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  • #10711
    mod help...

    i own a cbz xtreme ...
    i just want to know that can i fit the tvs apache rtr's engine under cowl aka engine cover on it...
    any other alternatives for it are welcomed...

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    • #10712
      Originally posted by geek-boy View Post
      Hey Guys!
      I have completed 11,000 km on my Apache RTR 180 and have no major complaints so far but recently my bike stalls when zipping through heavy traffic...how ever the issue is there is a loud 'Thud' sound emitted when it happens as if something hammered the engine from the inside..never happened before...is it normal?
      Sorry didn't get the issue. Is it like you are in mid traffic and after 'thud' sound the bike stalls?

      Originally posted by ginni.verma View Post
      i own a cbz xtreme ...
      i just want to know that can i fit the tvs apache rtr's engine under cowl aka engine cover on it...
      any other alternatives for it are welcomed...
      It won't, you have to cut it near the exhaust pipe area. Not a big issue, can be done with jugaad
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      • #10713
        Originally posted by saipranav View Post
        Valve clearance setting can be a probability, but since the bike is very smooth and the tappets are not making any kind of noise even after 18kms of ripping made me feel they are not the culprit...
        Do, you think i should still check them? Or go ahead with AFR tuning?
        You can go ahead with checking the tappet clearance.Sometimes,a richer A/F mixture makes the idle rpm unstable so make the mixture a bit leaner and see if the rpm comes down gradually.

        Originally posted by ayashkm View Post
        Hallo Dewey!
        Thanks for the elaborate description of steps and also the photo documents of the diassembled carburator. I have a few queries.

        1. Is it possible to adjust to adjust the float tang in order to increase the fuel height in float chamber?

        2. Is is possible to adjust the needle jet so as to make the AFR rich?

        3. Is it possible to adjust the needle of needle jet to make the AFr rich.

        Waiting for you response.
        AFAIK,you can only make the fuel rich/lean by changing the position of the jet needle.When you remove the jet needle from the piston valve,you can see there are 3 adjustment slots in the BS-29 carb jet needle.The clip if set at highest position will lean the mixture while if set at lowest position will make the mixture too rich.The factory set position is the middle slot.
        Adding a few pics of the jet needle..
        In this pic,the needle has 3 slots,the clip is set at the highest position which will make the mixture too lean.Hope you got it.



        D.I.Y-Valve clearance setting RTR180
        D.I.Y-RTR180 brake fluid replacing/brake bleeding
        D.I.Y-RTR180 brake pad replacing/cleaning
        Exploded view of Mikuni BS-29 carb

        A motorcycle functions entirely in accordance with the laws of reason, and a study of the art of motorcycle maintenance is really a miniature study of the art of rationality itself.

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        • #10714
          Update.
          Guy's I've been to the SVC today. Saw the new RTR's for real. IMO, they looked great People would go for the new RTR's for sure. The photos definitely not doing justice here.
          The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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          • #10715
            Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post
            Update.
            Guy's I've been to the SVC today. Saw the new RTR's for real. IMO, they looked great People would go for the new RTR's for sure. The photos definitely not doing justice here.
            Any idea about the price.
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            • #10716
              Originally posted by Rtrlover83 View Post
              Update.
              Guy's I've been to the SVC today. Saw the new RTR's for real. IMO, they looked great People would go for the new RTR's for sure. The photos definitely not doing justice here.
              Did you took any pics? Any idea about if we can have the headlights on our "classic" apaches?
              Apache RTR 180 2011 | Honda Activa 2010 | CBZ Xtreme 2010 (1 month) |Apache 160 FI 2009-2010
              Bajaj Kristal 2007-2011
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              • #10717
                Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post
                Did you took any pics? Any idea about if we can have the headlights on our "classic" apaches?
                +1 That is the only thing which in my bike looks incomplete or like missing something, If it is a direct fit and costs around 1k, I'll switch to it immediately.
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                • #10718
                  Originally posted by prateek2210 View Post
                  Sorry didn't get the issue. Is it like you are in mid traffic and after 'thud' sound the bike stalls?
                  Yes and no...the bike stalls with a loud thud...i've been using the bike for 2 years now and this thing recently started happening...i know the sound a bike makes when it stalls but in my case the sound is just too loud (as i said its like some one's hammering it from the inside)
                  "A brother might stab you in the back, a woman certainly will, but a bike will never let you down." ―Johnny Klebitz

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                  • #10719
                    Originally posted by geek-boy View Post
                    Yes and no...the bike stalls with a loud thud...i've been using the bike for 2 years now and this thing recently started happening...i know the sound a bike makes when it stalls but in my case the sound is just too loud (as i said its like some one's hammering it from the inside)

                    Are you sure it isnt the Engine Kill Switch loose contact? Is the sound similar to when you kill the engine?
                    It's always better to lose a second in life than to lose life in a second!

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                    • #10720
                      Originally posted by geek-boy View Post
                      Yes and no...the bike stalls with a loud thud...i've been using the bike for 2 years now and this thing recently started happening...i know the sound a bike makes when it stalls but in my case the sound is just too loud (as i said its like some one's hammering it from the inside)
                      Same happened with me bro does it happen frequently or only the bike is cold started
                      Try warming up bike first then give it a try your problem will be solved .....i hope
                      Clutch is doing this due to cold start try this and telll.......
                      -=Live to Ride=-
                      2006 Hero Honda, Passion Plus-Black Blue
                      2011 TVS Apache, RTR-180 ABS-White (Stolen)
                      2013-KTM, Duke 200                      -White

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                      • #10721
                        Originally posted by geek-boy View Post
                        Yes and no...the bike stalls with a loud thud...i've been using the bike for 2 years now and this thing recently started happening...i know the sound a bike makes when it stalls but in my case the sound is just too loud (as i said its like some one's hammering it from the inside)

                        Kindly take your bike to SVC ASAP. The same is the issue due to failing one way clutch.
                        There's lot to it other than saddle....


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                        • #10722
                          Hallo Drifty!

                          Thanks a lot for the detailed photograph of the needle as well as the schematic diagram. It it indeed helpful. I am interested to check any clogging of the main jet. If I find it clear, I shall change the needle height towards richer side.

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                          • #10723
                            Originally posted by Drifty View Post
                            You can go ahead with checking the tappet clearance.Sometimes,a richer A/F mixture makes the idle rpm unstable so make the mixture a bit leaner and see if the rpm comes down gradually.


                            AFAIK,you can only make the fuel rich/lean by changing the position of the jet needle.When you remove the jet needle from the piston valve,you can see there are 3 adjustment slots in the BS-29 carb jet needle.The clip if set at highest position will lean the mixture while if set at lowest position will make the mixture too rich.The factory set position is the middle slot.
                            Adding a few pics of the jet needle..
                            In this pic,the needle has 3 slots,the clip is set at the highest position which will make the mixture too lean.Hope you got it.


                            Wow. Great post. Do all the things that you told apply to RTR160 as well? I'm looking to get a good carb tuning. So, approximately how many revolutions from the leanest side should the screw be turned to get half way(The 'stock' position as per your pic)?

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                            • #10724
                              Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
                              Kindly take your bike to SVC ASAP. The same is the issue due to failing one way clutch.
                              +1.May be its the one way clutch issue.

                              Originally posted by ayashkm View Post
                              Hallo Drifty!
                              Thanks a lot for the detailed photograph of the needle as well as the schematic diagram. It it indeed helpful. I am interested to check any clogging of the main jet. If I find it clear, I shall change the needle height towards richer side.
                              Originally posted by pcgamer View Post
                              Wow. Great post. Do all the things that you told apply to RTR160 as well? I'm looking to get a good carb tuning. So, approximately how many revolutions from the leanest side should the screw be turned to get half way(The 'stock' position as per your pic)?
                              The same thing applies to most of the bikes including the RTR160.If you are referring to the Air-Fuel mixture screw(shown in the below pic),then its around 3 and a half turns from the leanest position,that would be the optimum mixture.
                              If you are looking towards changing the needle jet clip position,then setting the clip at lowest position will make the mixture too rich.It has most of the effect between 1/4th and 3/4th throttle.The engine will sputter with fuel and you can experience lazy kinda feeling in the mid range rpms if you set the clip at that setting.Best,you can add thin washers to increase the height of the needle jet by a 'little' margin which will allow 'slightly' more fuel to pass through it.This will serve your purpose if you have a free flow air filter installed in your bike.
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                              Last edited by Drifty; 04-29-2012, 11:57 PM.

                              D.I.Y-Valve clearance setting RTR180
                              D.I.Y-RTR180 brake fluid replacing/brake bleeding
                              D.I.Y-RTR180 brake pad replacing/cleaning
                              Exploded view of Mikuni BS-29 carb

                              A motorcycle functions entirely in accordance with the laws of reason, and a study of the art of motorcycle maintenance is really a miniature study of the art of rationality itself.

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                              • #10725
                                Originally posted by harishmenace View Post
                                Any idea about the price.
                                RTR 180 - 81035 INR.
                                ABS model costs another 10.5K.
                                Costs are on the road.

                                Originally posted by Krish1417 View Post
                                Did you took any pics? Any idea about if we can have the headlights on our "classic" apaches?
                                I think it's not possible. Would soon try to figure that out.
                                The Apache is ever willing to red line each cog, but the Rider ain't. Enjoy RTR, Safely. Period.

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