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**remortr** · 09-07-2010, 12:16 AM

@sunny9830687955
its time to decarbonize the engine &no need to change the valve but u have to lap the valves for perfect seating Then valve oilseals must replaced & have to check rings (especially oil rings) this is enough for next 20'000kms

**kk_RTR** · 09-07-2010, 08:36 AM

Originally posted by sunny9830687955 View Post

is it possible that the debris which gets deposits in the pump passes with the flow of petrol from pump to fuel filter and then clogs the injector ??
if yes then what should I do to prevent this ?? and what are the signs to understand that the injector needs to be clean more over
yesterday went for a ride with my fellow kol xbhpians for around 90-90 = 180 kms and when I was cruising at around 80-90 and some time doing 100 kmph my friend found white smoke was coming out from exhaust

though the amount of smoke was less after that I stopped and even in standing position if I rev hard then also smoke was coming out

I am confuse

what could be the prob, few guys are suggesting me to get the injector clean, bike is not even running in lean. bike done 18789km and petrol using is extra premium. the svc guys are telling me to get piston cylinder head decarbonised and to replace the valves

and when I am saying to clean the injector , they r just avoiding and saying cleaning is not needed

guys please need help
thanks in advance brothers

The SVC guys are correct. The white smoke doesnt have anything to do with the fuel injector. White smoke is the sign of fried valve seats. Check it whether you need to replace the valves or just the valve seats.

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

Yes, pump isn't a filter,if any micro particle which escaped from the filter will be thrown at the injector.
To get your injector safe from all this replace the fuel filter at every 4500-5000kms.

It does have a filter element.

**haxor** · 09-07-2010, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

Yes, pump isn't a filter,if any micro particle which escaped from the filter will be thrown at the injector.
To get your injector safe from all this replace the fuel filter at every 4500-5000kms.

Even I heard that the smoke may come from the exhaust due to the steel wool kinda thing in the exhuast!

**abhiwar** · 09-07-2010, 03:04 PM

Fuel Pump

After searching a lot on Internet i got more confused about ++in humming sound on my bike's Fuel Pump so finally i decided to call TVS and ask reason for this fuel pump issue and guess what i got reply that our fuel pump has life of 2lacks kms and they are well tested before Pump is installed in our RTR-EFI .And there are almost 0 chances of fuel pump failure. Yaaayyyyyy...>!

m feeling so relax after i heard this .
And they told me that due to chocked fuel filter ur getting this increased noise from Fuel pump . chocked fuel filter disturbs fuel flow and it puts extra load on pump...so CULPRIT is Chocked FUEL FILTER...

feeewwwww........!!!!

**rennycornelius** · 09-07-2010, 03:32 PM

Originally posted by haxor View Post

Even I heard that the smoke may come from the exhaust due to the steel wool kinda thing in the exhuast!

Not "Steel Wool", it's glass wool, used to iron down the noice,and it wont produce white smoke, infact it never produces any smoke when it gets fcuked over the period of time.

Originally posted by abhiwar View Post

i got reply that our fuel pump has life of 2lacks kms and they are well tested before Pump is installed in our RTR-EFI .And there are almost 0 chances of fuel pump failure. so CULPRIT is Chocked FUEL FILTER.

Well that was a news!

2 lakh kms sound a lot..

Replace that fuel filter every 5000kms.

**haxor** · 09-07-2010, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

Not "Steel Wool", it's glass wool, used to iron down the noice,and it wont produce white smoke, infact it never produces any smoke when it gets fcuked over the period of time.

Well that was a news!

2 lakh kms sound a lot..

Replace that fuel filter every 5000kms.

Yeah..but a member of xbhp forgot his name
his p180 also suffered from this and had to change his exhaust

**onlinesatish** · 09-07-2010, 03:48 PM

FInally, got the RTR 180 Rear fender installed on my bike. it really saved my bag and my jacket from all the muck and slush!

Did a 580kms ride on sunday......avg was around 37kmpl....hit 134kmph once. Touched 130kmph after 31 march 2008. Motul 300V was excellent...it almost elliminated all the vibes....it was fun to ride. One stage i almost covered 100kms under an hour!

My bike crossed 55k kms mark! Time to change the rear tyre and chain kit.(chani lasted only for 11k kms this time

)

**nox2505** · 09-07-2010, 06:52 PM

What if i short the both the +ves (lighting and charging) coming out of stock RR unit and give them to +ve of battery and lamp?
Will the two coils will work as power sources in parallel to supply 55/60 headlamp?

@Satish: How many times you got Your engine Decarbed?

**rennycornelius** · 09-07-2010, 08:10 PM

Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post

FInally, got the RTR 180 Rear fender installed on my bike. it really saved my bag and my jacket from all the muck and slush!

Did a 580kms ride on sunday......avg was around 37kmpl....hit 134kmph once. Touched 130kmph after 31 march 2008. Motul 300V was excellent...it almost elliminated all the vibes....it was fun to ride. One stage i almost covered 100kms under an hour!

My bike crossed 55k kms mark! Time to change the rear tyre and chain kit.(chani lasted only for 11k kms this time

)

finally u got it fitted...

How much you paid for that extra flap at the rear fender????

Bike looks all good for 55000,any major works done in the engine satish??

Seems like i have to change my chain too, will post it's pic tomorrow.

**haxor** · 09-07-2010, 08:48 PM

I will also change the rear fender this winter...saving up my pocket money for that!

**sunny9830687955** · 09-07-2010, 09:57 PM

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

Yes, pump isn't a filter,if any micro particle which escaped from the filter will be thrown at the injector.
To get your injector safe from all this replace the fuel filter at every 4500-5000kms.

ok will replace my fuel filter asap and lets see...

Originally posted by remortr View Post

@sunny9830687955
its time to decarbonize the engine &no need to change the valve but u have to lap the valves for perfect seating Then valve oilseals must replaced & have to check rings (especially oil rings) this is enough for next 20'000kms

[QUOTE=kk_RTR;489647]The SVC guys are correct. The white smoke doesnt have anything to do with the fuel injector. White smoke is the sign of fried valve seats. Check it whether you need to replace the valves or just the valve seats.

even in owners manual it is written that after 18000km decarbonization is needed but do you know that what are the things needs to be replaced in engine and what kind of work needs to be done in engine to decarbonize it as svc guys saying that piston rings are also needs to replaced

that means the whole engine needs to open up

Originally posted by haxor View Post

Even I heard that the smoke may come from the exhaust due to the steel wool kinda thing in the exhuast!

if you pour some oil in exhausts then white smoke comes out from the exhausts, generally Ive seen few owners of pulsars ( classic & ug I & II ) used to pour some amount of oil in the exhausts as to prevent the exhausts from getting rust or if the piston is kaput then also smoke comes out

Originally posted by abhiwar View Post

After searching a lot on Internet i got more confused about ++in humming sound on my bike's Fuel Pump so finally i decided to call TVS and ask reason for this fuel pump issue and guess what i got reply that our fuel pump has life of 2lacks kms and they are well tested before Pump is installed in our RTR-EFI .And there are almost 0 chances of fuel pump failure. Yaaayyyyyy...>!

m feeling so relax after i heard this .
And they told me that due to chocked fuel filter ur getting this increased noise from Fuel pump . chocked fuel filter disturbs fuel flow and it puts extra load on pump...so CULPRIT is Chocked FUEL FILTER...

feeewwwww........!!!!

boss do you have any official no. or contact of any tvs engineers who I call and ask if I am facing any problem and moreover I don't believe TVS svc guys as they always ask me to keep the bike for 2-3 days and after that they ask for another 2-3 days even for tuning which is 5 min work, they ask me to keep my bike for one day

as it is FI so it need time WTF

**onlinesatish** · 09-08-2010, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by nox2505 View Post

@Satish: How many times you got Your engine Decarbed?

Once! at 35k kms!

Originally posted by rennycornelius View Post

finally u got it fitted...

How much you paid for that extra flap at the rear fender????

Bike looks all good for 55000,any major works done in the engine satish??

Seems like i have to change my chain too, will post it's pic tomorrow.

Rear flap was around 75rs-90rs. Fitting the entire mudgaurd is such a pain in the ass. Aligment is'nt proper though...its a bit twisted ti the right side....did'nt bother to fix it though!

Entire set came upto 650rs

No major works done in my engine till date....everything is stock...touchwood

Just kidding!

AFAI Remember

Carb's changed at 3k kms
Entire cylinder block and carb changed at 3.5k kms
Clutch kit changed at 15k kms
Cam chain changed thrice at approx 25k, 32k and 40k kms
Clutch kit changed at 45k kms
Cylinder head changed at 42k kms
Bore kit changed at 45k kms
Crank changed twice
Silencer changed once
Speedo changed twice at 3k kms and at 15k kms
Chain sprocket changed twice (have to now change it again)
Front tyre changed twice
Rear tyre (lost count, have to change it now)

And lot of minor stuff's like valve's(changed twice), one way clutch(lost count), Valve springs were also changed....lost all the counts!

had lots of problems with my bike till abt 40k kms......its doing good since the last 15k kms.....engine has'nt been open for the last 3 service!

**abhiwar** · 09-08-2010, 01:11 AM

[QUOTE=sunny9830687955;490057]ok will replace my fuel filter asap and lets see...

Originally posted by kk_RTR View Post

boss do you have any official no. or contact of any tvs engineers who I call and ask if I am facing any problem and moreover I don't believe TVS svc guys as they always ask me to keep the bike for 2-3 days and after that they ask for another 2-3 days even for tuning which is 5 min work, they ask me to keep my bike for one day

as it is FI so it need time WTF

yes i do have a NO . well exactly he's not engg from tvs but he's head(not owner ) of 2-3SVC's in mumbai and has decent knowledge. What kinda tuning they do on Efi..? i mean in past 42k kms i hardly remember that my mech connected my bike to comp as it was never needed...and just to tune it thru Comp if they ask u to wait for 2-3 days its not good

**nox2505** · 09-08-2010, 09:28 AM

Originally posted by onlinesatish View Post

Once! at 35k kms!

Rear flap was around 75rs-90rs. Fitting the entire mudgaurd is such a pain in the ass. Aligment is'nt proper though...its a bit twisted ti the right side....did'nt bother to fix it though!

Entire set came upto 650rs

No major works done in my engine till date....everything is stock...touchwood

Just kidding!

AFAI Remember

Carb's changed at 3k kms
Entire cylinder block and carb changed at 3.5k kms
Clutch kit changed at 15k kms
Cam chain changed thrice at approx 25k, 32k and 40k kms
Clutch kit changed at 45k kms
Cylinder head changed at 42k kms
Bore kit changed at 45k kms
Crank changed twice
Silencer changed once
Speedo changed twice at 3k kms and at 15k kms
Chain sprocket changed twice (have to now change it again)
Front tyre changed twice
Rear tyre (lost count, have to change it now)

And lot of minor stuff's like valve's(changed twice), one way clutch(lost count), Valve springs were also changed....lost all the counts!

had lots of problems with my bike till abt 40k kms......its doing good since the last 15k kms.....engine has'nt been open for the last 3 service!

Can you mention about approx bill or warranty?

**remortr** · 09-08-2010, 11:21 AM

@sunny9830687955
No need to open full engine, only the head assy and linear no need to seperate the crank case or else,Btw their is no harm to dismantle the head after done 18-20000kms its must after done all jobs perfect be to right fitting of the engine thats all

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