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  • Originally posted by lijok View Post
    As I have noticed in my RTR180, its between 6- 8k rpm... you can really feel the bike pulling away
    Thanks bro

    Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
    the real punch starts from 5400 and stays really strong till 9000 (same for 160,FI though in 180 you'll feel little and i mean LITTLE more pull)

    after that it drops considerabley but you'll experience the 'pull' (but not much) till 10700 after that it'll vanish though you can touch 12000 but it's useless to pull the bike at that cuz it nevr shows any pull or power after 10700.
    Thanks renny , was expecting an answer from you .
    Well I really like these accelerating bikes rather than fastest bikes , but the vibes make me stay away .
    So have put some questions at the end , please answer that also .

    Originally posted by nox2505 View Post
    Same For RTR160 also. Only thing is 180 & Fi have better low end torque (PULL in renny's words).
    Thanks bro

    Originally posted by bala_racing View Post
    Yes, today morning experienced the same. It starts at 6k, when I was trying to drag a Yamaha FZ-16. It is pretty easy to win that bike at above 6k rpm on top gear touching 90kmph
    Since my bike RTR 180 is new, I don't want to test the high end (above 8k rpm), I slowed down and kept her at 50 kmph.
    Thanks bro

    Alright guys , sorry if I am typing something insulting or so , dont mean it .
    Well I have always heard about vibes in this bike .
    Some owners say this issue is kinda illustrated or made to sound much more than it is.

    1. Are they really very uncomfortable .
    2. Do we feel it only at foot pegs and handle bars or at the seat also , which I dont like .
    3. Do the vibes creep in at the same RPM range or any other ? .
    4. What about the comfort level on pot holes and uneven roads , coz I ride where roads have a lot of these , I feel like I am Offroading 70% of the time .
    5. Low end torque ? , Can the bike pull a lot of weight ( pillion with some extra weights ) considerably . Well ofcourse I am not comparing it with a bullet and the feel depends on a person to person , But still I would request or ask you to comment freely whatever way you like to talk about it . This Coz sometimes I may use the bike for offroading .
    6. Typical question - mileage and reliability . Heard some TVS parts are not so good like speedo needle breaks and all .
    7. Any problem on climbing twisties ? .

    Please answer my questions , I am going to take test ride of this bike so I can keep in mind whatever you say , while riding .
    Sorry for too many questions , RTR is the only bike I have not have a ride on . Frankly at the moment just wanna know how it feels to ride this rev crazy thing , and may be some of my friends if they ask .

    Thanks a lot for your valuable time .
    Last edited by outworldly maniac; 11-14-2009, 01:31 AM.
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    • Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
      I have to pay toll to and fro,hereby planning to take the bike.I will have to buy a diesel car for that kind of running which would be an expensive affair.Moreover my 95% running will be on Highway,so i need a bike that can cruise comfortably at speeds of 80-90km/hr.
      For 100kms(1 side I guess) ,You may consider the Royal Enfield 350 Classic.What Say?It is still modern!
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      • ^

        hey man !!
        am from cochin and am planing to own a Menace !!

        By the way,in which one out of the two COCHIN TVS dealerships have you found more customer side satisfaction ?
        And also about the Servicing ???

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        • and BTW u took it on a ready cash scheme or a finance one ??
          If it was through finance,which bank ?
          Last edited by jadu911; 11-14-2009, 02:02 AM. Reason: oopss sorry !!!

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          • Go with Cochin TVS Edapally.. Which is better..

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            • Originally posted by jadu911 View Post
              hey man !!
              am from cochin and am planing to own a Menace !!

              By the way,in which one out of the two COCHIN TVS dealerships have you found more customer side satisfaction ?
              And also about the Servicing ???
              I bought from Cochin TVS ,Vyttila(Since the local dealer has no stocks of RTR180 at that time).I Find them OK.

              I would have bought from Athickal TVS,Thodupuzha near to Me.

              I hate City Branches of TVS Dealer(Sadly one dealer only) Workshop for the fact that ,I need to leave the Bike around 8.30-9AM to get the Bike serviced.

              I feel lot relaxed after sticking with a near by dealer service.
              Originally posted by jadu911
              and BTW u took it on a ready cash scheme or a finance one ??
              If it was through finance,which bank ?
              I paid Ready Cash to get My Black RTR 180.No Discounts Rs 71700 when I bought.
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              • Originally posted by johnjojo08 View Post
                Go with Cochin TVS Edapally.. Which is better..
                HOH !!!

                The prob. is that i live near to Lissie and it would rather be more quick to get to the Vytilla Branch.As you know that it is a hell kinda thing to reach from Lisie to that Edapally Branch.But what can i sacrifice, for a better Customer Service.I wil go for the Edapally branch !!!!



                @ prakash_mvpa

                But now the On road cost is 72,500 /-



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                BTW, please clear me from a strange doubt that i had felt when i saw the bike !!!
                am cliping a pic and in that,on the inner side of area where i had marked,there is a small cylindrical object about 6cms length with a slight whitish and blue in color where as all other engine parts are Black !!
                Please tell me what is that !!!

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                • I think it is the starter ,you are talking about.Check whether lucas-tvs is written?
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                  • Originally posted by prakash_mvpa View Post
                    For 100kms(1 side I guess) ,You may consider the Royal Enfield 350 Classic.What Say?It is still modern!
                    Enfields,i mite as well steer clear of them.100km is home-office-home.
                    @jadu911-Its the self starter
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                    • Originally posted by bala_racing View Post
                      Vibes are there which gives you a wobbling kind of feel at around 4k-5k rpm. .
                      vibes in any case in RTR family never creates the wobbling effect....
                      it will NEVER.
                      check the weights at ur alloy, they may be out..

                      Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                      1. Are they really very uncomfortable .
                      2. Do we feel it only at foot pegs and handle bars or at the seat also , which I dont like .
                      3. Do the vibes creep in at the same RPM range or any other ? . .
                      yes the vibrations are uncomfortable if you'll keep on riding over to the certain RPM (5300-6700, this is the RPM range when the vibrations starts and ends and bike is butter smooth after 7000RPM to 9500 then the vibration creeps in again) over long period of time...

                      the vibration will be felt at the handlebars and not to the front pegs but the rear pegs will be shaking like a "mad outta it's mind" massaging machine after 6500 to 10000(right to the peak 12000)


                      Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                      4. What about the comfort level on pot holes and uneven roads , coz I ride where roads have a lot of these , I feel like I am Offroading 70% of the time .
                      the bike is comfortable to the stretch of 50-60kms, after that the riding positon may bother some as it puts lot of weight to ur wrist.
                      the suspension is good but not as soft and comfy as the pulsars,hunk or unicorn(as it's stiff great for cornering and track usage)


                      Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                      Low end torque ? , Can the bike pull a lot of weight ( pillion with some extra weights ) considerably . Well ofcourse I am not comparing it with a bullet and the feel depends on a person to person , But still I would request or ask you to comment freely whatever way you like to talk about it . This Coz sometimes I may use the bike for offroading .
                      the bike pulls cleany from 2000RPM in 4th gear with 2 persons on board (i'm 78kgs and my friend is 70, keeping that ratio in mind i'm telling you) so that spells out the low end torque capabilities of bike, in regular usage terms...

                      Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                      Typical question - mileage and reliability . Heard some TVS parts are not so good like speedo needle breaks and all .
                      ask Mr. SATISH who owns RTR for almost 2 years and logged more than 30k's his bike is doin still great with no complaints whatsoever, and many other satisfied owners in the thread for it's reliability, TVS has this repo in indians mind (and that effects resale on large extent)
                      I completed one year in my FI with no complaints apart from the injector changed under warranty.


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                      Originally posted by outworldly maniac View Post
                      Any problem on climbing twisties ?
                      are you joking. ..........
                      the RTR is king of twisties man...
                      weather it's climbing or coming down to it.....

                      Originally posted by jadu911 View Post
                      BTW, please clear me from a strange doubt that i had felt when i saw the bike !!!
                      there is a small cylindrical object about 6cms length with a slight whitish and blue in color where as all other engine parts are Black !!
                      Please tell me what is that !!!
                      that's the starter motor dude.....
                      Last edited by rennycornelius; 11-14-2009, 09:56 AM.
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                      • i have decided to purchase rtr180.i want a bike without too much unnecessary plastic and show items which attracts so many unwanted elements.i was looking for bike which could be parked at any place with any extra care.i want useful suggestions from the user of rtr180.all negatives noticed by them may be advised specially about engine noise and viberations,headlights,handling etc.
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                        • OT:Helical gears in gearbox.

                          As some one has already pointed out the benfit of helical gears that the tooth which are supposed to come in mesh with each other do not slam at each other but due to the inclination of the gear tooth to its axis of rotation(helix angle) causes it to mate with the messhing gear in a gradual and slow manner. The initial contact is a point and not a line contact as in spur gears.This leads to less shocks,less vibration,less noise,increased life.
                          Manufacturing of helical gears is not necessarily costly than spur gears if they are hobbed but if they are cut on a shaping machine -in case of a gear with a shoulder whom the hob shouldnot cut the helical shaping machine is used which needs a helical guide.This guide is costly to make and thats what it leads to increased cost for helical gears.But its a one time investment only,but everytime you change the helix angle you need to change the helical guide. Helical gears cause side thrust but that can be taken care by a higher capacity ball bearing,the thrust in a bikes gearbox is quite less due to the less torque generated.
                          A constant mesh gearbox need not have helical gears,its the splines(internal of the coupling and external spline of the gearhub) which mate.Also the start of the spline has been given a chamfer for smooth engagement and also a back taper so that the gear does not skip once engaged.

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                          • OT

                            Originally posted by velociraptor13 View Post
                            Helical gears are less noisier in operation than spur gear ,because the gear tooth in case of helical do not come in contact(thanks to the tooth profile) at one go unlike in spur gear.In helical gears the tooths are inclined at an angle called as the Helix angle,wheras spur the tooth is straight cut.The disadvantage of helical gear is its to expensive to manufacture.
                            Sorry for going very very ot.
                            Nice piece of information. I always wondered what it meant after seeing the Workshop manual
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                            • Hi guys i hve a feel that my RTR 180's pick ups been reduced after 1st service...
                              The mileage i get is around 35-38 only..
                              Is ter a possibility that the tuning of the engine has been changed..
                              But with the amount of mileage i get is it possible to increase the pick up even more..
                              I dont want my mileage to drop below 35.
                              I rode a rtr 160 and i felt that its pick up is even more compared to mine..
                              Wats the idle RPM level for RTR 180...
                              It was at 800 yen i purchased the bike i hve raised it to 1000 now...

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                              • Originally posted by mpasanthosh View Post
                                Hi guys i hve a feel that my RTR 180's pick ups been reduced after 1st service...
                                The mileage i get is around 35-38 only..
                                Is ter a possibility that the tuning of the engine has been changed..
                                But with the amount of mileage i get is it possible to increase the pick up even more..
                                I dont want my mileage to drop below 35.
                                I rode a rtr 160 and i felt that its pick up is even more compared to mine..
                                Wats the idle RPM level for RTR 180...
                                It was at 800 yen i purchased the bike i hve raised it to 1000 now...

                                Get back to SVC, get airfilter cleaned and spark plug checked in ur pressence. Then get the carb tuned. Idle RPM is 1400+/- 100. ucan keep down upto 1200.
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