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  • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
    My horn is gone weak and flat . Checked battery , it's in very good condition , OE exide 2.5ah wet cell , fluid levels ok and 12.3v after several days of non-use . Recharged it to 13.3v levels and horn became louder .. still sounds croaky . I have to ride crowded streets and by-lanes all the time .
    ANy suggestions for a better horn or servicing & adjusting the OE one ?
    Help with horn's My favorite thing it is .

    Pinaki Ji try to adjust the horn first , if not then service it . Or if you want to change it then go for stock Maruti Single horn .

    To adjust the horn just rotate the front plate with hands & check for sound . If it's not satisfying then slightly loose the 8 no. bolt which is holding that front plate .

    If this not help then you have the adjust the horn point screw located at back side with the help of screw driver & 8 no. spanner

    To service the horn you have to open the horn & drill the ribit holding horn point , then clean the point , & fit it back to position with a 6 no. nut-bolt.
    ( Wanting to post a DIY but not posted as i don't like the thing that even coment to DIY posts needs approval from mods . )

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    • Pinkaki jee,
      You have so many bikes try swapping the horn and see if it is an electrical fault.
      I replaced the Horn yesterday with a MINDA horn.(Rs.130/-)
      It is a completely sealed unit with hot glue ,even the adjusting screw is covered with hot glue.
      I wanted to buy pulsar's horn but then I would need to use two of them to produce good sound.

      TIP-
      Get a Digital multi-meter and set it on continuity with buzzer mode,
      turn the adjusting screw anticlockwise until DMM does not beep anymore.
      Then turn the screw clockwise and find out the position of the screw from where DMM starts beeping that is the correct setting for your horn.(Turn 90 degrees more if required)

      @Above ALL
      I have got 6 horns which I reconditioned. The contact points usually gets rusted or a layer of carbon(black thing)develops on it and results in croaking or worst it does not operate.I have tried using thin rubber gaskets etc...but somehow water enters in and I have to repeat the process of opening ,cleaning, refitting and adjusting.

      Any tip for preventing that from happening again ?

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      • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
        I found out the headlight bulb mount by peering into it from the front lens , it's marked HS1 ...so HS1/H4 bulbs would fit.... but as I can see no amount of coil winding/bulb change will improve the headlight beam mucho , because the defect lies in reflector design ... it scatters too much instead of concentrating the light ... I am planning on removing the bikini fairing and replacing the whole headlight unit with a round one with good beam . This is not only this bike , but I often see many other bikes with poor headlight ( i ride a lot at nights on long out-of-city stretches ) , just because of poor reflector and headlight assembly design . I am amazed that despite the R&D for so many years they all haven't been able to perfect a simple thing as a good strong focused motorcycle headlamp !!
        FYI,I Was going through this thread and found this out.

        I have focused/aligned/adjusted the reflectors in such a way that the illumination is just awesome,much better than many other 100/150cc bikes out there having 35watt bulbs.
        I don't know why many bikes have beams parallel to the road or they are not adjusted at the time of delivery.

        I will post the pictures of beam spread soon.

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        • Originally posted by Above_All View Post
          Help with horn's My favorite thing it is .
          Pinaki Ji try to adjust the horn first , if not then service it . Or if you want to change it then go for stock Maruti Single horn .
          To adjust the horn just rotate the front plate with hands & check for sound . If it's not satisfying then slightly loose the 8 no. bolt which is holding that front plate .
          If this not help then you have the adjust the horn point screw located at back side with the help of screw driver & 8 no. spanner
          To service the horn you have to open the horn & drill the ribit holding horn point , then clean the point , & fit it back to position with a 6 no. nut-bolt.
          ( Wanting to post a DIY but not posted as i don't like the thing that even coment to DIY posts needs approval from mods . )
          Everytime I have tried tinkering with horns earlier , most of them never made ANY sound after that . Anyway , I'll try little bit as suggested by you and shoeb . Maruti single horn will work ok on the 2.5Ah battery ? I do have a maruti parts dealer almost next door .
          If you write your guide specific for the splendor , you can post it in this thread only .. I guess .
          Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
          Pinkaki jee,
          You have so many bikes try swapping the horn and see if it is an electrical fault.
          I replaced the Horn yesterday with a MINDA horn.(Rs.130/-)
          It is a completely sealed unit with hot glue ,even the adjusting screw is covered with hot glue.
          I wanted to buy pulsar's horn but then I would need to use two of them to produce good sound.
          TIP-
          Get a Digital multi-meter and set it on continuity with buzzer mode,
          turn the adjusting screw anticlockwise until DMM does not beep anymore.
          Then turn the screw clockwise and find out the position of the screw from where DMM starts beeping that is the correct setting for your horn.(Turn 90 degrees more if required)
          @Above ALL
          I have got 6 horns which I reconditioned. The contact points usually gets rusted or a layer of carbon(black thing)develops on it and results in croaking or worst it does not operate.I have tried using thin rubber gaskets etc...but somehow water enters in and I have to repeat the process of opening ,cleaning, refitting and adjusting.
          Any tip for preventing that from happening again ?
          Great TIP !! I do have an cheapo multimeter with continuity buzz . The Splendor plus's OEM horn can be disassembled and worked on ? Sure ? Then I shall try it .
          Just 3 bikes in running condition , a max-100R , a cbz-x mostly ridden by my kid bro and this splendor+ . My Rx-135 needs a cylinder-piston kit and yamaha is asking 7000 Rs plus just for that(excluding other parts that'll surely be required) , so haven't got to it yet and the bike is kept covered in garage . Can't take out horns from the running bikes because I & bro need them constantly and love that rx too much to risk it's all oem parts .
          Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
          FYI,I Was going through this thread and found this out.
          I have focused/aligned/adjusted the reflectors in such a way that the illumination is just awesome,much better than many other 100/150cc bikes out there having 35watt bulbs.
          I don't know why many bikes have beams parallel to the road or they are not adjusted at the time of delivery.
          I will post the pictures of beam spread soon.
          Yeah , I often wonder about this . Now how difficult is it for these big big motorcycle manufacturers to design an conventional headlight reflector+lens that works right ?!!
          TIP - If you dissemble and polish the reflector,bulb and lens internals with waxpol liquid silicone polish , it reflects at least 10% better and doesn't fog insides on rainy days . This is easy to do on headlights like Yezdi or RX but in splendor/cbz-x etc(most bikes these days) you have to go through the trouble of removing and putting back the fairing .
          Last edited by Pinaki; 02-09-2012, 10:46 PM.

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          • @above all- splendor meter cable are coming with this type of defect. One solution is to use 'SUPRAJIT' or "REMSON" cables. SUPRAJIT is OE supplier to almost every company. Previously pricol cable used to come which were approximately Rs. 150 and of much higher quality. While in 2006 i had this problem of breaking of meter pinion and inner wire every five days. My mechanic changed complete cable and pinion as a set and the cable inner lasted for 5 years (for me its approximately 1.3 lacs km) and i changed the cable in December 2011 and the pinion is still going strong.
            @pinaki- As sachin has said i have changed the spark plug to ngk the bike wouldn't idle slow and the engine felt rough and mileage became 65 k pl while my 20k run champion plug would idle at approx 1000 rpm and returned 75-80 k pl in city cycle. I bought a champion plug and all the problem vanished. Remember a splendor engine will idle at 1000 rpm when warm without any problem. If it is turning off then either the air-fuel mixture is wrong or there is problem in ignition system or the engine is leaking compression through valves. Slow idling is an excellent method to check whether the tappets are tight as it will leak compression.
            Yes swiss bulbs are of excellent quality and don't buy electrical products from lumax as they are of worst quality. Lumax makes reflectors and sealed beam of excellent quality. Ve range is a company which has the best quality bulbs or you can go for Halonix brand bulbs.

            Sometimes bulb also dictates the light spread of headlights. try different brand bulbs and see which gives best light output.
            Or you can use the Germany bulb coming in new cbz extreme which comes at around Rs.195. You can get it at hero spares and this bulb is thinner than conventional halogen bulb. see the headlight of new extreme or shine.
            You can adjust the headlight focus for better visibility.

            First find a dark spot so that you can view the light well. Then make some one sit on the bike and race the engine with the headlight on. Then insert a Phillips head screw driver in the headlight adjusting screw and rotate the screw for vertical adjustment. Adjust in such a way that the head beam falls on the road at a distance of approx 50 feet. Usually dipper scatters more if the headlight is pointed high. My fathers splendor+ had the same problem and i lowered the light as a result visibility has improved tremendously. My Joy has round MFR headlight so it has much better visibility but its light intensity is low than new hero.
            Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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            • Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
              @Above ALL
              I have got 6 horns which I reconditioned. The contact points usually gets rusted or a layer of carbon(black thing)develops on it and results in croaking or worst it does not operate.I have tried using thin rubber gaskets etc...but somehow water enters in and I have to repeat the process of opening ,cleaning, refitting and adjusting.

              Any tip for preventing that from happening again ?
              With use of horns , carbon would be deposited on the point . But if there water enters then add rubber washers/packings to the sound adjustment screw & supply pins screw . Also make packings for diaphagram with the help of underwear & banian card paper .
              Or insert the hot glue with the help of glue gun to points where you suspect leak .

              Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
              Everytime I have tried tinkering with horns earlier , most of them never made ANY sound after that . Anyway , I'll try little bit as suggested by you and shoeb . Maruti single horn will work ok on the 2.5Ah battery ? I do have a maruti parts dealer almost next door .
              If you write your guide specific for the splendor , you can post it in this thread only .. I guess .
              If horns become complete dead while tinkering try to disamble it & clean the carbon inside where ever you find & then reassemble it .
              For maruti single horn its always good to add a relay .
              Collecting data for some of DIY & other's will post here or make a new wordpress blog & then post their .

              Originally posted by sibun View Post
              @above all- splendor meter cable are coming with this type of defect. One solution is to use 'SUPRAJIT' or "REMSON" cables. SUPRAJIT is OE supplier to almost every company. Previously pricol cable used to come which were approximately Rs. 150 and of much higher quality. While in 2006 i had this problem of breaking of meter pinion and inner wire every five days. My mechanic changed complete cable and pinion as a set and the cable inner lasted for 5 years (for me its approximately 1.3 lacs km) and i changed the cable in December 2011 and the pinion is still going strong.
              Is this message for me ?
              I don't have any problem with the speedo cable of my passion .

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              • QUOTE=Above_All

                Is this message for me ?
                I don't have any problem with the speedo cable of my passion . [/QUOTE]

                It is for me
                Last edited by shoeb2015; 11-25-2012, 07:14 PM.

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                • Nowadays I am interested more in modifying/improving my dad's splendor

                  I want to retrofit a selfstart,Dad is ready to spend upto Rs.6000/-
                  Is it possible ?
                  Apart from this what changes/spares are required ?

                  1.starter assembly
                  2.LH magneto cover
                  3.New Battery >4ah
                  4.RH switch assem.for starter
                  5.Wiring changes.
                  6.One-way clutch for starter
                  ...
                  ........
                  ...........
                  etc.

                  Is it possible ?
                  Is there any kit available ?
                  Has anyone done this ever ?


                  Please Help me.
                  Last edited by shoeb2015; 02-10-2012, 11:00 PM.

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                  • It should be possible and made even easier now, since the new Splendor Pro model sports a self-start . All engine parts of splendor pro for the self, should be direct fit on all the splendors I think . It may be a tedious job to collect all the parts from an authorised HH parts dealer and find a competent mechanic to do it though .
                    Like you , I'm loving to ride this bike more and more now , it's light and easy to ride and simple to maintain . The thing I like most about it is that it's a practical and durable commuter made for the aam-aadmi , for going from point A to B with least cost and fuss and it has no pretense i.e - no "sports bike" etc written on it or fake air scoops or red rear shocker springs to make it look like anything else .
                    Last edited by Pinaki; 02-10-2012, 11:49 PM.

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                    • Originally posted by Pinaki View Post
                      i.e - no "sports bike" etc written on it or fake air scoops or red rear shocker springs to make it look like anything else .
                      I believe you're not referring to the ZMA.
                      Motorcycling Experience:
                      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                      Adios Comrades!
                      A.P. 2018

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                      • absolutely not ashwin'jee ... but come to think of it , which sports bike in the world needs to be labeled . Jus kidding, love the zma/zmr

                        @ Sibun'jee & Above_all .. now I gotta find some spare time asap to try out all your awesum tips , Thanks . reporting back the results after tht asap too .
                        Last edited by Pinaki; 02-11-2012, 01:09 AM.

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                        • Originally posted by shoeb2015 View Post
                          Nowadays I am interested more in modifying/improving my dad's splendor

                          I want to retrofit a selfstart,Dad is ready to spend upto Rs.6000/-
                          Is it possible ?
                          Apart from this what changes/spares are required ?

                          1.starter assembly
                          2.LH magneto cover
                          3.New Battery >4ah
                          4.RH switch assem.for starter
                          5.Wiring changes.
                          6.One-way clutch for starter
                          ...
                          ........
                          ...........
                          etc.

                          Is it possible ?
                          Is there any kit available ?
                          Has anyone done this ever ?


                          Please Help me.
                          Yes theoretically it is possible but there are many difficulties :-
                          1. The pro model comes with reverse magnet i.e like cbz with the coil placed on its outside with 8 poles of coil. That is the reason pro, cd deluxe and new model hero bikes come with much better and brighter headlight. So you need to change the magnet, coil base, outer magnet cover. Please have a look when a pro is opened. It has two piece cover for magnet and front sprocket.
                          2. Even if you change the coil base there is no cdi charging coil and the pulsar coil is also different so your ignition timing will be out. Also the new model are coming with DC cdi and yours is AC cdi so not possible.
                          4. New models have maximum power @ 7500 rpm and maximum torque@ 4500 rpm and yours have maximum power @ 8000 rpm and maximum torque @ 5000 rpm. So new models have better initial pick-up and are great to ride in city but on highways then feel strained at anything above 60. So cdi change is not possible as it will change the ignition curve and your bike will not feel good.
                          5. You have to change the left crankcase cover for accommodating the self and thus will require complete opening of the engine. Don't open it if it is working perfectly.
                          So don't think about going for self as it will ruin the reliability of the bike.
                          Old model engines like splendor,joy have great comfort on highway due to power curve higher in the rev range. So don't go for all these changes.
                          Splendor models engine requires on 1/4th of kick for starting so no need of going for self.
                          Photo of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/854067-post963.html-3.88 lac km cont....Ownership review of my joy- http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/832255-post608.html- slowly updating as and when getting time. HERO HONDA CBZ EXTREME(2011) - 47K KM AND COUNTINGhttp://www.xbhp.com/talkies/motorcyc...tml#post904152-carb tuning guide

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                          • Originally posted by sibun View Post
                            Yes theoretically it is possible but there are many difficulties :-
                            1. The pro model comes with reverse magnet i.e like cbz with the coil placed on its outside with 8 poles of coil. That is the reason pro, cd deluxe and new model hero bikes come with much better and brighter headlight. So you need to change the magnet, coil base, outer magnet cover. Please have a look when a pro is opened. It has two piece cover for magnet and front sprocket.
                            2. Even if you change the coil base there is no cdi charging coil and the pulsar coil is also different so your ignition timing will be out. Also the new model are coming with DC cdi and yours is AC cdi so not possible.
                            4. New models have maximum power @ 7500 rpm and maximum torque@ 4500 rpm and yours have maximum power @ 8000 rpm and maximum torque @ 5000 rpm. So new models have better initial pick-up and are great to ride in city but on highways then feel strained at anything above 60. So cdi change is not possible as it will change the ignition curve and your bike will not feel good.
                            5. You have to change the left crankcase cover for accommodating the self and thus will require complete opening of the engine. Don't open it if it is working perfectly.
                            So don't think about going for self as it will ruin the reliability of the bike.
                            Old model engines like splendor,joy have great comfort on highway due to power curve higher in the rev range. So don't go for all these changes.
                            Splendor models engine requires on 1/4th of kick for starting so no need of going for self.
                            Thanks for clearing my doubt and explaining it so clearly.

                            Long time back,I have seen pro having coil plate on cover and magnet is inverted as in 150cc bikes,
                            It has two covers -one for coil and the rear for sproket cover.
                            but I never knew that it has DC Cdi .
                            I also noticed that RR is just beside the battery and not under the fuel tank.

                            BTW How much does a new engine cost ? Just wanted to know the aprox. price.

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                            • Ok,lets leave the self start.

                              What about having a tachometer ?
                              I think this is very much possible because we can figure out the RPM pulse/signal wire from cdi but
                              What about the instrument cluster ? Has anyone tried this ?

                              Please Help me .

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                              • Hi everyone, I am new here.
                                I have a 10 year old splendor(my brother's). Its been 2 years since i used this bike. Back in those days it was riding smoothly and perfectly. I recently noted this problem when i was riding the bike in the highway. The speed never goes above 50kmph. And the engine sounds like it is using its maximum to go in the speed. Also there is a tiny vibration not much. Its nothing like due to top speed and all. What could be the problem? any idea?

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