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  • Originally posted by harishmenace View Post
    This is due to the grade of oil being 15w50, Xw40 is perfect for the bike, however svc use 10w30.
    Thanks!

    Originally posted by Drifty View Post
    Thanks Makky!
    Man,you should have asked about the oil earlier!Pour nothing more than 10W40 or 20W40 oil of any brand in your bike.These grades of oil are more than enough for regular usage or for ripping purposes!Here is my review about the 15W50 oil.Switch to any 10W40 oil,Shell or Motul 10W40 will be best!
    Motul oil small review
    I wanted the SVC to pour Power 1 Racing of grade 10W40. They poured the other grade. Typical! Unnecessary expenditure! Anyway, I would drain it off once it feels rougher.
    Last edited by Makky; 12-23-2011, 04:58 PM.

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    • After changing to Castrol power one

      - revs freely
      - better shifting
      - smoother clutch
      - Less engine noise
      - Less heating


      Common myths

      - Will reduce vibes(X)
      - Better top end(X)i used to get a lot of "क्या कूद्छ यार साथी"
      - Improved Mileage(X)



      Whoever spreading false myths about the Mythical Synthetic oils should be put in Jail..... LOL

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      • The oil change is almost killing my bike. It won't rev like the way it used to. Vibration starts below 4000rpm! The feel of the RTR is nowhere near!
        Will drain the Power 1 Racing 10W50 asap!
        Power 1 was a lot better!

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        • Originally posted by Makky View Post
          The oil change is almost killing my bike. It won't rev like the way it used to. Vibration starts below 4000rpm! The feel of the RTR is nowhere near!
          Will drain the Power 1 Racing 10W50 asap!
          Power 1 was a lot better!
          Excuse me sir,
          I faced the same problem in my Pulsar 180, the bike resists to perform.
          Just out of curiosity, did you get this oil free from xbhp from the event that had taken place (Go to Ladakh Castrol Power One racing Contest)?? cz we suspect it to be duplicate and castrol is majorly at fault for this.
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          • Originally posted by Eshan-P180 View Post
            Excuse me sir,
            I faced the same problem in my Pulsar 180, the bike resists to perform.
            Just out of curiosity, did you get this oil free from xbhp from the event that had taken place (Go to Ladakh Castrol Power One racing Contest)?? cz we suspect it to be duplicate and castrol is majorly at fault for this.
            No, it isn't, Eshan! Well, I reckon, the grade xW50 is the requirement for Pulsars.

            Drained the Power 1 Racing 10W50 and filled the good old Power 1 15W40.

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            • please dont under estimate tru4 its a good engine oil . first tell me who has told w40 is mandatory for 180..... seriously want to know his name..
              company is not dumb who tell their svc to put tru4 10w30 in their flagship 180s what do you think company make more revenue by pouring their oil in to our machines at the time of service(just like dot3 stock) . company make more money by selling their machines not by oil .and the most important for a company is to sell products which make more revenue and goodwill for company. if tru 4 is that bad for their machine it will loose their customers by a great margine.
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              • Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
                please dont under estimate tru4 its a good engine oil . first tell me who has told w40 is mandatory for 180..... seriously want to know his name..
                company is not dumb who tell their svc to put tru4 10w30 in their flagship 180s what do you think company make more revenue by pouring their oil in to our machines at the time of service(just like dot3 stock) . company make more money by selling their machines not by oil .and the most important for a company is to sell products which make more revenue and goodwill for company. if tru 4 is that bad for their machine it will loose their customers by a great margine.
                The grades for discussion here were only W50 and W40. W30 was out of syllabus! Yes, 10W30 works good in the Apache. However, the quality of TVS isn't as good as Castrol.

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                • Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
                  please dont under estimate tru4 its a good engine oil . first tell me who has told w40 is mandatory for 180..... seriously want to know his name..
                  company is not dumb who tell their svc to put tru4 10w30 in their flagship 180s what do you think company make more revenue by pouring their oil in to our machines at the time of service(just like dot3 stock) . company make more money by selling their machines not by oil .and the most important for a company is to sell products which make more revenue and goodwill for company. if tru 4 is that bad for their machine it will loose their customers by a great margine.
                  Exactly the same question was asked by me, and unable to get/find the answer. Though later when I stressed my mind while checking out the manual again and again for it, this is all my mind got hit with:

                  See, the oil mentioned in Manuals is TVS TRU4, not mentioned as TVS TRU4 Premium. Just like we have Castrol P1 and Castrol P1 racing, TVS also has TRU4 and TRU4 Premium. Now the difference is that, TRU4 is 20w40 and TRU4 Premium is 10w30. (May be this is why my SVC attendant told me "bhaiya ji bees-chaalis to puraani technology hai... dus-tees nayi technology hai aur RTR koi puraani bike nahi hai jo aap usmein puraani technology ka tel daalne ki soch rahe ho") Moreover, TRU4 is Mineral and TRU4 Premium is SS. This point made me believe that I'm thinking it right way because the company won't recommend a SS oil for servicing as even we guys know Mineral oil should be used for initial 2500 kms. or atleast for running-in period.

                  Now, why do I (or I believe everybody else) say that xxW40 is better for RTRs? Because RTR engines have "rough" characteristics. I mean, they aren't as smooth as HH, Honda bikes which use 10w30. So if even Pulsars are using xxW50 then RTRs may be requiring more viscous oil than 10w30. And after thinking all this and having "N" no. of recommendations from here too, I tried the 20w40 Shell Advanced (Mineral) and found it good.

                  **phew** Very long post. Well, if I can type this much then I suppose you guys can read it too, coz its relatively easier to read a long post than typing.

                  P.S. Though I doubt if TVS has faced-out the TRU4 (the Mineral one). You can ask it from the TVS Officials and also inform us here :P
                  Last edited by Garry_Menace; 12-23-2011, 09:19 PM. Reason: Adding "P.S." statement :P
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                  • Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
                    One more RTR Tribal with JK17
                    Nice clicks Drifty... Envy you Mumabaikars
                    Hehe,you to own the same jacket,nice,JK-17 is solid bang for bucks!

                    Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
                    please dont under estimate tru4 its a good engine oil . first tell me who has told w40 is mandatory for 180..... seriously want to know his name..
                    company is not dumb who tell their svc to put tru4 10w30 in their flagship 180s what do you think company make more revenue by pouring their oil in to our machines at the time of service(just like dot3 stock) . company make more money by selling their machines not by oil .and the most important for a company is to sell products which make more revenue and goodwill for company. if tru 4 is that bad for their machine it will loose their customers by a great margine.
                    Actually its the other way around!
                    Originally posted by Garry_Menace View Post
                    Now, why do I (or I believe everybody else) say that xxW40 is better for RTRs? Because RTR engines have "rough" characteristics. I mean, they aren't as smooth as HH, Honda bikes which use 10w30. So if even Pulsars are using xxW50 then RTRs may be requiring more viscous oil than 10w30. And after thinking all this and having "N" no. of recommendations from here too, I tried the 20w40 Shell Advanced (Mineral) and found it good.
                    Exactly,the TVS 10W30 is best left for the ScootyPeps,wegos.Ours is a high revving engine which requires atleast SAE40 grade for regular usage along with some ripping sessions.If you use the bike more often for touring,then its better to stick to any W40 oil!The W30 will lose its viscosity earlier at high operating temperatures than the W40 oil.IMO,W40 grade is the most suitable grades for our RTRs.Remember,a more thicker oil will take more time to circulate around the engine mating parts and indirectly lead to more fuel consumption.We can notice how the bike lose its revviness with the W50 oil,take Makky's example.
                    I am sick of typing the same things about grades,viscosity so adding a few links for more useful information.
                    Oil Viscosity Explained
                    http://www.upmpg.com/tech_articles/motoroil_viscosity/

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                    • i too think tru4 is faced out, all they use is tru4p weather its a new bike or old.

                      Now what engine oil the new batch rtr's 2011 manual recommends. Any budy? .cus tru4p was launched in nov2010 .
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                      • Originally posted by abhishekch View Post
                        i too think tru4 is faced out, all they use is tru4p weather its a new bike or old.

                        Now what engine oil the new batch rtr's 2011 manual recommends. Any budy? .cus tru4p was launched in nov2010 .
                        The RTR's 2011 manual recommends Tvs tru4 Premium.
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                        • Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                          Hehe,you to own the same jacket,nice,JK-17 is solid bang for bucks!
                          Actually one of the first user of this Jacket.

                          Even I have used TVS Tru4 Premium since I got my bike. And I find it good enough.
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                          • Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post
                            The RTR's 2011 manual recommends Tvs tru4 Premium.
                            LMAO!! Can someone be THAT MUCH stupid?

                            A company that exports bikes to a number of countries, and shows its flagship models character as a techno advanced bike (introducing ABS, RTR being from the racetrack heritage) recommends a SS oil(relate this to SS <--> running-in) which is 10w30 grade oil (and this to the high-revving engine).
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                            • guys i am facing a big problem now.fuel is just vanishing from my bike.even when kept in the shade and when its slightly cold,is this happening because its below reserve or something wrong with my tank??i dont think anyone is stealing fuel because i have a lock.i always ride my bike in reserve only... i usually never fil more than 100 or 50 bucks(1.3L max).is it that i fill more than 5 literes the fuel wont evaporate??

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                              • Originally posted by pranav_salieri View Post
                                guys i am facing a big problem now.fuel is just vanishing from my bike.even when kept in the shade and when its slightly cold,is this happening because its below reserve or something wrong with my tank??i dont think anyone is stealing fuel because i have a lock.i always ride my bike in reserve only... i usually never fil more than 100 or 50 bucks(1.3L max).is it that i fill more than 5 literes the fuel wont evaporate??
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