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  • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

    Originally posted by arya809 View Post
    You couldn't be farther from the truth, do you even own a Dominar? .

    Usually I dont respond to posts by authors with whom I have no business with, but since you have used so much time in typing out, I would reply in concise terms.

    1) The agreement with KTM and Bajaj was in essence of technolgy transfer, in line with their earlier agreement with Kawasaki, whose KB series engine was used as a development for the 150-180-220 gen pulsars, the difference there was apart from the first gen 150/180 there was development in the sense of the inclusion of disc brakes, twin spark, multimap cdi/carb etc. The current liquid gen pulsars apart from the no of spark plugs are near identical to the dukes, hence a knockoff, no developement no new tech just lazy rebranding by Bajaj.

    2) Please dont justify why people would go for a Duke or a Bajaj, the reality seems that you could not afford a Duke and have been telling yourself that the Dominar is superior which is not

    3) the Dominars fuel tank side panels, engine cowl, are made of fiber and you have the gall to compare with the karizma which admittingly with its less power had only its head light assembly in full cowl. You are wrong to say that the Dominar has less fiber than the older Karizma.

    4) In light of the original question the poster was comparing an air cooled motor ( xpulse ) and liquid cooled ( dominar) pray tell that you do know which one is more simpler to handle and repair? and more so look at the previous posts in this very thread, worn wires, leaking gaskets et all.

    5) Counter steering in gravel? pass the blunt bro and refer to point no 4.

    6) I judge a product as it is and not worship it, moreso since you are a historian look at my posts at the Pulsar 150 thread, needless to say that I have owned used modified and sold a fair no of Bajaj products to confidently say that the new gens and newer products have fallen in quality, namely ad hoc measures and poor quality control.

    So please get your head out of the garbage can and thought that has plagued a lot of Bajaj owners; who blindly belive that the product is superior because it is made by an indian company.

    And of course my RE 650 shares space with my other bikes its a pity people like you have to rely on one bike.

    Tell me again how it is to be poor? sometimes I forget and at times I have to wrangle in forums just to get a taste.

    There will be no further communication
    Last edited by Samarth 619; 05-20-2020, 10:58 PM. Reason: removed personal attack references.

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    • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

      Originally posted by arya809 View Post
      PLEASE stop comparing xpulse with Dominar, Hero is still using the 90's technology in engine and chassis, that is also the reason I sold my ZMR.
      I'm definitely not comparing a 400cc to 200cc.

      All I wanted to know is how good the bike is going to be if I'm using it as a Pulsar 150.

      None of the reviews on YouTube has much to talk about suspension on Dominar 400. I mean they don't talk about it clearly or either they skip at all.

      All I wanted to know.

      1) How the suspension is?

      2) What the service costs are? And what are the intervals?

      3) What is the mileage? (I don't mean the bike has to be a splendor) Whether it is above 30(city) for any eco friendly user in the forum. Because I've ridden a Duke 200 so efficiently in the city that it delivered me 40~

      I know you can't believe me but that is what the avg.fe said on the dash. I believe it is accurate.

      Most importantly, Will the price be justified if I spend 80k more rather than buying a Xpulse.

      Price is as far okay. Not really a concern.

      I'll hit the showroom during stock clearance and I'll also save alot on insurance by handing to a party I choose. So that I can minimise the price gap.

      All I want is a list of expenses that I have to bare from owners and just a word on how good the bike is for city.

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      • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

        Originally posted by Manan View Post
        Usually I dont respond to posts by authors with whom I have no business with, but since you have used so much time in typing out an idiotic cringe inducing fan rave I would reply in concise terms.
        I am not gonna stoop to your level. You are EXCESSIVELY VIOLENT, I am pretty sure you would have used a SWORD if I was in front of you! Try MEDITATION, relax your mind and search for happiness and meaning of life.

        All your replies are nothing but hate messages, displaying your Immaturity, Regression, Projection, Denial and Fixation.

        I genuinely laughed when I saw your CHILDISH "ThErE wIlL bE nO fUrThEr CoMmUnIcAtIoN"! Thanks for that.

        YOU owned Bajaj's earlier motorcycles so now you are vehemently against Bajaj products. You won't believe me BUT I WAS LIKE YOU before I matured, I used to hate Bajaj like anything and even swore an oath to myself never to buy any Bajaj. But I had to choose Dominar because it was the logical answer to my specific requirements. I am poor in terms of garage SPACE so had to sell older motorcycles and cars.


        @millenniumbiker

        Since you absoluted love your old pulsar, I was specifically pointing you towards Dominar. Had you been a Honda user then you would have been accustomed to light-weight handling and butter smooth engine, THEN I wouldn't have suggested you to buy a Dominar.

        "Using it as Pular"? I didn't understand it fully, but I am assuming you mean you wish to use your future motorcycle like a Commuter? If so, just look at it this way, when karizma was launched in 2003, everyone was like it's too powerful for commuting, whereas nowadays it's called underpowered! Even in other developing nations, beginners use 250cc and above as their first learner motorcycle. So, Dominar might feel powerful for commuting but certainly not heavy or cumbersome. Also, powerful commuters will become a norm in the upcoming future. Say you buy the Xpulse now, you won't feel confident about it 5 years in the future when every other guy commutes on a 30+ bhp race-oriented motorcycle.
        While commuting, Dominar provides feather-light clutch lever action, smooth gear-shifts, breezy handling, sharp braking. Also, it's easy to ride at low rpm's compared to other powerful bikes like Duke, apache 310 etc. You can easily ride at around 4000 rpm's and keep it varying in the same gear all the way to the redline.

        Suspension is not too soft but not rock-hard either. Compared to R15, KTM RC etc, it's softer with lower spring rate and low rebound dampening. But it's not as soft as average 160cc motorcycles. If you brake well in advance and navigate slowly in potholes then you won't have a problem, just don't expect to ride it full speed across pothole ridden road without vibrating your whole bones and joints!

        I just had my first free service before the lockdown so can't comment on it. But it will never be as cheap as Hero, that's for sure. Roughly speaking, you will have to spend double the amount of money on Dominar's servicing as compared to Xpulse.

        Mileage isn't good, it's even lower than Duke 200 judging by your figures. (I could be slightly off) Dominar 400 will go at the most 35 kms in 1 liter while riding at mid rpm's on highway. I don't think anybody will get more than 28 kmpl inside city limits.

        P.S. One nagging problem in city riding: You can't ride it at low rpm's, below 3000. If you release the clutch at around 2500, the engine will knock and shut off within a fraction of a second. It happened with me during the 1st month of ownership, after that I got accustomed to avoid riding below 3500 rpm at all. Dominar has got the same Duke 390's engine with 12:1 compression ratio. Engines with lower compression ratio can easily ride at low rpm's and vice-versa.
        It's not a major problem per se, just remember to rev it a little before releasing the clutch while in sluggish traffic and riding in 2nd gear.

        Price: Every owner will tell you the same thing:- Dominar 400 is a value for money in terms of power, package and quality.
        Not that it matters to me, but Dominar isn't an attention grabber. Nobody will turn their head in public because it looks like any other 160cc naked bike.
        Last edited by arya809; 05-16-2020, 12:57 PM.

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        • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

          Originally posted by Manan View Post
          Usually I dont respond to posts by authors with whom I have no business with, but since you have used so much time in typing out an idiotic cringe inducing fan rave I would reply in concise terms.

          1) The agreement with KTM and Bajaj was in essence of technolgy transfer, in line with their earlier agreement with Kawasaki, whose KB series engine was used as a development for the 150-180-220 gen pulsars, the difference there was apart from the first gen 150/180 there was development in the sense of the inclusion of disc brakes, twin spark, multimap cdi/carb etc. The current liquid gen pulsars apart from the no of spark plugs are near identical to the dukes, hence a knockoff, no developement no new tech just lazy rebranding by Bajaj.

          2) Please dont use your fargile ego to justify why people would go for a Duke or a Bajaj, the reality seems that you could not afford a Duke and have been telling yourself that the Dominar is superior which is not

          3) the Dominars fuel tank side panels, engine cowl, are made of fiber and you have the gall to compare with the karizma which admittingly with its less power had only its head light assembly in full cowl. Either you are smoking crack or blind to say that the Dominar has less fiber than the older Karizma.

          4) In light of the original question the poster was comparing an air cooled motor ( xpulse ) and liquid cooled ( dominar) pray tell that you do know which one is more simpler to handle and repair? and more so look at the previous posts in this very thread, worn wires, leaking gaskets et all.

          5) Counter steering in gravel? pass the blunt bro and refer to point no 4.

          6) Please unlike you and your lot I judge a product as it is and not worship it like a brain dead idiot, moreso since you are a historian look at my posts at the Pulsar 150 thread, needless to say that I have owned used modified and sold a fair no of Bajaj products to confidently say that the new gens and newer products have fallen in quality, namely ad hoc measures and poor quality control.

          So please get your head out of the garbage can and thought that has plagued a lot of Bajaj owners; who blindly belive that the product is superior because it is made by an indian company.

          And of course my RE 650 shares space with my other bikes its a pity people like you have to rely on one bike.

          Tell me again how it is to be poor? sometimes I forget and at times I have to wrangle in forums just to get a taste.

          There will be no further communication
          Learn to be a bit polite man, there's no need to be rude. It's a public forum, everyone has a right to post their opinions, you could have responded in a civilized way or just ignored the post.
          Peace

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          • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

            Originally posted by yashasvi View Post
            Learn to be a bit polite man, there's no need to be rude. It's a public forum, everyone has a right to post their opinions, you could have responded in a civilized way or just ignored the post.
            The guy had it coming, speaking ill about the motorcycle in a thread which is full of Dominar owners is shooting yourself in the foot! I am not doubting the guy but I have seen many guys who pretend to own a motorcycle of a specific brand and go on to rant about that motorcycle and then later i get to know that he/she never owned it and is talking nonsense about the brand.

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            • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

              [MENTION=81076]Abhishekilke[/MENTION]

              Guys like him can't control themselves, after all they do have an excuse of Bajaj making pathetic bikes in the past. Only mature people can truly appreciate and understand the Dominar. There are hundreds of immature kids on Youtube giving bad reviews for Dominar while wearing flip-flops and without helmets. I don't think a potential buyer for Dominar will give any weightage to such reviews and rants.

              P.S. I just came home after riding 30 kms in the city, lockdown ended recently and I had lots of urgent stuff to buy. I was again surprised by the ease of commuting on a Dominar, I feel immensely confident in the handling & braking capabilities.

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              • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                Can we please stick to the topic and not indulge in personal fights or brand bashing?

                The posts will be deleted and the user penalised accordingly. We don't want to, please don't force!
                (Been There Done That) x 3.25

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                • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                  Hey
                  I would like to increase the braking and feedback from my stock brakes on my dominar 2018. So I have heard a lot about changing brake fluids, changing brake pads to sintered or ceramic etc but can’t decide which I should do. Since the brakes are spongy, I’d like to increase the bite. And the brake system is completely air free. I want some opinions on which products I should do.

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                  • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                    Originally posted by vaisakhanoop View Post
                    Hey
                    I would like to increase the braking and feedback from my stock brakes on my dominar 2018. So I have heard a lot about changing brake fluids, changing brake pads to sintered or ceramic etc but can’t decide which I should do. Since the brakes are spongy, I’d like to increase the bite. And the brake system is completely air free. I want some opinions on which products I should do.
                    Brake oil is good already dot4.
                    Use good brand like Bosch etc
                    Upgrade to sintered or semi sintered pads.
                    Change major kit of master cylinder if needed.

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                    • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                      Originally posted by arya809 View Post
                      [MENTION=81076]Abhishekilke[/MENTION]

                      P.S. I just came home after riding 30 kms in the city, lockdown ended recently and I had lots of urgent stuff to buy. I was again surprised by the ease of commuting on a Dominar, I feel immensely confident in the handling & braking capabilities.
                      I just can't wait to hop in my dominar. Suggest, Some tips to convince parents please. 😁

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                      • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                        Originally posted by vaisakhanoop View Post
                        Hey
                        I would like to increase the braking and feedback from my stock brakes on my dominar 2018. So I have heard a lot about changing brake fluids, changing brake pads to sintered or ceramic etc but can’t decide which I should do. Since the brakes are spongy, I’d like to increase the bite. And the brake system is completely air free. I want some opinions on which products I should do.
                        Reverse bleed the lines using DOT4 Fluid to get rid of sponginess and increase feedback, contrary to popular belif DOT5 reduces feedback, if you have enough funds you can even give synthetic DOT4 a shot, Xado makes them in India.

                        Change pads to more abrasive ones to increase bite.

                        The MC's on the older Dominar's didnt offer much to talk home about, but first try the above and contemplate changing MC after you've exhausted all options.

                        Dominar comes with braided lines from factory.

                        Cheers,
                        A.P.
                        Motorcycling Experience:
                        2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                        2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                        2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                        2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                        2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                        2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                        The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                        Adios Comrades!
                        A.P. 2018

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                        • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                          Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

                          Change pads to more abrasive ones to increase bite.
                          The MC's on the older Dominar's didnt offer much to talk home about, but first try the above and contemplate changing MC after you've exhausted all options.

                          Which brake pads do you suggest and If please suggest me one online shop too.

                          And is there any difference between the master cylinder on the 2019 ug model compared to previous one??

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                          • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                            Originally posted by millenniumbiker View Post
                            I just can't wait to hop in my dominar. Suggest, Some tips to convince parents please. [emoji16]
                            Have gone through this phase[emoji16] Dominar was my first bike. I promised my parents to take care of the bike as if it were my baby. I kept my promise and my parents never complained.

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                            • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                              Originally posted by vaisakhanoop View Post
                              Hey
                              I would like to increase the braking and feedback from my stock brakes on my dominar 2018. So I have heard a lot about changing brake fluids, changing brake pads to sintered or ceramic etc but can’t decide which I should do. Since the brakes are spongy, I’d like to increase the bite. And the brake system is completely air free. I want some opinions on which products I should do.
                              Sintered break pads wear out your rotors faster than organic ones. Also, not all rotors are meant to be used with sintered pads. So make sure that your rotors are strong enough.

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                              • Re: Bajaj Dominar 400 Ownership Experience Thread

                                While on the topic of SINTERED PADS, I have a query. With sintered pads, their will be increased bite and aggressive contact between pads and rotor. Doesn't it mean ABS will have a hard time adjusting to it? It's my wild guess that ABS works perfectly with the stock OEM pads, whereas with sintered pads, ABS will result in increased braking distance because of increased skids? Obviously I am making wild assumptions, I am looking for replies from experts.

                                Because if sintered pads don't create a problem with ABS then I will be tempted to upgrade.

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                                Originally posted by millenniumbiker View Post
                                I just can't wait to hop in my dominar. Suggest, Some tips to convince parents please. ������
                                I don't know whether you are seriously asking for pointers or just expressing your feelings, regardless I will provide some points to consider.

                                I bought it with my own money so no permission was required. If I had to convince my parents, I will consider the following points:

                                1. Value for money: Dominar is providing a comfortable yet powerful machine at 2 lakhs ex-showroom. It's even cheaper than Apache 310, bmw g310, cb300r, all of which have lower power and torque. Also, it's price bracket is justifiable in itself, slightly costly than gixxer 250SF but cheaper than above mentioned ones, tell your parents why should you settle for low powered, less comfortable options in this price range.

                                2. Low cost of servicing and wide availability of SVC across India. Compared to other premium motorcycles in this range, Dominar parts are comparatively cheaper.

                                3. Safety: Tell them nowadays traffic is highly unpredictable and your older motorcycles don't feel safe anymore. Dominar's handling and braking is much safer and confidence inspiring. It doesn't even look that aggressive compared to faired sports-oriented ones, maybe they will believe it!

                                4. Commuting: Again, there is not a single motorcycle below 4 lakhs price range which provides =>40bhp alongwith comfortable commuting, flat pillion seat is an icing on the cake. (Not being a fanboy, I researched thoroughly and IF there was a better option in terms of power with comfort, I myself would have bought that instead).

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