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**prateekm** · 06-27-2011, 09:54 PM

Thanks for the quick reply

Guys, I've done some research on the Apache 180 ABS, and I could see only the following negative points.

1) Engine vibes at over 100 kmph.

Will changing to semi-synthetic/synthetic reduce the vibes? If yes, which oil do you guys suggest?

2) Bad for touring.

Is it because the seat is hard? If yes, changing the foam in the seat should fix it, right?

**Rtrlover83** · 06-27-2011, 10:07 PM

Originally posted by xionite View Post

if you ask me... i think this is just a dealer who's added on these parts in order to sell the bike at a premium.

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does this look like a TVS idea?

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look at the quality of the weld on the exhaust pipe.

and that's a seriously oversize tyre for that rim.
not something that TVS would opt for.

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seriously? racing edition grips changed? no changes to the levers?

.

I was so excited about these goodies, but now i too think these are not from TVS.

Ok, let's wait again for something from TVS like a performance upgrade kit which would be road legal

**Puneet1** · 06-27-2011, 11:02 PM

Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post

I was so excited about these goodies, but now i too think these are not from TVS.

Ok, let's wait again for something from TVS like a performance upgrade kit which would be road legal

tvs is always super slow in launching anything be it bikes or other stuff ! they did show a performance kitted rtr 160 around 3 years back which was supposed to launch "very soon" , then they showed the kit on a rtr 180 on the auto expo 2010 again with launch "very soon"

. wonder when their soon will come

**Rtrlover83** · 06-27-2011, 11:57 PM

Originally posted by Puneet1 View Post

tvs is always super slow in launching anything be it bikes or other stuff ! they did show a performance kitted rtr 160 around 3 years back which was supposed to launch "very soon" , then they showed the kit on a rtr 180 on the auto expo 2010 again with launch "very soon"

. wonder when their soon will come

That's a fact

And yes, i'am waiting for that very kit you've mentioned that produces around 3.50 bhp more!

Hoping that the muffler would be road legal though

**rajeshmushtang** · 06-28-2011, 12:02 AM

Originally posted by kantu View Post

Saw this link today TVS Apache Racing DNA Edition Review have any one checked with tvs dealers ? or this is this something that was there from before only.

dude i dont think this is official product from tvs

**Garry_Menace** · 06-28-2011, 02:27 AM

Originally posted by prateekm View Post

Thanks for the quick reply

Guys, I've done some research on the Apache 180 ABS, and I could see only the following negative points.

1) Engine vibes at over 100 kmph.

Will changing to semi-synthetic/synthetic reduce the vibes? If yes, which oil do you guys suggest?

2) Bad for touring.

Is it because the seat is hard? If yes, changing the foam in the seat should fix it, right?

1.) The VIBES are even below 100 also. They start from 4.5K mark in Tachometer (RPM). I am not saying that you shouldn't go for it, I myself have RTR180 and I'm not et'all regretting getting it. It was just to make you aware of truth because I believe in unbiased advising.

And, let me clear the air that the vibrations are not unbearable. You'll get used to of it. When I get the power and the amount of acceleration from my machine, I can easily ignore the vibes as a negative point

2.) NO. Its not et'all bad for touring. If you don't have any backache problems ALREADY, then it will not hurt you. You can read my triplogs (link provided in my signature text) and I tell you that I had no problem because of riding posture of the bike. And, its not just me, many people tour on RTR including LijoK and Shivank here (sorry, that are the only name came in my mind right now about touring on RTR).

Originally posted by xionite View Post

these accesories are NOT from TVS...

these are mods that can be done locally.

the projector is a simple retrofit projector.

and that silencer is available locally for 2000 rupees. (it is NOT a tuned FFE)

.

+1

**prateekm** · 06-28-2011, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

1.) The VIBES are even below 100 also. They start from 4.5K mark in Tachometer (RPM). I am not saying that you shouldn't go for it, I myself have RTR180 and I'm not et'all regretting getting it. It was just to make you aware of truth because I believe in unbiased advising.

And, let me clear the air that the vibrations are not unbearable. You'll get used to of it. When I get the power and the amount of acceleration from my machine, I can easily ignore the vibes as a negative point

2.) NO. Its not et'all bad for touring. If you don't have any backache problems ALREADY, then it will not hurt you. You can read my triplogs (link provided in my signature text) and I tell you that I had no problem because of riding posture of the bike. And, its not just me, many people tour on RTR including LijoK and Shivank here (sorry, that are the only name came in my mind right now about touring on RTR).

Thanks for the honest review. Is there a list of the optional accessories I can get with Apache 180? I would like to have a projector headlamp, will the dealer do it? (I don't want the warranty to get void).

**Garry_Menace** · 06-28-2011, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by prateekm View Post

Thanks for the honest review. Is there a list of the optional accessories I can get with Apache 180? I would like to have a projector headlamp, will the dealer do it? (I don't want the warranty to get void).

Mention not buddy. We're here to help each other only

About the projector assembly, yeah it can be done as TVS itself released the range of accessories including the projector headlamp according to the news/rumours but I myself personally don't believe that its a TVS product as long as I don't hear anything on it from TVS itself. Though, even I wish its TVS product

**Mirhawk** · 06-28-2011, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

Mention not buddy. We're here to help each other only

About the projector assembly, yeah it can be done as TVS itself released the range of accessories including the projector headlamp according to the news/rumours but I myself personally don't believe that its a TVS product as long as I don't hear anything on it from TVS itself. Though, even I wish its TVS product

Have mailed to TVS to ask if the modifications are genuine or not. Have also asked them about the security system issue, that if it will void My warranty. Had asked local SVC , He confirmed over the phone that as long as there are no wire cuts, there are no issues of warranty. But i wanted something to hold as proof so mailed them.

**bhadoriabtp** · 06-28-2011, 08:30 PM

I want bajaj pulser 220 silencer and hid head light to my white 180cc apache.can silencer might be changed to pulser 220 and head light might be changed to hid.please advise me any place in gurgaon or new delhi.

**Garry_Menace** · 06-28-2011, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by bhadoriabtp View Post

I want bajaj pulser 220 silencer and hid head light to my white 180cc apache.can silencer might be changed to pulser 220 and head light might be changed to hid.please advise me any place in gurgaon or new delhi.

Why do you want P220's exhaust on RTR? RTR's exhaust is better than that in terms of sound and also suited for RTR (obviously coz its designed for RTR only, and the Pulsar one for Pulsar itself). And, I'm not sure but I think the weight of P220's exhaust is also at higher side compared to RTR's exhaust. So, ultimately, you're gonna lose power, lose the bassy sound and I don't think even it looks better. I am not saying it looks bad but it also don't look better either.

**abhishekch** · 06-28-2011, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by bhadoriabtp View Post

I want bajaj pulser 220 silencer and hid head light to my white 180cc apache.can silencer might be changed to pulser 220 and head light might be changed to hid.please advise me any place in gurgaon or new delhi.

garry is right it will look oversize on rtr .and you can put hid. for that need dc conversion unless battery low indicator will start to glow

. mine has never glown since purchase.

**kantu** · 06-28-2011, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by rajeshmushtang View Post

dude i dont think this is official product from tvs

Yep that s what i wanted to confirm about. That original author is not responding as well , so i i put it here to get info on this as there were speculations of pro kits being launched from tvs. i was also confused

**Zippo** · 06-29-2011, 12:14 AM

Originally posted by prateekm View Post

Thanks for the quick reply

Guys, I've done some research on the Apache 180 ABS, and I could see only the following negative points.

1) Engine vibes at over 100 kmph.

Will changing to semi-synthetic/synthetic reduce the vibes? If yes, which oil do you guys suggest?

2) Bad for touring.

Is it because the seat is hard? If yes, changing the foam in the seat should fix it, right?

Hard seats are actually good for touring against popular perception that you need soft seats for touring. The hard seats do not get compressed much as opposed to soft foam, letting air circulate better, and cooling your bottom. This results in lesser saddle soreness! And about posture, I agree with whatever Garry has said. In fact, I prefer this riding posture. Only problem, the balls get compressed more when compared to the straight-sitting posture

.

Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post

1.) The VIBES are even below 100 also. They start from 4.5K mark in Tachometer (RPM). I am not saying that you shouldn't go for it, I myself have RTR180 and I'm not et'all regretting getting it. It was just to make you aware of truth because I believe in unbiased advising.

And, let me clear the air that the vibrations are not unbearable. You'll get used to of it. When I get the power and the amount of acceleration from my machine, I can easily ignore the vibes as a negative point

2.) NO. Its not et'all bad for touring. If you don't have any backache problems ALREADY, then it will not hurt you. You can read my triplogs (link provided in my signature text) and I tell you that I had no problem because of riding posture of the bike. And, its not just me, many people tour on RTR including LijoK and Shivank here (sorry, that are the only name came in my mind right now about touring on RTR).

+1

+1 Gary

**Garry_Menace** · 06-29-2011, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Zippo View Post

Hard seats are actually good for touring against popular perception that you need soft seats for touring. The hard seats do not get compressed much as opposed to soft foam, letting air circulate better, and cooling your bottom. This results in lesser saddle soreness! And about posture, I agree with whatever Garry has said. In fact, I prefer this riding posture. Only problem, the balls get compressed more when compared to the straight-sitting posture

.

+1 Gary

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