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**faysal_khan** · 12-01-2018, 01:17 AM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

It can be connected via your accessories connector which is easier or you can connect it to your battery. The one good aspect about the ACC PORT is that it is 10 AMPS fused and it works with the igntion, so you need not worry about it being constantly on. On the other hand, some USB ports have parasitic drain, though not much, unless used with an accessory, but it still draws some power, this is solved by plugging it in the ACC port.

Secondly, you can get switched USB ports that have a dedicated switch in them that is directly connected to the battery for bikes without ACC port and helps user to switch on or off depending on the need, which I'd prefer.

Cheers!
VJ

Is this ACC port available in dominar? I want to do same in dominar. Connect charger. If yes where this port is located? Thank you.

**sujithbvm** · 12-01-2018, 12:05 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

It can be connected via your accessories connector which is easier or you can connect it to your battery. The one good aspect about the ACC PORT is that it is 10 AMPS fused and it works with the igntion, so you need not worry about it being constantly on. On the other hand, some USB ports have parasitic drain, though not much, unless used with an accessory, but it still draws some power, this is solved by plugging it in the ACC port.

Secondly, you can get switched USB ports that have a dedicated switch in them that is directly connected to the battery for bikes without ACC port and helps user to switch on or off depending on the need, which I'd prefer.

Cheers!
VJ

Wow, that is some really cool and detailed information

.. Thank you. I think the AUX lights are also made to connect to this ACC port which I am seeing on Dukes on the the roads nowadays commonly.

One more thing is yesterday I crossed 600 kms and the bike is always ready to fly. Yesterday also when i talked with my dealer he is telling me not to cross 70 kmph even though you can go up to 6.5 on the RPM and according to that you can at least hit 110 kmph if you have any open roads.

I am really confused now regarding this..Now the good part of this I am getting 100 km at 3.9 liters mileage.. haha. I hope this is a good number considering the bike is new as new vehicles tend to give less mileage in starting days.

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Originally posted by sdkiran View Post

If you have patience and ready to wait, u can check AliExpress for screen protectors. Then use some basic rubbing / scratch remover compound or very fine grit sandpaper (soak them in water for sometime) to remove the scratches before applying the screen guard.

Can you please share the link as when I searched, I am only getting other accessories for Duke 390.

Also if anyone has any product link which they are using and is good, please suggest the same.

Thank you..

**sdkiran** · 12-01-2018, 12:24 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Here you go
6H Motorcycle TPU Speedometer Instrument Dashboard Screen Protector Soft Gauge Monitor Film for KTM DUKE 390 2017 2018 Motorbike

https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/ZrasqyR

**B7ACKTHORN** · 12-01-2018, 11:03 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sujithbvm View Post

Wow, that is some really cool and detailed information

.. Thank you. I think the AUX lights are also made to connect to this ACC port which I am seeing on Dukes on the the roads nowadays commonly.

One more thing is yesterday I crossed 600 kms and the bike is always ready to fly. Yesterday also when i talked with my dealer he is telling me not to cross 70 kmph even though you can go up to 6.5 on the RPM and according to that you can at least hit 110 kmph if you have any open roads.

I am really confused now regarding this..Now the good part of this I am getting 100 km at 3.9 liters mileage.. haha. I hope this is a good number considering the bike is new as new vehicles tend to give less mileage in starting days.

You can safely reach 100 KMPH on the bike as long as the throttle is not gunned to the red-line frequently. As long as you are making sure the RPMs are varied, there is nothing wrong with the running in. Enjoy the ride.

Cheers!
VJ

**sujithbvm** · 12-02-2018, 01:04 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sdkiran View Post

Here you go
6H Motorcycle TPU Speedometer Instrument Dashboard Screen Protector Soft Gauge Monitor Film for KTM DUKE 390 2017 2018 Motorbike
https://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/ZrasqyR

Thanks bro.. Are you too using the same one?

**sdkiran** · 12-02-2018, 01:06 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sujithbvm View Post

Thanks bro.. Are you too using the same one?

Yes.. I am using the similar one, but from different seller.

**sujithbvm** · 12-02-2018, 01:11 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

You can safely reach 100 KMPH on the bike as long as the throttle is not gunned to the red-line frequently. As long as you are making sure the RPMs are varied, there is nothing wrong with the running in. Enjoy the ride.

Cheers!
VJ

Cool..even i want i can't gun the throttle to red line.. Thanks to bangalore traffic and vehicles coming in from all directions 🙁🙁

But for now 100 kmph is decent speed when I can go faster.

Do you warmup/idle the engine for a minute or so in the morning for the first cold start?

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Also about shutting off the engine while fan is spinning . Is it safe, to so in the long run to shut off the engine when the fan is running.

The problem is as, soon as I'm about to get down the bike or reach the parking, the fans starts spinning and then I have to wait for it to shutdown.

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The reason is the people in my apartment don't like me idling the bike for so long either in the morning for cold start or for waiting for the fan to shut down..😐

**s1d** · 12-02-2018, 01:49 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sujithbvm View Post

Do you warmup/idle the engine for a minute or so in the morning for the first cold start?
Also about shutting off the engine while fan is spinning . Is it safe, to so in the long run to shut off the engine when the fan is running.

First coming to the warm up.. you don't need to let it idle for long periods (just a waste of fuel). Instead what you can do is, start the bike up, wear you helmet etc.. (should take about 30 sec to idle, right?) then just slot into 1st and move slowly and ride the first km or so slowly before you decide to gun it. just don't lug the bike i.e. riding at a slow speed in a higher gear.
we aren't living in sub freezing temps to require long idles (which is required to get the oil up to temp and flowing).
and hey, the current 390 isn't as noisy as the under belly exhaust ktm's !! infact it's very quiet

coming to the shut down, i mostly try to wait for the fan to shut off (i know its annoying) but sometimes have shut it off even with the fan running. i am not sure if it would do any harm in the long run.. i assume it shouldn't be an issue (if it was so important, am sure ktm would have mentioned that in the manual).
but in traffic, if the fan is running then let it just run and try to avoid turning it off.. but if you are parking it for the day (i.e. for a long time, i guess it should be ok)

**B7ACKTHORN** · 12-02-2018, 11:55 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sujithbvm View Post

Cool..even i want i can't gun the throttle to red line.. Thanks to bangalore traffic and vehicles coming in from all directions ��

But for now 100 kmph is decent speed when I can go faster.
Do you warmup/idle the engine for a minute or so in the morning for the first cold start?
Also about shutting off the engine while fan is spinning . Is it safe, to so in the long run to shut off the engine when the fan is running. The problem is as, soon as I'm about to get down the bike or reach the parking, the fans starts spinning and then I have to wait for it to shutdown. The reason is the people in my apartment don't like me idling the bike for so long either in the morning for cold start or for waiting for the fan to shut down..��

Good set of questions. First off, yes idling for a minute is helpful, every morning or cold during cold starts, instead of gunning it on the go. Allows the oil to circulate, helps engine warm up better. Shutting off the ignition when the fan is running is not at all detrimental to the engine, once the engine stops, the fan stops so there is no point if the fan is switched off or running, the bike will eventually cool down. Try not to stop every now and then in traffic if the fan runs, this would over heat the engine. But if it's time to park er in home, and her fan is spinning, it's safe to turn off as usual.

Cheers!
VJ

**kiran2508** · 12-03-2018, 12:10 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sujithbvm View Post

Do you warmup/idle the engine for a minute or so in the morning for the first cold start?

Originally posted by s1d View Post

you don't need to let it idle for long periods (just a waste of fuel)

Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

First off, yes idling for a minute is helpful, every morning or cold during cold starts, instead of gunning it on the go.

As a rule of thumb for all 4 stroke vehicles it's suggested to warm up the engine for oil circulation for 1-2min and not to high-rev the bike for atleast 1st 1-2kms since compared to the 2 stroke oil was mixed with fuel and for 4 strokes oil needs to be pumped/splashed from the oil sump, the same would suggested in all manuals so that engine attains it's operating temperature.

Also to let the condensation to evaporate that has been build up in the engine/exhaust sometimes seen as thin white smoke during cold start up, if this condensation is present during operation it could hydro-lock the engine.

Also, idling the bike before turning off is not to cool the engine down, but to allow the excess oil and coolant which was present during operation to flow back to the sump at idling.
The same way how a trubo-diesel cars are idled for 1-2mins before turning off to let the oil drain out off the turbo and not to let it cool, same way here but for a different purpose.

**B7ACKTHORN** · 12-03-2018, 03:53 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post

As a rule of thumb for all 4 stroke vehicles it's suggested to warm up the engine for oil circulation for 1-2min and not to high-rev the bike for atleast 1st 1-2kms since compared to the 2 stroke oil was mixed with fuel and for 4 strokes oil needs to be pumped/splashed from the oil sump, the same would suggested in all manuals so that engine attains it's operating temperature.

Also to let the condensation to evaporate that has been build up in the engine/exhaust sometimes seen as thin white smoke during cold start up, if this condensation is present during operation it could hydro-lock the engine.

Also, idling the bike before turning off is not to cool the engine down, but to allow the excess oil and coolant which was present during operation to flow back to the sump at idling.
The same way how a trubo-diesel cars are idled for 1-2mins before turning off to let the oil drain out off the turbo and not to let it cool, same way here but for a different purpose.

Absolutely. Though, I'd like to help you out with a few of the points you've mentioned. Your first part is right, there is a certain amount of time that a given engine takes before the oil is thoroughly worked inside an engine via its oil pump(s). The efficient the pump and the with the right grade of oil, the oil reaches head and piston faster which is where start up induced wear occurs. Giving the engine some time to warm up, meaning letting the engine idle would allow the pump to work effectively and help oil reach faster to the critical parts and hence reduced wear.

Secondly, the condensation wouldn't cause hydrolock per se. In fact, hydrolock is something that is caused when extreme ingestion of non-compressible medium like water which would mean a bent con rod and bent valves. Basically severe engine damage. The reason why they say not to idle for less than optimal temperature is, water vapor too is produced inside the combustion chamber during the combustion process. This water won't cause hydrolock per se, but can cause severe RUSTING inside the valve face and even inside combustion chamber and the exhaust. That's the reason it's wise to let an engine run to its operating temperature in case of non-usage vehicles and then turned off, so that water vapor during combustion are exhausted out of the chamber and the heat vaporizes them.

Thirdly, regarding turbos, you've got part of it right, and part of it turned down, doing the exact opposite. The reason turbo-charged engines are "required" to follow the idle method is to make sure the TURBOS are FED ENOUGH OIL before turning them off. Turbos are lubricated by engine oil. Remember turbos are spinning upwards of 80,000 RPM. When you shut off the engine just like that, the turbo is still spinning at a rate upwards of of 18k to 20k RPM before coming to halt, even though the engine is switched off. Now, when the engine is off, the oil supply to turbo is cut off instantly, so effectively the turbo is running dry for whatever time it's spinning post engine off before it comes to a halt. And it's during this time the turbo bearings are staved off of VITAL ENGINE OIL. This would mean, reduced turbo bearing life and hence manufacturers recommend idling before turning off is to make sure the turbo speed comes down to no-boost level which would mean the turbo comparatively is spinning less faster, would come to halt at a faster rate after the engine is switched off.

Hope it helps!

Cheers!
VJ

**sujithbvm** · 12-03-2018, 05:53 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sdkiran View Post

Yes.. I am using the similar one, but from different seller.

Cool. thanks bro

**s1d** · 12-03-2018, 05:53 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post

As a rule of thumb for all 4 stroke vehicles it's suggested to warm up the engine for oil circulation for 1-2min and not to high-rev the bike for atleast 1st 1-2kms since compared to the 2 stroke oil was mixed with fuel and for 4 strokes oil needs to be pumped/splashed from the oil sump, the same would suggested in all manuals so that engine attains it's operating temperature.

2 strokes also have engine oil apart from the 2t premix in the fuel.
follow similar idling to what i mentioned for 2 strokes also.

Also to let the condensation to evaporate that has been build up in the engine/exhaust sometimes seen as thin white smoke during cold start up, if this condensation is present during operation it could hydro-lock the engine.

condensation will evaporate away since you are going to ride the bike (and not just idle and shut it off). this ain't going to cause any hydro lock.

Also, idling the bike before turning off is not to cool the engine down, but to allow the excess oil and coolant which was present during operation to flow back to the sump at idling.

idling will not 'flow back' the oil to the sump.. as long as the engine is running, the oil pump is running and oil keeps circulating (maybe at a lower rate/pressure). once you shut the bike off, the oil will anyway drain back in to the sump.

The same way how a trubo-diesel cars are idled for 1-2mins before turning off to let the oil drain out off the turbo and not to let it cool, same way here but for a different purpose.
already explained by fellow member about the turbo

my comments in bold above.
as i said earlier, 30 secs is ok (1 min if you can.. but anything more is a waste of fuel imo) along with taking the first 1-2km slowly to warm it up. if you live in freezing temps, you would require to idle much longer.

**sujithbvm** · 12-03-2018, 06:00 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by s1d View Post

First coming to the warm up.. you don't need to let it idle for long periods (just a waste of fuel). Instead what you can do is, start the bike up, wear you helmet etc.. (should take about 30 sec to idle, right?) then just slot into 1st and move slowly and ride the first km or so slowly before you decide to gun it. just don't lug the bike i.e. riding at a slow speed in a higher gear.
we aren't living in sub freezing temps to require long idles (which is required to get the oil up to temp and flowing).
and hey, the current 390 isn't as noisy as the under belly exhaust ktm's !! infact it's very quiet

coming to the shut down, i mostly try to wait for the fan to shut off (i know its annoying) but sometimes have shut it off even with the fan running. i am not sure if it would do any harm in the long run.. i assume it shouldn't be an issue (if it was so important, am sure ktm would have mentioned that in the manual).
but in traffic, if the fan is running then let it just run and try to avoid turning it off.. but if you are parking it for the day (i.e. for a long time, i guess it should be ok)

Yes, i agree with you completely. The new duke is way refined in the noise department compared to the old one. Neighbors are neighbors, they will have something or the other to complain all the time ...

Ya in traffic i never turn it off and sometimes if i have the patience, I will wait for the fan to switch off otherwise I will just turn it off.

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Originally posted by B7ACKTHORN View Post

Good set of questions. First off, yes idling for a minute is helpful, every morning or cold during cold starts, instead of gunning it on the go. Allows the oil to circulate, helps engine warm up better. Shutting off the ignition when the fan is running is not at all detrimental to the engine, once the engine stops, the fan stops so there is no point if the fan is switched off or running, the bike will eventually cool down. Try not to stop every now and then in traffic if the fan runs, this would over heat the engine. But if it's time to park er in home, and her fan is spinning, it's safe to turn off as usual.

Cheers!
VJ

Ya, I do the same, depending on my patience level

.. haha.. Sometimes i wait in my parking for the fan to switch off or otherwise will switch it off irrespective the fan is running is not

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Originally posted by kiran2508 View Post

As a rule of thumb for all 4 stroke vehicles it's suggested to warm up the engine for oil circulation for 1-2min and not to high-rev the bike for atleast 1st 1-2kms since compared to the 2 stroke oil was mixed with fuel and for 4 strokes oil needs to be pumped/splashed from the oil sump, the same would suggested in all manuals so that engine attains it's operating temperature.

Also to let the condensation to evaporate that has been build up in the engine/exhaust sometimes seen as thin white smoke during cold start up, if this condensation is present during operation it could hydro-lock the engine.

Also, idling the bike before turning off is not to cool the engine down, but to allow the excess oil and coolant which was present during operation to flow back to the sump at idling.
The same way how a trubo-diesel cars are idled for 1-2mins before turning off to let the oil drain out off the turbo and not to let it cool, same way here but for a different purpose.

Wow ,, call me an idiot but i never knew that why you run the engine for a minute or so before shutting it off. :P
Now i know. I sometimes wonder, what i would have done without you guys and xbhp

Couple of updates from my side. I am nearing the 750 km mark and today morning i saw my first TFT glitch.
The clock on the TFT was almost 15 minutes late than the actual time. I didn't notice it before so dont know when it started.

My doubt is when the month changed to December, it might have started. Its a just wild guess..

Secondly got a call from KTM service reminding me about the upcoming 1st service, so cheers to that

Anything specific i should take care during my first service. Mostly I am taking my bike to KTM indiranagar service center and plan to stay with the bike when the servicing happens. Any other recommended good service centers in Bangalore ?

Also should I carry my own oil which I am planning to get from amazon India. I had read sometime back that KTM guys use Motul itself and recommend the same. But I don't remember the grade of oil now.

Thank you

**s1d** · 12-03-2018, 06:20 PM

Re: 2017 Duke 390 Owners Reviews and Experiences

Originally posted by sujithbvm View Post

Also should I carry my own oil which I am planning to get from amazon India. I had read sometime back that KTM guys use Motul itself and recommend the same. But I don't remember the grade of oil now.

yes, the ktm svc uses the same motul 7100 (10w50 or 20w50 whatever is in stock). reason why some of us buy the oil ourselves is to save a couple 100 bucks. svc will sell it at the mrp, while on amazon you could easily save 100-150rs per litre depending on offers.

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