
There are other ways with which you can increase pickup, put a bigger size rear sprocket instead of putting smaller tyre.

For tyre brands, for best performance you can get the the Michelin Pilot Street or Pirelli Angel CT. Both are bit expensive.
If you want affordable ones CEAT Zoom XL's and Michelin Pilot Sporty are good choices for your tyre size.

**FreeSpiritedBiker** · 01-01-2021, 11:30 PM

Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post

Honda has given 140/70-17 tires as stock after lot of R&D, that size is chosen for a reason! Best to stick with stock size and not to mess with riding dynamics by downsizing size.
There are other ways with which you can increase pickup, put a bigger size rear sprocket instead of putting smaller tyre.

For tyre brands, for best performance you can get the the Michelin Pilot Street or Pirelli Angel CT. Both are bit expensive.
If you want affordable ones CEAT Zoom XL's and Michelin Pilot Sporty are good choices for your tyre size.

Thanks for your valuable reply.
Is there any third party tried and tested rear sprocket which you can recommend?
I'm used to the fast pickup and speed of Gixxer, that's why looking to achieve the same in Hornet.

By the way, Michelin pilot street and pirelli angel CT are out of budget for me.
Also, what about MRF Masseter?
Are ceat zoom xl & Michelin pilot sport tyres better than MRF Masseter?

Thanks again.

**kiran2508** · 01-02-2021, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by FreeSpiritedBiker View Post

Is there any third party tried and tested rear sprocket which you can recommend?

By the way, Michelin pilot street and pirelli angel CT are out of budget for me.
Also, what about MRF Masseter?
Are ceat zoom xl & Michelin pilot sport tyres better than MRF Masseter?

Hornet already comes with one of the biggest rear sprockets on Indian bikes with 47T, so only option is to change the front sprocket to lower number from stock 15T. Either 13T/14T will do the job. Either from Twister, Shine front sprocket.

For the best tyres it all depends on your requirement, there is no one tyre fits all needs.
Cost vs Tyre life vs Dry grip vsCorner grip vs Wet grip vs Dirt grip

MRF Zapper(stock) - Doesn't have good corner, wet and dirt grip. But has all other 3. Tyre becomes useless after rubber gets hard and looses its softness
MRF Masseter - No good wet and dirt grip, but has all good other aspects, good dry grip and life. Costs 1000 more than Ceat.
Ceat Zoom XL - Has good dry, wet grip and corner grip, medium dirt grip and trye life is less. But cheapest
Michelin Pilot sport - Has very good dry, wet and average grip, but bad corner grip. But once the tyre life reaches 70% wear and gets hard, suddenly it loses all grip level and becomes like a slick tyre very bad in wet and dirt.

**FreeSpiritedBiker** · 01-06-2021, 11:03 AM

Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post

Hornet already comes with one of the biggest rear sprockets on Indian bikes with 47T, so only option is to change the front sprocket to lower number from stock 15T. Either 13T/14T will do the job. Either from Twister, Shine front sprocket.

For the best tyres it all depends on your requirement, there is no one tyre fits all needs.
Cost vs Tyre life vs Dry grip vsCorner grip vs Wet grip vs Dirt grip

MRF Zapper(stock) - Doesn't have good corner, wet and dirt grip. But has all other 3. Tyre becomes useless after rubber gets hard and looses its softness
MRF Masseter - No good wet and dirt grip, but has all good other aspects, good dry grip and life. Costs 1000 more than Ceat.
Ceat Zoom XL - Has good dry, wet grip and corner grip, medium dirt grip and trye life is less. But cheapest
Michelin Pilot sport - Has very good dry, wet and average grip, but bad corner grip. But once the tyre life reaches 70% wear and gets hard, suddenly it loses all grip level and becomes like a slick tyre very bad in wet and dirt.

I'm not getting separate front socket anywhere in the market.
Looks like I'll have buy the whole chain kit which has 13 or 14t front sprocket.
Will you please recommend me any reliable chain kit for my need?

**FreeSpiritedBiker** · 01-07-2021, 12:05 AM

Finally found it.
Should I buy this?

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**kiran2508** · 01-07-2021, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by FreeSpiritedBiker View Post

Finally found it.
Should I buy this?

Congrats on the finding only front seperatly.

Just verify the number of inner teeth couth and spacing between each teeth, from the pic I count 6 inner teeths. And verify the holes align by looking at your bike's front sprocket and compare with the pic. 99% I feel it should be a fit.

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