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  • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post
    Regular chains needed a lot of lube so that it would penetrate and lube the mating surfaces of each individual link. This excessive lubing required that the chain be sealed in a chain case otherwise it would pick up dirt and grime from the road and spoil the chain and sprockets. Sealed o-ring chains meant that the lubing of each link, was taken care of internally. So they could be left exposed. However, a very important point which chicane pointed out is the lubing between the chain and sprockets. Any mechanical device which is in contact with another surface needs to be lubed. What i would suggest is first cleaning the chain thoroughly by whatever method you find ideal, however, be careful when using a solvent based product as it may spoil the o-rings. Then use a good quality chain lube to thoroughly lube the chain. Run the bike in gear on the mainstand for about 5 minutes so that the lube works its way everywhere. Then wipe off the bottom (outside), and both sides of the chain with a clean cloth. These surfaces do not contact anywhere and do not require continuous lubing. Leave the inside edge of the chain where it contacts the sprockets lubed. Most mechs these days still use the old methods of lubing and leave a gooey mess which attracts all sorts of rubbish. And i can't for the life of me understand why they put so much grease/oil on the outer surface of the chain. It doesn't touch anything!
    I would also like to add that proper lubing will reduce rust and corrosion and operating temperature of the components in contact i.e sprockets.A lack of lubrication increases friction between these surfaces,which would increase the working temperature of the components. This higher than normal temperature will result in components becoming less effective, therefore increasing chain wear. Lubricant between roller and the bushings will decrease friction and heat, and will in turn improve the efficiency of the drive, extending chain and sprocket's life.

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    • Originally posted by abbydance4life View Post
      I own Matt Grey RTR 180, should i go for lacquer coating!!
      will it protect the paint?
      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
      But the matt grey now looks like it's been laquered
      It will definitely protect the paint AND stickers. The first to go are the stickers. Paint takes longer. Because there's no lacquer, the edges are exposed. Dust will get into the edges, making them peel. If the bike's been in the sun long enough, the glue will have hardened and the peeled-off bit might break off leaving the rest of the sticker intact. Or it may just keep peeling. A nightmare scenario which i'm going through right now. One major spot is the tank stripe just behind the cap on the left. About an inch or two of the edge (about 2mm wide) has peeled and broken off.
      But, be warned, you will loose the matte finish and it will be super glossy and shiny. I'm not sure but i think using a rough grinding paste AFTER lacquering, would give a kind of matte finish. That's the theory anyway.

      Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
      Thanks a ton for the detailed explaination, will be lubing it with the motul chain spray then, cuz regular oil will end up making it home for the sludge.
      Chain spray has a perfect consistency, unlike any ratio of oil/grease mixed with kerosene. Almost like a thicker wd-40. I haven't used it here, but in muscat. Some american brand, not 3m. And the chain still looks lovely. Just have to wipe off the non-mating parts.

      Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
      I would also like to add that proper lubing will reduce rust and corrosion and operating temperature of the components in contact i.e sprockets.A lack of lubrication increases friction between these surfaces,which would increase the working temperature of the components. This higher than normal temperature will result in components becoming less effective, therefore increasing chain wear. Lubricant between roller and the bushings will decrease friction and heat, and will in turn improve the efficiency of the drive, extending chain and sprocket's life.
      ^^What he said! Cheers mate.

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      • Originally posted by julianpaul View Post

        Chain spray has a perfect consistency, unlike any ratio of oil/grease mixed with kerosene. Almost like a thicker wd-40. I haven't used it here, but in muscat. Some american brand, not 3m. And the chain still looks lovely. Just have to wipe off the non-mating parts.
        How about a spray of WD-40 only???
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        • Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post
          How about a spray of WD-40 only???
          WD-40 is not a lubricant. It stands for Water Displacement#40!!

          It is used to replace water and moisture from the metallic surfaces threby reducing the chances of rust/corrosion. And there is a highly debatable rumour/fact that the compound used in WD-40 could possibly dissolve the lubricants present inside the O-rings.

          You can use WD-40 for cleaning purposes only but not solely for lubing.

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          • Try the new Tru 4 chain spray from TVS, should work well coz its meant for the RTR only.
            Quench my thirst with gasoline!

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            • Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
              Try the new Tru 4 chain spray from TVS, should work well coz its meant for the RTR only.
              Yes, I have seen the same in the SVC. What should be the frequency of usage?

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              • Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                WD-40 is not a lubricant. It stands for Water Displacement#40!!

                It is used to replace water and moisture from the metallic surfaces threby reducing the chances of rust/corrosion. And there is a highly debatable rumour/fact that the compound used in WD-40 could possibly dissolve the lubricants present inside the O-rings.

                You can use WD-40 for cleaning purposes only but not solely for lubing.


                But that thing is really good for the switches and ignition.
                Man i'am happy with the dry chain even if it takes the life by 5000kms..

                Originally posted by Sarvajit View Post
                Try the new Tru 4 chain spray from TVS, should work well coz its meant for the RTR only.
                i'll lube it in rains to save it from rust, till then i'am running it dry.
                The Magician"

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                  • It should not happen like that.

                    Copy/paste the URL and post it here.

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                      • Guys tell me something, whenever you go for servicing your bike at the svc or with some problems, do they ask you to keep your bike for a day at least? Or do they do the needful while you wait at the svc at hand over your bike after that?
                        You can only ride better tomorrow if you ride safe today.

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                        • heheh still facing problem with u r svc guys those saha guys are really lazy a** need 3 days to service 8 bikes it is better to complain to higher authority at least they deserve that
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                          • Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                            Guys tell me something, whenever you go for servicing your bike at the svc or with some problems, do they ask you to keep your bike for a day at least? Or do they do the needful while you wait at the svc at hand over your bike after that?
                            Nops, not never.

                            Unless you visit the service after 2-3P.M or you have some major problem/work to be done. They should not keep the bike's meant for free services for overnight job.

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                            • Originally posted by sunny9830687955 View Post
                              heheh still facing problem with u r svc guys those saha guys are really lazy a** need 3 days to service 8 bikes it is better to complain to higher authority at least they deserve that
                              I have sent an email to TVS. They have replied back by saying sorry for the incovenience caused and asked me for the registration number and the dealer name. I think TVS will now take some steps I have also mentioned about your dissatisfaction with the svc. Lets see what they do.

                              Originally posted by chicane1879 View Post
                              Nops, not never.

                              Unless you visit the service after 2-3P.M or you have some major problem/work to be done. They should not keep the bike's meant for free services for overnight job.
                              Yes thats how it should be done. But the svc here is so damn lazy and indifferent. Whoever comes for servicing or with some problems, they ask him to leave his bike. It doesnt matter to most of the customers but it does to me if i cant ride my bike for even a day. Hence i complained.
                              You can only ride better tomorrow if you ride safe today.

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                              • Originally posted by theguitarfreak View Post
                                Guys tell me something, whenever you go for servicing your bike at the svc or with some problems, do they ask you to keep your bike for a day at least? Or do they do the needful while you wait at the svc at hand over your bike after that?
                                The best way to avoid this is to make a sc guy your friend, and i still recommend to find a good mech out there after getting your free services donr from the Showroom.
                                The Magician"

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