My Friend,

Don't bother too much about that oil level you see through the glass. I too see the oil level sometimes high sometimes low. If you break your head on these things you will not get a good night sleep

As long as the engine is topped up with approx 2.5 liters during service you should be good. With the amount of oil drips I have the oil level never goes below normal - of-course all these city riding bumper traffic. Just make it a point to religiously check engine oil level every 1000Kms.

The picture you just clicked is shocking to me. If you were in Hyderabad I could show you the right mechanic. You need to use your skills and get them fix your issue. The service centers are as I have quoted earlier - a disaster to the brand.

If you can find a good UCE mechanic in your locality please use that option. Make some friends

Edit: I clicked some pictures for you. I returned like 2 hours back and the engine oil level is still showing. Its very hot here so the cooling takes time. If you look at my engine which is 12700Kms old, there is no oil leak like the ones you have. Just a few here and there I intend to fix in the coming days.

And yes, someone here was asking about the Dunlop Tires. I replaced them today for 2000/- 3 Years Unconditional Warranty.



Take care
Ride safe.

Thanks Buddy!!! So the oil leak that my bike has is something that is worrisome. I had done some R&D on mechanics in Pune for RE and have few names. Will show my bike to one of them and not entirely depend on the AS*.

There were couple of colleagues who also bought their TBTS along with me from the same dealer. Apparently its only my bike that has this problems. All others are spotless clean engines.

The Dunlop tyres look good. Over the period, do let us know your review on the same.

take care and ride safely
Rajesh

I went to a car shop today to fit new headlights for my swift. I told him i want to fit philips xtreme vision or osram nightbreaker 60/55w for my RE thunderbird. He told me you can directly fit these or you can fix a relay and use philips essential power 100/90w. My question is how much point relay do we need and will 100/90w burn stock reflector?

Speaking about changing oil in engine. Recently i went to a local garage to fill new engine oil at that time i got a shock of my life. Like normally the mechanic opened the nut at the bottom of the engine and black oil started flowing out. He asked me how much does your bike need oil i said 2.75 ltr he told me this is only approx 1.5 ltr which has drained out i said it can't be. He bought a measuring cylinder and poured in the engine oil which had drained out it was approx 1.5 ltr I asked so where is the rest of engine oil he told me that the rest of engine oil is in gear box. Me totally confused i said this is new UCE engine the gear box is concealed in the engine itselt not like old RE engine where gearbox is out of engine. To prove me wrong he opened the screws at the bottom left side of the engine as shown in picture marked as '1' and to my surprise the rest of engine oil poured out. Again measured it was approx 2.5 ltrs, me more confused. So he started filling the oil only 1.5 ltr went in and the oil monitor window showed full so he opened a nut on the left side of the engine as shown in picture marked as '2' and he poured in the rest of engine oil. I asked why are you pouring the rest of engine oil from here, he told me the rest of engine oil will go directly in gearbox from here. What he was saying, "it is true the gearbox is concealed in engine unit but the filling of engine oil is from 2 entry points not 1 entry point". I guess most of you guys might be doing oil changing at home only, I what to know what is your experience while changing engine oil in TBTS? I mean is the process what he did is correct or wrong?

@rahul2880, Recently when I went to AS* to drain out the oil from my TBTS and fill the correct grade oil, he did exactly what your mechanic did. I too was slightly confused on the same. But he did fill in oil at point 2 shown in the attached picture in your post.

take care and drive safely
Rajesh

I have 2005 ThunderBird, the inner side of clutch case is broken & i am unable to find a new inner clutch case, please help me to find a new clutchcase for my T-Bird, I am from Delhi.

In my opinion 100/90w is an over kill. You could go for a 35W or 60W HID instead if you want so much light. To answer your question I do not know if the stock reflector can take the heat. As far as I know you will also have to change the bulb holders to Ceramic types. Because the plastic holder that is in the bull right now would melt with the heat generated by 100/90W

Please check this guy from Delhi Royal Enfield Zone - Distributors and Exporters of Royal Enfield Bikes, Spare Parts and Accessories from New Delhi, India :: :: :: :: Extensive range of spares and accessories for Royal Enfield Bullet, Electra, Machismo, Thunderbird, Standard he seems to have spare parts for RE. Thats all the info I have.

Dude you seriously have some oil lickage issue. My thunderbird also did not show me that kind of lick till now. I think your oil seal is gone.
Remember one thing dude. If your bullet is under warranty, then dont ever go to a local mechanic . If the service center guys finds out, then your warranty will get void. SO give your bike to an authorised service center, and wait till your bike's servicing is complete. Your problem will be solved.

But i have a doubt here ..... Did you show your bike to the authorised service center about this issue ???

I dont know why every one here is so much interested to go to a local mechanic rather than the autorised service center.

I did not find the service center of bangalore ( at BTM ) any way bad.
What i feel is that a person has to have patience and wait till their bike gets serviced.

I did take my bike to AS* to show them the oil leakage. After seen by supervisor, he suggested to get it worked during the second service when its at least 800 kms away (The odo was only 1100+). When I asked him why this may have happened when I did not exceed the speed limited and the rev limit during the entire ride, his response was the pressure may have increased due to the long ride. I don't buy this answer for the reason - a) bike was always within speed and rev limits. b) I had at least 8 stops in the 350km ride in 10 hours. Why would this increase pressure as much to have this kind of oil leak.

I went on a small ride to test the leakage again (120+) kms last weekend. There is a leak, enough to wet the fins, but no oil dripping or drops on the ground.

I intend to take bike to Matheran over the weekend again. @120 Kms one way. I am carrying a litre of oil just for contingency and hoping that it may not be needed. Once I am back, I would be almost at 2000kms and will give the bike for second service.

take care and ride safely

Rajesh

Here's my first service experience:

1. Asked for oil and oil filter change
2. Asked for fixing petrol leakage from fuel cap
3. Asked for adjusting the focus of the head lamp - being too close currently.

Here's what I get back

1. Oil and oil filter changed. Oil seemed to be of same colour as earlier. Could not check for oil filter.
2. Petrol leakage - not resolved. I still have some issues with the same
3. Headlight beam focus - a very simple task. Not done.

During the billing, I found out that the job card was missing. They finally created a new one in front of me to complete billing process.

As said in my earlier mail, after showing the oil leak, advisor told me that would be corrected in second service which was almost 800kms away.

All the above does not inspire any confidence on the AS*.

But they for sure use MOTUL oil which is good I must say.

take care and ride safely

Rajesh

Dear Rajesh

From which service station you got your Bull serviced?
Are you from Mumbai?
I also have received my TBTS just 2 days back and I will most probably take it to the Kandivali service station.
Anybody from Mumbai, please advice about this Kandivali service centre!

Hey Surajit,

Nobody here wants to send our precious bikes to a local mechanic while under warranty. The urge comes only when our Authorized service centers do not do the job well. Call it our incapacity to make them do their job or whatever. That is not the way I as a customer would like to operate. Telling them how to do their jobs?

If my bull had a 30000Kms or 3 Year warranty, yes, I would have patience. You see, the first and second service goes good as usual. When issues start popping up and you tell the Service centers, they will drag the issue till you meager 1 year or 10000Kms warranty is over. I completed 10K kilometers in 8 months. Yes, the warranty of my bike was over in 8 months. And mind you, warranty is only for Engine and chassis. Everything else is not covered.

We can only have that much patience as the warranty provided. Some after sales service may be very good, as yours, I am very happy to hear that. I hope we see more and more good service centers.



Enjoy your ride.
Be safe.

I think you should escalate this to the higher officials. It really helpful.
And man i have already covered 9000 in 4 moths :-D
And what i know is that your electrical parts ( except your bulbs) are covered under warranty.
And one small suggestion just find out a guy in the service center, make a good rapo with him, and you will find your bike to be perfect all the times



What you said happens in every other service center. Its not only about bullets. The fact is if you have a problem, then you should go back to them and get it fixed. And about your oil, you cannot understand if the oil had been changed or not by the colour. If you cannot believe on the people in the service center, then sit at the service center while your bike gets serviced.
Its all about the believe.
If you are not happy with the service center, then call up the chennai office, get the regional manager for service number, call them up, and report everything. You wont believe what may follow. Just try this.

I also had all these problems.
In last 5 years I owned 5 bikes. I have seen the service centers of all.
I had Pulsar 220 also. You wont believe that i had to change my clutch plate twice within a span of 500kms. But i did complain to the higher officials, and got the money back with a full service free including the parts.

You just have to seat back and watch your bullet man while getting serviced.
I always do the same and till now its ok for me

This was my email to customer support after service center were not able to resolve my engine problem. The below email got attention of Regional service manager & territory service manager(mumbai).

I state that the Company headed by you has fraudulently sold the 350 CC Tunderbird Twinspark Motor Cycle, which is in entirely defective.
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The said vehicle was delivered to me on 2nd July, 2011. As per the manual instructions while starting the motorcycle first time in the day pull the choke, use the kick start to start the motorcycle, warm up the engine by running it idle for 1 minute, close the choke and ride. I followed these instructions religiously from day one but i found that everytime when i start the motorcycle i had to pull choke warm up the engine then only ride if i dont follow this the motorcycle won't start run it used to start but used to shut down with a jerk. So i mentioned this problem at my first service, the service station guys did some adjustment and the problem was gone for a week again the problem cropped up after one week. I blamed on the weather that might be weather is cold since it was rainy and followed by cold winter in mumbai i might be facing this problem, in the mean time a friend of mine bought electra twinspark i asked him and he said that he did not face such problem at that point i was sure that there is some problem with my bike. I again mentioned the problem to service station people about this problem at my 4th service, they kept the bike for a day, started the motorcycle at various points in a day and found the problem what i was mentioning. Again they played with some adjustments to the engine and the problem was gone for one month this time.
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Now one fine day my motorcycle stopped and refused to start i pushed my bike to nearest garage and he checked and told me the spark plug has become carbon black and shorted, he told me that immediately take the motorcycle to company you have some serious engine issues. He will not touch the engine since it is under warranty and he gave me two spare spark plugs for emergency. In the strech of 15 kms all the three spark plugs were carbon blacked and shorted finally i reached the service station somehow and told this problem to the mechanic. He told me that keep the motorcycle and he will check. The service station called me after one week and told me the bike is ready. I reached asked him what is the problem he told me the bike engine had some issues the parts under doubt were replaced. I asked what parts were changed he vaguely answered timing gear, rings etc. I said okay took the bike and started to come home after riding for few kms. bike started to give jerks and came to stand still and refused to start. Pushed the bike again to service station and told them the problem is not resolved he told me they will check. Kept the bike at service station for another 2 days and called me the bike is ready. Went and asked him what is the problem he told me the engine some adjustment since new timing gear was placed, he confirmed me that the problem will not crop again. I said ok and went home rode the bike for one week and again the same problem came bike started jerking and came to stand still and refuse to start towed the bike to service station this time i was in middle of highway.Told the mechanic the problem is not solved he checked the bike was misfiring.The bike is now lying at service staion for further operation.
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The service station guys are hard scratching there what exactly the problem might be but not able to resolve. The bike just used for 2811 kms. everythime i had to shell out 60 to 70 rupees to rickshaw to reach service station from my home or office. I mean what is going on, i had never faced such problem with my previous bajaj bikes. This whole thing is causing me financial losses and mental agony. I have paid my hard earned 1.25 lakhs to you and you are giving me this lousy metal piece. I am really pissed off with Royal Enfield my dream bike has become my nightmare bike. My sincere request to you is to replace the vehicle / pay back my money / drag the motorcycle to your chennai factory check it thoroughly and send it back to me.* I want concrete results with my bike this time or i will drag Royal Enfield to consumer court.
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Please confirm your understanding by return mail.
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A disgruntled buyer.

After narrating my problem to the higher officials they told me problem is not with engine it is with electricals!!! Current status bike is at service station for last 15 days and finally the problem is that the engine head needs to be replaced because of manufacturing defect.