Fine!
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I got back the bike at 4PM today.went a round trip to return as well as cover kms. .
Bike Feels better now.Knocking sound has gone.there is some paraffin wax like thing is pasted(Some Adhesive like Anabond ,I guess) over the gasket area(where head and block meets) near the tappet cover.May be,to prevent another gasket getting busted?(Last time cochin dealer changed the gasket!)
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A Question to RTR180 Owners:
Guys ,at what speed you experience vibration?You can check by accelerating to some 65-70kmph and close the throttle to decelerate and look at speedo/tacho for at what speed you experience the most vibration(At some free roads!)?

For My RTR180 ,Vibrations is not at all a issue.I experience slight vibration between 55-65kmph speed.and When I tried above method to check at what rpm/speed the most vibration happens ,I found vibration is High at 58kmph speed.

Guys ,at what speed you experience vibration?You can check by accelerating to some 65-70kmph and close the throttle to decelerate and look at speedo/tacho for at what speed you experience the most vibration(At some free roads!)?

For My RTR180 ,Vibrations is not at all a issue.I experience slight vibration between 55-65kmph speed.and When I tried above method to check at what rpm/speed the most vibration happens ,I found vibration is High at 58kmph speed.

There's no reason why an RTR won't vibrate.It's in their genes..I think the bike vibrates the most in between 50-60kmph mark.It's easily noticeable even if you do not pay attention to it.The vibrations of the handlebar are simply intolerable in this range.As soon as the speed crosses the 48-50kmph mark vibrations peep in and then continues eating your brain till 65kmph.AFter that bike is a smooth operator but then who rides at these speeds in metros.
The main problem is that this(4-6k) is the most usable in the powerband for riding in cities and Apaches vibrate the most in this...thts's why the case of vibrations in RTRs is exaggerated...

0-60 kmph

@shivank
Mine 0-60 record is 3.4 secs.

Whoa!!..thats great bro!!
but how do ya manage that?..i mean the best i've clocked so far is 4.1 sec..

^^^
Actually this was done by my darling friend, who is great at drags. It is all a matter of gear shifts. I am learning to make fast gear shifts from him. My personal best has been 4.0 secs.

hmmm...fooling us,eh?...okay,just kidding yaar..

I think i cannot give the bike a perfect launch evertime i start for it and that's why my time is past 4.0 sec..! Most of the times the front wheel pops up..
Looks like we need help from RTR master Renny!!

the main area of vibration (RTR,RTR FI and RTR 180 all included) lies exactly in 5300-6400+-200....
the bike vibrates the most (courtsey ULTRA SHORT STROKE ENGINE), in this area and most of it felt at HANDLEBAR and tank knee area...

after 6500 the bike becomes super smooth till 10000 at the handlebar and tank knee area, great for the rider, but the pillion footpegs vibrates so much that one has to take their foot off it....

and like you said with your RTR 180 it's not an issue, ride it at the RPM's area i've mentioned and you'll get to know what i'm talkin about....

for city riding, the vibes are not felt cuz 5500 is enough for the city, and for the red light GP's the RTR crooses 5000-7000 RPM mark almost in sec and a half or even SEC so the vibe is not at all noticable (if riding solo),
but within 65-78 kmph area (5300-6400) it's gives shivers down the hands very nuch and that is the cruising speeds which makes this bike impossible to ride...

due to this i've to always maintain 100-105 at long runs and the engine feels super smooth at that.




dont trust RTR logger,it'll surprise you evrytime...
leave the clutch at 4500 RPM in first with weight transfered to front (croutched) pull it to 10000 shift to second and pull till you see 60 at the speedo and you'll beat the 4.0 thing.....

@renny:I have just done a 100kms trip.I observed what rpm/speed range where My RTR180 is having most vibration.and it starts from 4000rpm-4900rpm range.The Most Vibration is Felt at 58kmph or 4200rpm.at 5000rpm Bike is at 68-70kmph speed.
Took the Bike Till 110kmph.What I observed is ,there is very slight vibrations till 100kmph and afterwards the bike's behaviour changes(positively).
^Above is what I observed on My RTR180. YMMV(Your Mileage May Vary).
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A Small Query:
I normally ride around 50-70kmph speeds.But ,Some Times cruises on 85-90kmph too(We Have no Big and Wide Highways Here).I rode the Bike till half throttle most of the time.So,Bike reaches target speed range gradually.
I was thinking ki ,since this is running-in time ,Is there any issue if We Don't Try Full Throttle shift?I don't race ,hence the usage is rare.But ,I am worried whether doing not so will affect the Engine to be "open" properly.

Another doubt is ,If I want to go above 100kmph ,Do I need to ride at Full Throttle, maximum speeds in each gear,Fast Gear Shifting?Will this affect New Engine.

Current Odo Reading: 2122kms.Top Speed 110kmph.Last Engine Oil Change at 1600kms.

I've been following this post since i made plans to buy an RTR 180. After so much of reading finally i got my black RTR last month. Put up in Bangalore, me and my friends went for a trip to Nandi Hills yesterday.... clocked just 500 kms till now. waiting for the first service completion.

Nice ride... its really hard to hold this bike in its rev limits...

Took this pic from one of the curves on the way...

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You guys've been really helpful in resolving many of my doubts, mainly the Vibration, tappet noise, gear slip, engine heatup during initial running-in.

Am planning to install a bike security / remote start system on my Menace. Found some models from ROOTS and PRICOL. Can anybody shed more lights on this topic.
1. Is it compatible with RTR 180s.
2. Will it affect bikes Warranty.

Thanks a lot... Anup

RTR 180 Vibo-range

I have been riding mine for about 1 k Kms now. In my observation the vibrations are in an very inconvenient range. They start when you reach about 4K and exist till about 5k rpm ( lets call it the Vibo-Range). This usually translates to a speed between mid 50s to mid 60s, in the fifth gear. This tends to be the sweet spot, where a biker would mostly likely cruise for medium distance runs ( In a relaxed India traffic setting).

The vibrations are fairly disconcerting, and considering their range and the dynamics of Indian traffic, they tend to occur often. Importantly the vibrations have this peculiar manner, which works to "discourage" you from revving up. it almost works at a psychological level for me. I know reaching 6k would ease the strain and things would be fine, but the vibrations just make you feel, not wanting to go there.


I am just back from a 50 km ride mostly running on this range and hence the ramblings. . For all else i seem to love my white pearl [].

Also, can anyone tell me about reaching top-speeds ( someone asked before). Should one run each gear till a certain range and then shift , or should you make quick shifts reach the fifth and rev-on.
Also on reaching the top gear, how quickly should one open the throttle to attain maximum speed ?

As a corollary , how does one attain maximum acceleration ? Say from 1 -60.

Cheers

Anup,
I've checked with Tristar TVS guy for the remote lock. He said that it will drain the battery soon and may damage the electrical coil (ignition, I suppose). The coil will cost around Rs.4500/- and is not covered under warranty. So, please think twice b4 installing it.

Friends,
I have taken my new pearl white angel for a ride within Bangalore city. I've clocked 100 km till now. The pick-up is nice.
I'm feeling the vibes, but not a big issue as compared to the pick-up and speed. Brakes gives me enough confidence for city ride.

My friend who sat in the pillion complained about the comfort. He says that the seat is too hard to sit for long.

During the city ride, almost every eyes turned on my angel. I'm very proud to take it for the cruise.
Really struggling hard to keep it within 50 kmph (as I'm still running-in) , the speed goes easliy to 60-70 kmph while I try to overtake some Pulsar or FZ..!!

Mileage issues

Hi,

Guys my 180 gives a mileage of around 35 for rash driving...
Wats te mileage u guys get ..?
Am a bit worried..??
N for those who wants to achive high speeds let te RPM go to aroun 4-5k and shift te gears...Tis will not cause damage to te piston rings...Rash driving can be done by moving te RPM to around 10000 and shift te gears..gradual increase in speed gives better mileage...
But i get only 35 for rash driving tis worries me a lot...Pulsars giv much better mileage tan te 180..But te enjine of 180 is just awesome...

@SKARWIND read Rennys post above for o-60 clocking in min secs rangin below 4...

So i need to pull the bike to 60 in second cog only!..no need of 3rd..
and also how do i leave the clutch -gradually or instantaneously?

If u REV te accelerator too much in first gear and leave te clutch abruptly te front wheel will lift...
After u change it to te second leave te clutch quickly and rev it high till it reaches 60 KM....
Hope i helped u..

wat mileage r u getting..?

i've not ridden RTR 180 very much, the observation i posted was from the test ride i took of 20kms....so may be the RPM range you're mentioning is diff...
but the ones i mentioned was from my stretch of ride...

dude you've done 2122kms...
running in is already over at 1000...
drive the way you want it now.


yups...
and after 8000RPM you can do clutchless shifts without harming the clutch and gearbox,remember always do it at high RPM's like i mentioned here above 8000, that'll help you to shave some millisecs off ur time...