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  • #11971
    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

    Originally posted by sounakray View Post
    This is precisely the reason why I rejected the R15 v2, even though it was initially my primary choice The 6th cog is a really important addition though!

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    • #11972
      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

      Originally posted by red_karizma_zmr View Post
      Did another 150 km highway ride today. Awesome. The bike feels rock-solid. Initially, @ around 200km, when I took out my bike for my 1st highway outing, it'd wobble horribly @ speeds of 70+. But, now after 1300km, it has become rock solid & feels firmly planted on the ground even @ 100+. The bike has become more vibration-free now. But, I wonder if it needed a 6th gear. One can feel too much screaming from the engine @ speeds of 100+. But, thats where the 223cc helps I guess.

      Now, it feels like below 90 speeds are puny for this bike. 100+ is where it belongs to. Also, u don't know when u hit those speeds until u see the speedo. But, the ZMR does 115 with ease. After that, It'll take its own sweet time to reach higher speeds. Its like 116...117....118....119... Reached 121 kmph today.

      Also, I heard that during cold temp., the bikes power output actually remains unharmed. While during hot temp, the bike's actual power o/p decreases. Is it true? That explains why I'm finding my ZMR to be extra powerful these days.

      P.S.: Saw an R15 v2.0 rider stopping his bike on the side of the highway & stretching out his back & neck muscles while I zoomed past him. lol
      You are getting addicted to the ZMR's engine....soon you will find other bikes Raw and Ill Mannered......(Except old Ninja 650).In cold climate, the air is dense and so Oxygen level will be higher..., than in higher Temp., which is why the engine feels more power and is smooth.. Check your Tire pressure before any long journey and keep it 1~2 PSi less than recommended, to compensate for tire heating during the run...esp., in Summer months.
      The ZMA / ZMR is already over geared in 5th gear at 0.8 , which is why you cannot redline the bike in top gear .
      When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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      • #11973
        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

        Originally posted by psr View Post
        You are getting addicted to the ZMR's engine....soon you will find other bikes Raw and Ill Mannered......(Except old Ninja 650).In cold climate, the air is dense and so Oxygen level will be higher..., than in higher Temp., which is why the engine feels more power and is smooth.. Check your Tire pressure before any long journey and keep it 1~2 PSi less than recommended, to compensate for tire heating during the run...esp., in Summer months.
        The ZMA / ZMR is already over geared in 5th gear at 0.8 , which is why you cannot redline the bike in top gear .
        Very true sir. The only bike I felt which made my ZMR sound harsh engine-wise was the Honda Unicorn. It was butter smooth. Don't know if the current Unicorns are as smooth.
        Also, I find 4th and 5th as overdrive in the Karizmas. Its awesome pull till 3rd and 4th gets a bit sublime and then 5th is smooth bliss!
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        ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
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        • #11974
          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          Very true sir. The only bike I felt which made my ZMR sound harsh engine-wise was the Honda Unicorn. It was butter smooth. Don't know if the current Unicorns are as smooth.
          Also, I find 4th and 5th as overdrive in the Karizmas. Its awesome pull till 3rd and 4th gets a bit sublime and then 5th is smooth bliss!
          Absolutely a point to agree on.. The ZMR sounds harsh at higher RPMs if I am correct where as the Unicorn is butter smooth and the engine noise is very low..
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          • #11975
            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

            Originally posted by psr View Post
            You are getting addicted to the ZMR's engine....soon you will find other bikes Raw and Ill Mannered......(Except old Ninja 650).In cold climate, the air is dense and so Oxygen level will be higher..., than in higher Temp., which is why the engine feels more power and is smooth.. Check your Tire pressure before any long journey and keep it 1~2 PSi less than recommended, to compensate for tire heating during the run...esp., in Summer months.
            The ZMA / ZMR is already over geared in 5th gear at 0.8 , which is why you cannot redline the bike in top gear .
            Exactly, I ride my neighbour's CBR250 sometimes. At low speeds I find it to be horrible. The engine sounds terrible (It might be though because it was from the 1st batch in 2010/11, so I'll reserve my comments). I feel the bike is not made for speeds upto 40 kmph. Its for speeds higher than that. But, the CBR 250 acceleration is heavenly & super smooth & must admit way better than ZMR. Engine sound also changes at high speeds & becomes smoother & smoother. Its like it loves higher speeds rather than being stuck @ a lower speed!!! But, ergonomics & comfort-wise wise ZMR is way better. [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] sir maybe I'm really getting addicted to iit's (ZMR's) engine!!

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            Originally posted by RaajD View Post
            hmm....subjective I would say. If you don't sit as per the ergonomics of a bike, your posture is bound to make you get down and stretch at short intervals – be it R15 V2, the ZMR, or the Ninja 650R.
            & I don't think one can tire oneself due to back pain atleast in ZMR (maybe due to wind-resistance or other reasons but surely not back pain)
            Last edited by red_karizma_zmr; 12-05-2013, 12:09 PM.
            Not perfect- Forever Forgiven..

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            • #11976
              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

              Just bought Castrol Dot4 Brake Fluid - review please... Bought a 250ml container, will it be ok for for both front and rear oil?? Any special drainage procedure needs to followed??

              Will wait for your feedback..

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              • #11977
                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                Just bought Castrol Dot4 Brake Fluid - review please... Bought a 250ml container, will it be ok for for both front and rear oil?? Any special drainage procedure needs to followed??

                Will wait for your feedback..
                Would suffice. Read this and follow it to the T!

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                http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/do-yourself/21050-brake-fluid-replacing-brake-bleeding-rtr180.html
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                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                • #11978
                  Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                  Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                  Just bought Castrol Dot4 Brake Fluid - review please... Bought a 250ml container, will it be ok for for both front and rear oil?? Any special drainage procedure needs to followed??

                  Will wait for your feedback..
                  Watch this or any other video on youtube. Will be more convenient.
                  Maintenance: How To Change Your Brake Fluid(1998 Honda CBR 600 F3) - YouTube
                  Not perfect- Forever Forgiven..

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                  • #11979
                    Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                    Originally posted by red_karizma_zmr View Post
                    Watch this or any other video on youtube. Will be more convenient.
                    Maintenance: How To Change Your Brake Fluid(1998 Honda CBR 600 F3) - YouTube
                    Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                    Would suffice. Read this and follow it to the T!

                    http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/do-yours...ng-rtr180.html

                    Thanks for all the suggestions.. But is it same procedure that the Service guys follows?? As I am not doing it myself, my mechanic is pretty good with rest of the stuffs, never had any complains with his work..

                    Hope he knows the stuff..

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                    • #11980
                      Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                      Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                      Thanks for all the suggestions.. But is it same procedure that the Service guys follows?? As I am not doing it myself, my mechanic is pretty good with rest of the stuffs, never had any complains with his work..

                      Hope he knows the stuff..
                      If your mech has worked on newer bikes (post 2005, that have discs as standard - pulsars, karizmas etc), he'd be knowing this stuff.
                      Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                      Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                      Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                      Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                      ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                      P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                      • #11981
                        Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                        Originally posted by red_karizma_zmr View Post
                        P.S.: Saw an R15 v2.0 rider stopping his bike on the side of the highway & stretching out his back & neck muscles while I zoomed past him. lol
                        I like to to take a breather every hour on the highway. While the ZMA is very smooth, one tends to lose focus with the constant speed on the highway after a while.
                        I took [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION]'s advise on my first long trip, stopped every hour for a couple minutes to relax, stretch or have a sip of water, and it's habit now. Of course, different riders might have different endurance points or so. All I'm saying is it's not a bad thing to stop once in a while and smell the daisies (flowers) .

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                        • #11982
                          Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                          Originally posted by AK3D View Post
                          I like to to take a breather every hour on the highway. While the ZMA is very smooth, one tends to lose focus with the constant speed on the highway after a while.
                          I took @psr's advise on my first long trip, stopped every hour for a couple minutes to relax, stretch or have a sip of water, and it's habit now. Of course, different riders might have different endurance points or so. All I'm saying is it's not a bad thing to stop once in a while and smell the daisies (flowers) .
                          Agreed. At the end, it is not the ride but the rider. I can cruise all day without a break, but my friend cannot ride for a long time. The sitting posture varies from person to person and that is the main reason for back pain. I sit in a relaxed posture having my back bent a little and after some time i keep my back straight. I adjust to what my back needs and i never had a pain during the ride but yes, I do take breaks to cool my ride and at that time, I do stretch myself that would be every 100-120 kms. I don't want to screw my bike of course
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                          Ninja 250R (2010) - 2016 til now
                          RayZ - 2015 til now
                          Ninja 650 (2014) - 2017 til now


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                          • #11983
                            Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                            Originally posted by AK3D View Post
                            All I'm saying is it's not a bad thing to stop once in a while and smell the daisies (flowers) .
                            Rule of thumb for me:
                            Whether tired or not, stop for 20 odd mins every 100 kms. Works wonders during long rides of 600+ kms in a day. While others start complaining of this pain that pain after 300-350 kms, I have no such issues due to ample rest every 100 kms and sometimes for photography.
                            Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                            Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                            Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                            Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                            ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                            P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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                            • #11984
                              Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                              Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                              If your mech has worked on newer bikes (post 2005, that have discs as standard - pulsars, karizmas etc), he'd be knowing this stuff.
                              He is hardly 30, so I assume his career might have started around 2005 or later... And AFAIK he is trained from ZRM by HERO (when it was Hero Honda)... I might be thinking too much..

                              Just for info what if air gets in the circuit, what is way to release it???

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                              • #11985
                                Re: Hero Honda Karizma ZMR

                                Originally posted by antan_shank View Post
                                Just for info what if air gets in the circuit, what is way to release it???
                                We BLEED the brakes just for this reason. I'm hopefully sure your mech must know this because discs came in early 2000s!

                                Brake bleeding - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
                                Got a $5 head? Get a $5 helmet.
                                Because everyone who passes, isn't a martyr!

                                Bullet Service Guide CBR 250R Parts Manual Fz16 service manual - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1-...VFQmJzakk/view
                                Hero Moto Corp Bikes' Parts RE STD 350 Wiring Diagram (CI) Service Manual - Classic 350/500
                                ZMR parts - https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-U...it?usp=sharing
                                P200NS Spares' prices - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...taGd5R2c#gid=0

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