+1 to that! Go for 91 octane ONLY if your vehicle has a compression ratio higher than 10.0:1.

These premium petrols shows some significant improvements in cars, NOT in small engine bikes.
I always use Shell normal petrol. If Shell is available in your area stick to that.
BTW, how contaminants in the petrol affect the air filter

+1, same for me

I hope it is only a "Psychological" feeling!!

Ahhh.... I don't think contaminants in the petrol can affect the air filter.... I mean to say after I got my Air filter cleaned from the service station, I was asked to change the petrol also as it was contaminated which was another reason for low mileage and pick up for my bike...

200% I agree with the your point on Shell petrols...

Ahhh.... ... I know air filter wont get in touch with fuel. I mean to say after I got my Air filter cleaned from the service station, I was asked to change the petrol too as it was contaminated which was another reason for low mileage and pick up for my bike...

I agree.... but even though i would recommend filling a litre or two once a week just to keep the engine knocking in check. Xtrapremium really works when it comes to decreasing the engine knocking. I mean in the RTR 180, the difference is much more noticeable.

@ renny
thanks buddy for replying again .

Hey guys had a test ride today .
Let me congratulate you for owning this awesome monster .

* The suspension are good enough for bad roads( small uneven surfaces or small stones ) , offroad i dont know but where i had test ride was full bad road but the suspension performed beautifully . Stock setting is at 4th position .
Do you all ride at this setting ? .

* I dint like the 1st gear very much but the 2nd and 3rd feel really good .
Could not go more coz was riding in a crowded place .
The gearbox also was good .

Is this the actual case or the Test ride bike was maintained beautifully .

* There are vibrations above 6k rpm as you all told . Got awesome foot massage . Did not like it , felt uncomfortable . This thing vibrates much more and strong than my years old two stroke engine . Because of apache 's engine design may be . Some call it necessary coz if gives them a feel of power , fair enough but not my liking .

* The engine is revvy , so had to use throttle a lot more. Already have a bit wrist pain . But guess I am not adapted to it so felt that way .

But the thing that makes me imagine is really does this help in bumper to bumper traffic or a crowded city where you stop n go , stop n go ? .
What do you think ? , Dont your wrists pain because of the revy nature in traffic ? .
V happy that i got a two stroke .

Also the discs are powerful , but how does the rear act in sudden situations ?. Is it more dangerous than normal brakes ?. Wish there was an abs .

One considerable is that it is priced almost near p220 , 5k diff .
Hence I guess more people will go for that rather than RTR because of many reasons you all may be knowing .

But this bike is really compact and light which I really like.,my kinda things.
Only n only downside for me is vibs man , if this bike dint have these vibes it would have been one of the very best out there . Guess it already is for some but would have received the praise it should have .

Thanks friends for hearing me out , although I know it may not help in any way but just felt like sharing wid you all and also clearing my doubts.

@alien maniac
about the wrist pain.. even I had it initially...will get used to it in a week or two...

The high revs make sure that you get ahead of the pack from a traffic... though like you said, it not so + for city traffic... but hey.. the rtr 180 has good low end torque to keep moving in 2nd gear....

Dont worry about the rear disc... it just acts like a normal drum brake... but wonderfully more efficient... personally i've never had any skidding issue under hard braking... and i've had to brake suddenly lots of times... the brakes are the best confidence inspriring aspect of the 180...

cheers,
lijo

^^True!!

While the 160s rear wiggle like anything under panic braking conditions,the 180 remains extremely stable.The rear disc brake actually behaves like one with no spongy feel.It has got just the right amount of feedback.

Say 160 rear drum.

high RPM or low RPM knocking????????????????


yes the RTR's rear disc is very mild in biting and works very well with the pressure applied to the pedal, i.e. it works brilliantly when the rider "plays" with his foot pressure on it...
great for braking while attacking a corner at high speed and taking sharp tight turn while accelerating and braking almost simultaneously...

but after repeated usage in twisties it gets fried so much that you'll wonder if there are any pads in the calipers....

+1 .... very true indeed ...

The Mech(SVC Guy) here told me to use only normal petrol else the inside of the tank will rust .

i was constantly getting 35kmpl the last week and even the engine chokes as if its run out of fuel (happens only for 1-2kms after starting the bike early morning) was sick of it and saw that my engine was idleing at 1k , i increased it to 1350rmp ... im getting 40kmpl(min, today i got 45) and the engine feels free from choking.So i recommend u guys to follow the manual and not the svc guy(he changed the idling to 1k).

About the Rear discs , It depends upon the pressure we apply, i had to use both the breaks suddenly when i was at 70-80 , the rear wheel does skid but it doesnt wobble , it skids in the strait line (ofc if u turn it might slip). Im soo used to it that i can make it skid whenever i want under complete control. Rear Disc Rocks...

Prbs im facing - Gearbox is not smooth , that is the only major prb i faced till now , no solution yet , Rest of the bike is Superb

Im Still loving every Ride ... Completed 3200kms

ps: Twisties are awesome on this bike , i feel like i can beet V. Rossi whn ever i do those at high speeds

Tank rusting due to premium petrol....hearing for the first time.
Premium petrol can be over-reactive to some seals in carburetor or other seals in the fuel path, but I don't think it will create rust. Rust is a oxidation process. (Most of the hydro-carbons are anti-rust agents!).

I agree with you , the rear disc can skid if not properly handled while braking. I use both my brake giving more than 70% effort to front followed by 30% effort to rear.
The rear brake of Apache 180 is made of single-pot caliper whereas the front has a twin-pot caliper. So, by design, more force acts on the front.

The idle RPM is 1400+/- 100 rpm under warm conditions. Maintain it to keep the engine running smoothly.

Gear feel is not smooth. I'm planning to change my engine oil to ELF.

Also the rear tyre skids on wet surfaces.

My bike has done 500 km on odo as of today and service light started glowing. Will give for service next week.

and you listened what he said....
he is MORON...

your tank will NEVER RUST just by switching the octane of petrol...
and stop wasting your money on high octane fuels...
they're useless in RTR (9.5:1)


and that's not cuz of the disc, that's because of the right aligned wheel(chain setting perfectly done at both the ends) correct alloy weights,and you not knowingly balancing your weight accordingly......