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**ayrus** · 10-22-2018, 08:45 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by demon_speeding View Post

guys i was planning a ns200 or a apache 200.
i like the looks of ns but reliabilty,smoothness and dual channel abs is tilting me towards apache.
please guide me on abovementioned points.

Most important thing
If you are going for a NS 200, make sure it has MRF Tyres and not Eurogrips(slips). Even in case of ABS models, the Eurogrips till tend to skid.

**Aswinlogi** · 10-22-2018, 08:45 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by vengymgen View Post

I did a top speed of 128kmph when the bike had clocked 770kms on odo post my first service and I constantly rode at 80 to 90 kmph for around 5 to 10 minutes on highway. Will it cause any problem? But for the first 650 kms I never exceeded 55 kmph with a very rare ride at 65 to 70 kmph.

All bikes are ripped off, Redlined during the test drives initially before it reaches the ASC !

So short speed runs are good to engine and no need to worry !

You've finished your run-in I hope so!

**vengymgen** · 10-22-2018, 08:52 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post

All bikes are ripped off, Redlined during the test drives initially before it reaches the ASC !

So short speed runs are good to engine and no need to worry !

You've finished your run-in I hope so!

Yes during the time of delivery itself the bike had top speed recorded at 114kmph. When I enquired with showroom guys, they told that they used to test the bike at higher speed to ensure that there is no mistake with engine.

**Aswinlogi** · 10-22-2018, 09:04 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by vengymgen View Post

Yes during the time of delivery itself the bike had top speed recorded at 114kmph. When I enquired with showroom guys, they told that they used to test the bike at higher speed to ensure that there is no mistake with engine.

LOL in my Apache 160 4v , I ' ve noticed 143 !!(time of delivery) and shocked but I think it's impossible anyhow !!!

**deepakmadhivanan** · 10-23-2018, 09:07 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post

LOL in my Apache 160 4v , I ' ve noticed 143 !!(time of delivery) and shocked but I think it's impossible anyhow !!!

The speed sensor in apache 200 & 160 4v is in the output shaft so you can make the speedo run while the bike is in centre stand and revving up in 5th gear to record some insane readings.

**Aswinlogi** · 10-23-2018, 09:31 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by deepakmadhivanan View Post

The speed sensor in apache 200 & 160 4v is in the output shaft so you can make the speedo run while the bike is in centre stand and revving up in 5th gear to record some insane readings.

Yeah speedo is from rear wheel !!
I hope pulsars get it from the front wheel, Is it ?

**deepakmadhivanan** · 10-23-2018, 11:21 AM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by Aswinlogi View Post

Yeah speedo is from rear wheel !!
I hope pulsars get it from the front wheel, Is it ?

Actually it’s in the transmission’s output shaft. It’s much reliable than having it on wheels. But the down side is, even a sprocket ratio change will affect the accuracy of the speedo reading.

**demon_speeding** · 10-23-2018, 12:38 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

thanks a lot for the advice guys.
is the coolant leaking and mixing into engine oil issue still there.
and how imp is dual channel compared to single channel.
bike will be ridden in 100%city.
sorry didnt mention that before.
owned a tb500 before and it left me stranded many times and i dont have much time to visit service centres except for service only.
thanks again.

**jomson13** · 10-23-2018, 01:22 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by demon_speeding View Post

thanks a lot for the advice guys.
is the coolant leaking and mixing into engine oil issue still there.
and how imp is dual channel compared to single channel.
bike will be ridden in 100%city.
sorry didnt mention that before.
owned a tb500 before and it left me stranded many times and i dont have much time to visit service centres except for service only.
thanks again.

if you are looking for the fill it and forget it kind of bike, then I suggest you do consider the FZ25. Do take a test ride - you will find that it is the zippiest of the lot, handles supremely well and is very suitable for city rides. It also has the most de tuned engine of the lot and hence should be very very reliable in the long run. I was genuinely impressed by the bike but I ended up buying the apache since it was 30k cheaper and it came with a carburetor.

**sun105** · 10-23-2018, 01:23 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by demon_speeding View Post

thanks a lot for the advice guys.
is the coolant leaking and mixing into engine oil issue still there.
and how imp is dual channel compared to single channel.
bike will be ridden in 100%city.
sorry didnt mention that before.
owned a tb500 before and it left me stranded many times and i dont have much time to visit service centres except for service only.
thanks again.

it is not liquid cooled engine so no coolant ,hence no mixing with engine oil
for city riding nothing can beat apache series

**Adwait.R** · 10-23-2018, 04:15 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Just out of curiosity... What is the difference between Oil-Cooled and liquid-cooled engines? I guess liquid-cooled engines use a coolant.

**dual disc 200** · 10-23-2018, 04:29 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by A.R View Post

Just out of curiosity... What is the difference between Oil-Cooled and liquid-cooled engines? I guess liquid-cooled engines use a coolant.

Oil Cooling is where a portion of the oil present in the crankcase being circulated in a radiator to allow cooling a bit more efficiently than cooling within the crankcases itself.

In Liquid cooling also known as Water cooled - Water in general (Now mixed with coolant) is allowed to circulate the head around a jacket that cools the engine.

This is a basic explanation for understanding.

P.S. Both uses radiator . In Oil cooled engine - it is the oil that flows through and in an LC it's the water that flows through.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 10-23-2018, 07:22 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by A.R View Post

Just out of curiosity... What is the difference between Oil-Cooled and liquid-cooled engines? I guess liquid-cooled engines use a coolant.

Adding to what fellow Bhian added.

Liquid Cooled is a "decent" term for water mixed with anti-freeze (the green, blue, orange stuff) in the right proportion and used. Water Cooled, Liquid Cooled, Concoction Cooled, you name it cooled, these are nothing but water and anti-freeze in their right proportions.

Oil Cooled is where the engine oil is pumped to an external radiator, same as Water/Liquid Cooled where the oil is cooled the by the air flowing over the radiator and then the cooled oil is circulated back to the engine, this way the engine temperature is kept in check. In a water/liquid cooled, it's water that gets cooled. Simple

Water Cooled Engine.. Water Cools the engine. = Heavier. Expensive. Effective. Reliable.
Oil Cooled... Engine oil cools the engine = Cheap. Adds Less Weight. Reliable.

There you go.

Cheers!
VJ

**salman97** · 10-24-2018, 01:16 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Hi folks.
Something unfortunate happened with me today. I lost my user manual which has all the service coupons and everything. Contacted my dealer when I found out about it and they categorically refused to issue a new one saying there's only one manual per vehicle. I then contacted the TVS customer care and the guy acknowledged the request. He informed me that a new one would be available at the dealer soon, but I honestly don't have any confidence in his statements..
Can somebody please advise me on what to do? What are the consequences of not possessing the manual? More than the free services I'm worried that the warranty period will be void without the manual.

**Aswinlogi** · 10-24-2018, 03:37 PM

Re: TVS Apache RTR 200 4V Ownership Experience

Originally posted by deepakmadhivanan View Post

Actually it’s in the transmission’s output shaft. It’s much reliable than having it on wheels. But the down side is, even a sprocket ratio change will affect the accuracy of the speedo reading.

Yeah sprocket change will have impact on roads too!
Either in Acceleration or in Topspeeds of the bike indeed.

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