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**Drifty** · 06-12-2011, 09:28 PM

Originally posted by rajeshmushtang View Post

quickest Indian is even more quiker....ive installed K&N fillter
my quirey is will it suck water coz itz pouring like hell and i love splashing water....as the filter is visible from....side

In rains,there is no way you can save the filter from getting wet.It will get choked cause of the water and wetness on it.Remove the K&N filter and put back the stock air filter.K&N without upjetting will just give a loud sound,not performance.In fact,it will bring down the performance cause the A/F ratio will be seriously messed up.And as whiteknight said,you will need a main jet bigger than 125.There are very less chances that you will find one,bigger than 125.Better way,take the Pulsar's 110 main jet & then resize it to 135/140.Dont resize the stock jet of your bike,finding a new one might be a problem then.

Originally posted by whiteknight View Post

but take my advice the K&N will not give you power gain it will just make more sound like a bassy exhaust of a cruiser. i installed the K&N and removed it and got back to stock.

+1

**abhishekch** · 06-12-2011, 10:23 PM

using k&n without upjetting dose nt give any performance effect just the sound get increased .it sound like a tin can. and hurt ears. i installed it some days before and removed it another day. i find stock filter is best. 1900rs ka chuna lag gaya.should have gone for hids besides of k &n . if any body want to purchase it contact me .model is rc1060 pre oiled.

**rajeshmushtang** · 06-12-2011, 10:58 PM

Originally posted by whiteknight View Post

only thing you can do it lessen the water going in is to remove the air filter pipe from the air filter box and fit the K&N on it. but it will still get wet. which K&N air filter have you installed on your RTR. IF RC-1060 then fit it on the pipe and If RC-1100 then try to get it fitted inside the airfilter box. but take my advice the K&N will not give you power gain it will just make more sound like a bassy exhaust of a cruiser. i installed the K&N and removed it and got back to stock.

The Apache is a high revving machine it has a shorter stroke and big bore. so if you want real performance then try the K&N on a longer stroke bike{if you want to compare then the Apache RTR180 has bigger bore than the Pulsar 200} thats how the RTR works. when you install the K&N on the apache you can't take the bike upto the higher RPM's the bike feels stressed. Keep the bikes engine stock and if you want to go for modding go for full mods like free flow exhaust, bigger carb. etc.

but since you already bought the K&N use it. go for upjetting. it might help you and get the Air-fuel-mixture right. RTR's main jet is of 125 try to get a bigger one

ya i dont feel any increase in performance i have just fitted directly to carb.....no upjetting and the sound is like a chain of tin can got a struck in a kittens neck

and how can i upjet it any help guyz

**rajeshmushtang** · 06-12-2011, 11:00 PM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

In rains,there is no way you can save the filter from getting wet.It will get choked cause of the water and wetness on it.Remove the K&N filter and put back the stock air filter.K&N without upjetting will just give a loud sound,not performance.In fact,it will bring down the performance cause the A/F ratio will be seriously messed up.And as whiteknight said,you will need a main jet bigger than 125.There are very less chances that you will find one,bigger than 125.Better way,take the Pulsar's 110 main jet & then resize it to 135/140.Dont resize the stock jet of your bike,finding a new one might be a problem then.

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thankx @drifty i am gonna remove it but can u explain how to upjet...???

**rajeshmushtang** · 06-12-2011, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by abhishekch View Post

using k&n without upjetting dose nt give any performance effect just the sound get increased .it sound like a tin can. and hurt ears. i installed it some days before and removed it another day. i find stock filter is best. 1900rs ka chuna lag gaya.should have gone for hids besides of k &n . if any body want to purchase it contact me .model is rc1060 pre oiled.

@abhishekch thankx dude....but i just bght it for free of cost just to check the performance so saved 1900 bucks

**sujithbvm** · 06-12-2011, 11:50 PM

@ Whiteknight

Thanks a lot bro..will definately try to convice thje SVC manager to allow the first service to be done in front of me ....

And correct me if I am wrong they put TVS TRU4 PREMIUM 4T 20W40 oil only I guess as the bike is new

And I am thinking of replacing the air filter as well as the bike is new....What would be the cost of the oil and the new air filter?

**Drifty** · 06-13-2011, 12:04 AM

Originally posted by rajeshmushtang View Post

thankx @drifty i am gonna remove it but can u explain how to upjet...???

First of all,use multi quotes option please!!!
Its a trial & error method.Stock jet is 125 so increase by 5 or 10,say 135.Get a 0.10mm drill bit & drill the main jet to the required size i.e.135.You will need a drill machine for that.You can get it done from any workshop too.After jetting,adjust the air fuel ratio and see that you dont get any jerks or popping sound from the exhaust while accelerating.The throttle response must be smoother and crisper.

**111diablo111** · 06-13-2011, 12:33 AM

Originally posted by abhishekch View Post

using k&n without upjetting dose nt give any performance effect just the sound get increased .it sound like a tin can. and hurt ears. i installed it some days before and removed it another day. i find stock filter is best. 1900rs ka chuna lag gaya.should have gone for hids besides of k &n . if any body want to purchase it contact me .model is rc1060 pre oiled.

abhi..will this K&N filter fit in my bike too?? is this universal filters for FI bikes as well?? if it'll fit ZMR then don't worry about your filter you got a buyer

**lijok** · 06-13-2011, 01:28 AM

I reverted the exhaust and head light to stock due to unbearable cop menace... just a FYI

**Maverickk** · 06-13-2011, 01:53 AM

Hey guys, soon i'll be giving my bike for 2nd service.I wanted to know what all things(oil change,oil filter change,etc) i have to get done this time?

**Garry_Menace** · 06-13-2011, 03:06 AM

Originally posted by lijok View Post

I reverted the exhaust and head light to stock due to unbearable cop menace... just a FYI

Damn!! Thats the main reason why people refrain from going for FFE's

Originally posted by 111diablo111 View Post

abhi..will this K&N filter fit in my bike too?? is this universal filters for FI bikes as well?? if it'll fit ZMR then don't worry about your filter you got a buyer

Yes, it will

The filters are universal. Just check if RC1060 is enough for ZMR or not. IMO, it is.

**Drifty** · 06-13-2011, 09:09 AM

Originally posted by lijok View Post

I reverted the exhaust and head light to stock due to unbearable cop menace... just a FYI

Now thats very dissappointing bro!!!

BTW What is the cost of the clip on handle bar end weight?Do they sell it as single piece or we have to buy both LHS& RHS?

**whiteknight** · 06-13-2011, 11:54 AM

Originally posted by rajeshmushtang View Post

ya i dont feel any increase in performance i have just fitted directly to carb.....no upjetting and the sound is like a chain of tin can got a struck in a kittens neck

and how can i upjet it any help guyz

Originally posted by sujithbvm View Post

@ Whiteknight

Thanks a lot bro..will definately try to convice thje SVC manager to allow the first service to be done in front of me ....

And correct me if I am wrong they put TVS TRU4 PREMIUM 4T 20W40 oil only I guess as the bike is new

And I am thinking of replacing the air filter as well as the bike is new....What would be the cost of the oil and the new air filter?

no they dont care about the bike even if it is brand new. the guys at the spares shop give the mech the Semi-synthetic oil which the TVS has recently devolped. 10w-30 semisyntetic is not the oil for the apache before 2000km. you have to make them pour the 20w-40.

The oil might cost about Rs240-295. oil filter doesn't need to be changed as the bike is brand new. you can just get it cleaned

**whiteknight** · 06-13-2011, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by abhishekch View Post

using k&n without upjetting dose nt give any performance effect just the sound get increased .it sound like a tin can. and hurt ears. i installed it some days before and removed it another day. i find stock filter is best. 1900rs ka chuna lag gaya.should have gone for hids besides of k &n . if any body want to purchase it contact me .model is rc1060 pre oiled.

bro it is not a waste of money it still can work. take the air filter box and remove the pipe which is attached to the carb. the pipe suprresses the air flow upto a small extent and the rider can bear the sound easily. when i first got it installed the fool who did it just fitted it right on the carb. that really sounded like a tin can. after few days the TVS mech fixed it on the air filter pipe. after that the bass kept on going and i too enjoyed all the bass and grunt all the way to 7000rpm.

never did upjetting on the bike which ulitmately resulted in knocking and stuff. i talked to a motorcross racer mech. he said he had jets upto 200+ size. i said i dont have that much fuel. i guess if you want bigger jet. retro scooters of bajaj used to have big jets about 140. try to check on that. if you can get one it might get easy.

the main jet of the RTR180 which is 125 cannot be purchased from the TVS spare parts. Because no one orders one

**whiteknight** · 06-13-2011, 12:15 PM

Originally posted by Drifty View Post

Now thats very dissappointing bro!!!

BTW What is the cost of the clip on handle bar end weight?Do they sell it as single piece or we have to buy both LHS& RHS?

Dont know about the price but once i had an accident LHS one got little bent. so they sent the whole handle bar to get repaired. it cost me around 1800 something. i hope that both were brand new.

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