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  • #2656
    Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

    Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
    If the fuse repeatedly keeps blowing off, it's better not to re-fuse it again. It's getting shorted because of the motor is shorting the circuit. And abhi, if you wiggle it with a stick, it won't run, unless there is a good fuse providing power to the fan to run. You can use stick if the fan is stuck and is getting constant power, if no power is provided to the fan, no matter what you stick inside, it won't run.

    Get your fan checked, the connectors checked and then replace if necessary. Fan has always been a weakspot for the Dukes.

    Cheers!
    VJ
    Thanks Abhi and VJ!
    Took it to svc yesterday, and they replaced the fan. Got everything done under warranty so didn't have to pay anything though. I asked the advisor on what happened to the old one and he was like the fan was stuck. Not sure what or how that happened.

    Cheers,
    Aswin


    Duke 390 (2018 - Present)
    Honda CB Unicorn (2011 - 2017)

    When I'm riding with the helmet on, I'm invisible and people just deal with me as the guy on the bike :)

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    • #2657
      Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

      Originally posted by abhiiceman View Post
      Can anybody else confirm the same
      Actually, it's totally possible. When the coolant is brand new, it works as expected and helps maintain the temperature a wee bit lesser. Once the electrolytes gets used up, due to repeated cooling and heating process, slowly the the coolant loses its efficiency to cool as effectively as it should be, in which case it's recommended to replace the coolant.

      Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
      Update: My 390 has run for 8K kms, procured in Sep'18 (not much of mileage I know ), checked the coolant a month back and it wasn't in the greatest shape. Planned on removing and flushing the coolant, looked for alternatives to the Inugel supplied at the SVC. Opted for the coolant from Honda (premix used for the CBR twins) and 30+ heat cycles and a month later, the temp gauge does not go above the half way point and the fan doesn't kick in that often. Bike seems to be running a bit cooler. Riding conditions are peak traffic, typical Chennai office commute via T. Nagar (9kms one way), and I generally do not get the chance to slot it above 3rd gear during the entirety of my commute. Trying to lower the temp further in hopes of extending seals and engine life.
      The Duke is very temperamental in that it lets the user know of its dislike such as overheating and what not when used in B2B traffic. The engine parts go through more wear and tear and what not. Now that your coolant is holding up well. You can also try Motul Motocool, Engine Ice, as alternatives to Honda Radiator Liquid. Though the 250R has one of the best cooling systems out there, just fantastic.

      Cheers!
      VJ
      Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
      The girl said, 'NO!'


      And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


      THE END

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      • #2658
        Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

        Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
        Actually.....

        just fantastic.

        Cheers!
        VJ
        Yep, looked at the offering from Motul and Engine Ice as well, the Honda Radiator Liquid retails for a measly Rs. 254/Litre and seemed to trump the others on VFM. Used to own a CBR before, rode for 80K+ kms and cannot complain, the bike just got a bit boring with it's reliability! FOr the 390, I plan to keep an eye on the coolant and flush/replace as many times as possible. Also looking at aftermarket radiator fans for more cooling efficiency. Will keep this thread posted.

        EDIT: I've noticed Engine Ice leaves behind more residue than the Honda premix when I'd used it on my CBR. It did the job of keeping the bike cooler, but with the result of a lot of gunk when flushed. Not sure if it's uniform across, but I'd only used it once so it might be an exception.
        Last edited by Jon Niranjan Paul; 07-05-2019, 02:16 PM.

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        • #2659
          Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

          Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
          Yep, looked at the offering from Motul and Engine Ice as well, the Honda Radiator Liquid retails for a measly Rs. 254/Litre and seemed to trump the others on VFM. Used to own a CBR before, rode for 80K+ kms and cannot complain, the bike just got a bit boring with it's reliability! FOr the 390, I plan to keep an eye on the coolant and flush/replace as many times as possible. Also looking at aftermarket radiator fans for more cooling efficiency. Will keep this thread posted.

          EDIT: I've noticed Engine Ice leaves behind more residue than the Honda premix when I'd used it on my CBR. It did the job of keeping the bike cooler, but with the result of a lot of gunk when flushed. Not sure if it's uniform across, but I'd only used it once so it might be an exception.
          I am surprised to know about the residue formation using Engine Ice, it being a hybrid coolant. I'd like to know more about this. The replacement fan being SPAL that is being done by many abroad for the 390. Almost most throw the stock fan out and install the SPAL fan, which is more reliable and runs very quiet. You can give a try searching for SPAL Fan Duke 390 and read more about it.

          Cheers!
          VJ
          Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
          The girl said, 'NO!'


          And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


          THE END

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          • #2660
            Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

            Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
            Excellent find, sriathiyan. Actually, I guess it "might" be related to stator coil upgradation. From what I can see, this must be revised stator wire routing. If you see the back side of the old stator cover you will see that trapezoidal kinda protrusion in the earlier modes used to have the stator wire exit point and routed towards the exit at at the top of the cover.

            Perhaps KTM has worked on the stator issues and they've I guess, moved the winding exit to clockwise to 3 o'clock in the new ones from the 6 o'clock position in the old ones.

            Cheers!
            VJ

            came back to this thread after a long time . now i understand why i had to replace the stator coil twice in span of 8 months.. this explains. 2017 model screws up very badly

            i lost confidence to take my duke for long ride..
            also the same old coolant level problem starting to appear again inspite of fixing all the gasket and oil seal fix up last year .. i totally forgot coolant issue for few months and now had to top up almost 250ml of coolant.. need to keep an eye on oil colour and smell, and frothing .

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            • #2661
              Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

              Originally posted by senn6k View Post
              came back to this thread after a long time . now i understand why i had to replace the stator coil twice in span of 8 months.. this explains. 2017 model screws up very badly

              i lost confidence to take my duke for long ride..
              also the same old coolant level problem starting to appear again inspite of fixing all the gasket and oil seal fix up last year .. i totally forgot coolant issue for few months and now had to top up almost 250ml of coolant.. need to keep an eye on oil colour and smell, and frothing .
              Has KTM done a good job in listening to these issues and fixing them in the current models?
              Has the 2019 model (updated screen and all) ironed out all these kinks?
              #Shadowfax Apache RTR 180 ABS - 2014 - 2019
              #NightWing Yamaha R3 - 2019 - Current

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              • #2662
                Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                Originally posted by Jon Niranjan Paul View Post
                Update: My 390 has run for 8K kms, procured in Sep'18 (not much of mileage I know ), checked the coolant a month back and it wasn't in the greatest shape. Planned on removing and flushing the coolant, looked for alternatives to the Inugel supplied at the SVC. Opted for the coolant from Honda (premix used for the CBR twins) and 30+ heat cycles and a month later, the temp gauge does not go above the half way point and the fan doesn't kick in that often. Bike seems to be running a bit cooler. Riding conditions are peak traffic, typical Chennai office commute via T. Nagar (9kms one way), and I generally do not get the chance to slot it above 3rd gear during the entirety of my commute.

                Trying to lower the temp further in hopes of extending seals and engine life.
                what do you mean man.. that the coolant from honda is keeping the temp gauge at half way point on a 390 in chennai weather/traffic !?! do you mean the half way point on the lower segment of the temp gauge ? so just around 4-5 bars ??
                how many minutes is the bike ridden ? iirc on a 390, the fan usually kicks in at around 9 min (i know it depends on the temp not time) of riding in stop go traffic typically.

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                • #2663
                  Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                  Originally posted by Raman Swaminathan View Post
                  Has KTM done a good job in listening to these issues and fixing them in the current models?
                  Has the 2019 model (updated screen and all) ironed out all these kinks?
                  Yep, these issues are not at all there in my bike I have clocked almost 1700 kms now and even the software issues like clock running faster/slower is also not there.

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                  • #2664
                    Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                    Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post
                    Yep, these issues are not at all there in my bike I have clocked almost 1700 kms now and even the software issues like clock running faster/slower is also not there.
                    Amazing! I know its always better to have the best product available to everyone but at least the company listens to the feedback and/or is cognizant of the issues.
                    #Shadowfax Apache RTR 180 ABS - 2014 - 2019
                    #NightWing Yamaha R3 - 2019 - Current

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                    • #2665
                      Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                      Originally posted by s1d View Post
                      what do you mean man.. that the coolant from honda is keeping the temp gauge at half way point on a 390 in chennai weather/traffic !?! do you mean the half way point on the lower segment of the temp gauge ? so just around 4-5 bars ??
                      how many minutes is the bike ridden ? iirc on a 390, the fan usually kicks in at around 9 min (i know it depends on the temp not time) of riding in stop go traffic typically.
                      Yep! Like I said, the temp gauge stays at the half way point (4 bars i think), it's been 5 weeks now, with the same observation. Fan kicks in a bit late than with the stock inugel coolant. Haven't timed it though, but it's observed to be about 20% later than usual. external temp in the range of 35~42 degrees Celsius.

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                      • #2666
                        Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                        Hi,

                        I am running my KTM with the panels removed and I never thought that this is a drain pipe. There is some part attached to it before the pipe ends.

                        So if its a simple drain pipe, can I remove the part in the below pic and just leave the pipe as it is?

                        ll help to save off some weight from the bike. So far I am able to save around 5-7 kgs from the bike.

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                        Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post
                        HI All,

                        So went to KTM showroom to get it checked, the issue comes especially if you live in a very dusty area because the water drain hose is kept in very weird position.
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                        In the picture the green line represents drain hose from factory , and blue line represents how it was fixed by showroom.
                        The drain hose ends up in the hole near the radiator.

                        Regards,
                        Mohan

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                        • #2667
                          Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                          Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post
                          Why get to the underlying hardware, when you can simple remove the ABS fuse and you have a full fledged disabled ABS.



                          Good luck. In case you intend to get the Duke or R3, the first thing I'd recommend you is to get yourself 1 inch seat foam installed, keeping in mind the height of oneself in mind. It's easy to tippy toe on the Dukes. But, the foam helps in comforting the ride much, much better and butt sores.

                          Cheers!
                          VJ
                          Hey B7!
                          Quick question, this foam you mention, I notice on the Duke website that we have a 1 inch rider seat foam as a powerpart. Are you referring to this one?
                          If not can you please suggest where I can source this from?

                          Thanks!
                          #Shadowfax Apache RTR 180 ABS - 2014 - 2019
                          #NightWing Yamaha R3 - 2019 - Current

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                          • #2668
                            Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                            Originally posted by Raman Swaminathan View Post
                            Hey B7!
                            Quick question, this foam you mention, I notice on the Duke website that we have a 1 inch rider seat foam as a powerpart. Are you referring to this one?
                            If not can you please suggest where I can source this from?

                            Thanks!
                            No. I am not referring to the PowerPart. Those are ridiculously expensive for what they offer, and so, by all means KTM PowerParts are. Your best bet is a nearest seat modification shop and they can help you out. You can either use a sofa foam or normal styrofoam. They will guide you. These are far more practical, versatile and cost effective than a PP.

                            Cheers!
                            VJ
                            Once upon a time, a guy asked a girl 'Will you marry me?'
                            The girl said, 'NO!'


                            And the guy lived happily ever after and rode motorcycles and watched sport on a big screen TV, went fishing and surfing, and played golf a lot, and drank beer and scotch and had tons of money in the bank and left the toilet seat up and farted whenever he wanted.


                            THE END

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                            • #2669
                              Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                              Originally posted by avnsiva View Post
                              Hi,

                              I am running my KTM with the panels removed and I never thought that this is a drain pipe. There is some part attached to it before the pipe ends.

                              So if its a simple drain pipe, can I remove the part in the below pic and just leave the pipe as it is?

                              ll help to save off some weight from the bike. So far I am able to save around 5-7 kgs from the bike.


                              I'm not sure why you wanna remove drain pipe, it has purpose to makes sure no water goes onto your engine or electronics, If you want to really see weight savings and don't mind spending boat load of money the best way to do it is carbon fiber wheels and body panels.

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                              • #2670
                                Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

                                Originally posted by Dandamudi Mohan Krishna View Post
                                I'm not sure why you wanna remove drain pipe, it has purpose to makes sure no water goes onto your engine or electronics, If you want to really see weight savings and don't mind spending boat load of money the best way to do it is carbon fiber wheels and body panels.
                                He is referring to the black box where the drain pipe ends, not the pipe itself.
                                #Shadowfax Apache RTR 180 ABS - 2014 - 2019
                                #NightWing Yamaha R3 - 2019 - Current

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