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**abhishekch** · 07-04-2011, 07:34 PM

guys that miss firing problem solved it take 2 hr to svc for finding out the reason for those phat phat sound. thank god their was wego free camp was going on at svc so some senior engg were their .first the local svc mech serviced the bike i done with bill but when i ask about why he is not able to solve this miss firing he told this is nothing . he just tuned the carb and give it to me but still the sound was their.
i felt sad and start to leave i wear my helmet and a senior engg was passing by and he ask me how was the service .
i told him about the problem he immediately took action and take the bike to garage ones again . i was watching thru glass window .they done every thing spark plug change carb change tank cleaning but they were not able to find the problem then one senior engg find the real culprit it was second intake suction valve.
they changed it under warranty and i am happy now .

the new one

the old one

from some days thread has not got some pics here are some

new way to use k&n.

**karkai6** · 07-04-2011, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by lijok View Post

Guys, yet again I'm facing the issue I had in Jan this year... though I hope its not that extensive... significant drop in engine oil level, oil in combustion chamber ( spark plug looks like its been dipped in oil), and white smoke in the exhaust. Hardly 6k kms with the new cylinder kit, properly run-in, oil changes at regular intervals... I guess taking too much care of your bike is also not good...
Any ideas/suggestions on why this is recurring? The root cause must be something else right? Maybe a busted oil pump? But that was checked at every engine service, where the mech would loosen the nut of the oil pipe going into the cylinder and oil would always gush out... This is just so so sad...

And I thought white smoke from the exhaust indicates a lean mixture or something... Dont leaking piston rings give out a blueish smoke from the exhaust??? How s the bike's power??? Do you feel a drop in power or everything except the Oil loss and smoke looking fine???

**lijok** · 07-04-2011, 09:06 PM

Originally posted by abhishekch View Post

guys that miss firing problem solved it take 2 hr to svc for finding out the reason for those phat phat sound. thank god their was wego free camp was going on at svc so some senior engg were their .first the local svc mech serviced the bike i done with bill but when i ask about why he is not able to solve this miss firing he told this is nothing . he just tuned the carb and give it to me but still the sound was their.
i felt sad and start to leave i wear my helmet and a senior engg was passing by and he ask me how was the service .
i told him about the problem he immediately took action and take the bike to garage ones again . i was watching thru glass window .they done every thing spark plug change carb change tank cleaning but they were not able to find the problem then one senior engg find the real culprit it was second intake suction valve.
they changed it under warranty and i am happy now .

This is something worth checking out I guess... hmmm. Thanks buddy...

Originally posted by karkai6 View Post

And I thought white smoke from the exhaust indicates a lean mixture or something... Dont leaking piston rings give out a blueish smoke from the exhaust??? How s the bike's power??? Do you feel a drop in power or everything except the Oil loss and smoke looking fine???

I'm not really riding the bike now. Only in case of emergency, for short distances. Waiting to get it fixed before riding again. I did not notice any significant drop in power earlier... hmm and smoke is white... not sure about any blue color..

**Drifty** · 07-04-2011, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by abhishekch View Post

i told him about the problem he immediately took action and take the bike to garage ones again . i was watching thru glass window .they done every thing spark plug change carb change tank cleaning but they were not able to find the problem then one senior engg find the real culprit it was second intake suction valve.
they changed it under warranty

Yes,if the air intake valve is seriously messed up then the bike misfires most of the times.Good that you got that part changed free of cost.
And about K&N..ehhh..nice idea!

**shivank** · 07-04-2011, 11:18 PM

Guys,Is thing for true? Do accessories like these are available for the RTR?

Here

TVS Apache Racing DNA Edition Review

**pranav_salieri** · 07-05-2011, 12:16 AM

i told those svc idiots to check my carb.and still i am getting pathetic mileage...about max 32-33 kmpl even if i ride sanely! i heard even with hard ripping apache gives about 40 KMPL.this is dissappointing the svc's really suck!

**Garry_Menace** · 07-05-2011, 07:27 AM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

i told those svc idiots to check my carb.and still i am getting pathetic mileage...about max 32-33 kmpl even if i ride sanely! i heard even with hard ripping apache gives about 40 KMPL.this is dissappointing the svc's really suck!

NO way true, buddy. But, you should be getting around that if you ride sanely. Anyways, insist on getting the carb checked strongly because mostly they don't touch carb easily when the bike is somehow new. And, did you ever fiddled with the AFR? What do you want in the carb to be checked?

**pranav_salieri** · 07-05-2011, 06:09 PM

@garry- my bike is about 6k kms old no i havent fiddled with the AFR settings.i want the AFR to checked in the carb. okay if i ride like this 55-60 most of the times and in 80s(max) [talking about cities] with shifting gears most of the time below 4k rpm how much should it give.i know your not a calculator and all

but since you are experinced i am asking.

**Garry_Menace** · 07-05-2011, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

@garry- my bike is about 6k kms old no i havent fiddled with the AFR settings.i want the AFR to checked in the carb. okay if i ride like this 55-60 most of the times and in 80s(max) [talking about cities] with shifting gears most of the time below 4k rpm how much should it give.i know your not a calculator and all

but since you are experinced i am asking.

Tell you what?

My bike hasn't even touched 6K mark right now

Though it should've been, but I had my speedo(hence the odo too) not working for around 800 kms. Its somewhere around 5800 right now

Anyways, that way, you should be getting around 42 according to me. I ride it as mixture of sane and occasional ripping and do ride 100+ while going to college as there's a good 30km stretch of NH1 in the way and I get around 38-40

(touchwood). Well its also because I've tuned it a bit leaner, not quite lean, can be said as optimally lean.

Anyways, If you never fiddled with the AFR and neither your bike is quite old than how can the AFR be the culpirt? I think its coz of some other reason.

**pranav_salieri** · 07-05-2011, 09:24 PM

garry- i think my local mech must have fiddled with it. and you mean to say after the bike goes like 40000-50000 kms it will start giving 25-30 kmpl???

**pranav_salieri** · 07-05-2011, 09:27 PM

garry- and before giving the bike to my local mech i used to get 48-51 kmpl even with sane and ripping.

**Garry_Menace** · 07-06-2011, 12:41 AM

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

garry- i think my local mech must have fiddled with it. and you mean to say after the bike goes like 40000-50000 kms it will start giving 25-30 kmpl???

No, by "neither your bike is quite old" means that the carb n other parts must have been opened at times and hence, the fiddling

Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post

garry- and before giving the bike to my local mech i used to get 48-51 kmpl even with sane and ripping.

48-51?

Oh you're talking about 160 and I was talking about 180

Btw, maybe he fiddled with it. try getting it re=tuned. There can be other factors also which can affect mileage.

**rajeshmushtang** · 07-06-2011, 01:33 AM

AND WHAT ARE THE Consequence ONE HAS TO FACE for redlineing and shifting gears at 11 or 12rpm

**whiteknight** · 07-06-2011, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by shivank View Post

Guys,Is thing for true? Do accessories like these are available for the RTR?

Here

TVS Apache Racing DNA Edition Review

These accessories are not available at any TVS service outlet or anything. TVS is a performance based Company. These mods are not at all performance made. These bike shown in the review is a bike made by some private dealer. Rookie mistakes can be seen all over the bike. i mean its an unfinished product. If you look closely the plate which says "TVS Racing Dna unleashed" if you ever go to the TVS website check the spelling of DNA. here it is "Dna" and on TVS website it is "DNA". now the mods. i can say these are cheap mods and doesnt make any sense of being real. The Apache RTR is a racing bike not a crusier so why does it need a projector setup and all the bling bling on the bike LED lighting or so. it is all worthless and not even performance based. Fitting a front tire on the rear is not TVS does it. everything should be proper. its not a finished product. exhaust is also hand made. the sticker was placed randomly on it.

Conclusion: There are no such accessories available at TVS. But one can get it from a Private Dealer.

**Abhii46** · 07-06-2011, 03:35 PM

Hi Guys,

Just completed 2years on my bike(3rd July). Bike had covered 29700kms till that date. Wanted to cover 30k by that time but got sick last week and so couldnt go on a ride for which I was planning( Yelagiri ).
Feedback:
1. Awesome acceleration.
2. Didnt faced any major problem with the bike.
3. Got disc pads changed thrice and disc plate once for both the brakes.
4. Got chain set changed once at 20k.
5. Many people complained about the tyres. I didnt faced such problems. Tyres performed well. Though I had two accidents, but both of the times I was on full sand covered area (1st accident - thank to Volvo driver, 2nd accident - thank to a FZ owner, one minor accident ( thank to myself ). Still on stock tyres but gonna change them now.
6. Got Joel's FFE for the bike. Using it for past few months.
7. Some loss in power, maybe the mixture is not proper.

Overall, a great bike. Going to get some engine upgrades also from Joel.

Some pics:

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