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  • Originally posted by pranay View Post
    You would never want to lock up the front disk unless you want to pull off a stoppie or fall down. But it is a tricky thing as you would want responsive brakes at the front. So, again, it is still an experimentation if you put it at the front, and only test reports like Prabhakar's will tell if it is a good idea at the front disk.
    I had been observing the whole setup since the day it got installed, and I am very much satisfied with the results (this is only for the installation at the rear disc), and my main observation is the rear braking distance has increased, and if the same thing happens with the front disk , it will not be good.... (I am just hinting in this aspect... )

    I agree with Pranay, but what I meant was that, Just in case, if the ABS kit fails, the result could be bad, as we don't have any reliability standard for these after market accessories, and keep a note that these are mechanical one's and doesnot have any microprocessor control (afaik, this is what is used in cars)... and this will be less risky on the rear brake compared to the front one....

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    • Originally posted by rakowli View Post
      what will happen if ABS fails. I doubt it will work as the normal disc brake. ABS is to stop locking up of the wheels. So if it fails the wheels will start locking up when you brake. i don't think there will be any other diaster like brake failure. we are using the all the bikes without ABS till now so we know how to use it without ABS. am i right. THIS is as per my knowledge what i have read. i maybe wrong.
      correct me if i am.

      May be it will a problem for those who ride it rash and fast. Your judgement will go for a toss.
      This device limits the brake oil pressure in the caliper assy. I feel when a device like this goes for a toss, the brake oil pressure will go for a toss. May be a seal somewhere may rupture. In that case, total brake failure. It basically depends upon how the device is designed.
      Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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      • Originally posted by rakowli View Post
        what will happen if ABS fails. I doubt it will work as the normal disc brake. ABS is to stop locking up of the wheels. So if it fails the wheels will start locking up when you brake. i don't think there will be any other diaster like brake failure. we are using the all the bikes without ABS till now so we know how to use it without ABS. am i right. THIS is as per my knowledge what i have read. i maybe wrong.
        correct me if i am.

        May be it will a problem for those who ride it rash and fast. Your judgement will go for a toss.
        If there is some damage in the internals of the ABS kit and got jammed, there will be no pressure applied on the pad's resulting in the brake failure, and it may be a problem for normal riders as well, if the bike loses control...

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        • @ Rishie

          Did U change the Brake oil as well???
          My cost included that also.

          Only The ABS unit cost me 2294 a pair!!

          Well Failure part & Brake Distance let me check tonight again before I confirm anything.
          I'll change the front tomorrow early morning!!
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          • Originally posted by Prabhakar View Post
            @ Rishie

            Did U change the Brake oil as well???
            My cost included that also.

            Only The ABS unit cost me 2294 a pair!!

            Well Failure part & Brake Distance let me check tonight again before I confirm anything.
            I'll change the front tomorrow early morning!!
            I did change the brake oil, total cost was including the brake oil change...

            I ordered only 1 unit and it costed me 1050/- and their shipping was free to Bangalore....

            From where did you get the unit?

            I was just running trials and observed that the brake wasn't locking up so soon, but when I use both the brakes, I came down from 70kmph to 0kmph in approximately 6-9 meters... and this is without even small skidding of any of the wheel...

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            • if there would be a brake failure then it is risky. You should get it installed from a reliable mechanic who has done it before. i would think twice before installing it.
              but still if you don't experiment how will you come to know abt the product. So best of luck and safe riding.

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              • my que is:do indian bikes baldy need ABS?
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                • IMHO, no. Its far better to develop one's braking skills that to install this aftermarket ABS whose reliability is unknown.
                  Your biking tells a lot about the person you are!

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                  • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                    IMHO, no. Its far better to develop one's braking skills that to install this aftermarket ABS whose reliability is unknown.
                    i agree...+1...first we were on drum brakes...do we tried aftermarket discs tht time?now we got on stock discs which are far more reliable....later we will be surely introduced to abs in bikes too...?so aftermarket experiments arent recommended...
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                    • Originally posted by abhijeet080808 View Post
                      IMHO, no. Its far better to develop one's braking skills that to install this aftermarket ABS whose reliability is unknown.
                      I concur..

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                      • ^^^ strange , but why is everybody thinking that the guy @Prabhakar is recomending all to get ABS, it was his decission to get it and he got it and personally, it i feel its good somebody tried it.
                        now lets see how his brake performs n then decide... again personal opinion ...
                        Aprilia RS 125 or Honda CB400 Vtec ..... which one will it be ??? I think its gonna be NINJA ZX 6R :-)

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                        • ^ Prabhakar is also selling them to fellow xBhpians Hence the discussion
                          When everything comes ur way, u r in the wrong way ;)

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                          • Originally posted by chilled_fire View Post
                            ^^^ strange , but why is everybody thinking that the guy @Prabhakar is recomending all to get ABS, it was his decission to get it and he got it and personally, it i feel its good somebody tried it.
                            now lets see how his brake performs n then decide... again personal opinion ...
                            Exactly.

                            Correct application of brakes is a learning process and cannot be inherited instantly. For those who don't have the time to learn or aren't interested in developing outstanding braking skills, if there is an easier way out, why not.
                            DoN\'t LivE tO DiE, dIe tO LiVe

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                            • Ok second review!!!

                              Keep the discussion on!!!
                              Its on sale in my Web store & will be there in my Physical store also.
                              Ordering in Bulk now!!!!

                              Ok second review!!!


                              I checked it real time!!!
                              The Rear tire is locking up very rarely!!!
                              I went on till a speed of 110+ & Applied the brake fully!!!
                              There is a screeching sound but the tail did not loose traction & the vehicle came to a stand still in slightly shorter distance.
                              The Major advantage is THERE IS NO MOVEMENT for the rear of the vehicle.
                              Also if my senses worked properly the Brake is not the same as before.

                              During medak ride I braked hard at 120+ & the rear stepped out of line.
                              I released the brake & re-applied the brake to Avoid a Stupid Car fellow.

                              Tried same today & The Vehicle's rear Never stepped out.
                              But at 110.

                              As far as I understood by the slow & fast brakings My conclusion is -
                              The Device is actually giving the pressure in a continous breaks!!!!!
                              It does not have brain!!!!!
                              Normal braking or hard braking it does not know - it knows only 1 thing simply PUMPING the brake.
                              So if U hit the brakes hard U'll notice the Pulsating ABS.

                              If U just casually hit the brakes U may not notice it but it mechanically pulsates that also!!

                              Its not a rocket science involved in this.
                              But the marketing terms it as ABS.
                              This is not ABS - its a PUMP.
                              The way U do pumping to make effective sudden braking.
                              So from now on lets call it Brake AID or Pump.

                              But what it does in effect is what we require under hard braking - Pumping.

                              The Sound which was coming from the rear was not from this Device as reported earlier.
                              It was from the Tire - There was a nail in it!!!
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                              • gr8 work prabhakar bhai.....
                                i completely agree with everyones view and opinion as well...just puted a question there...
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