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**sambrother** · 11-30-2010, 09:14 PM

Originally posted by d@rk nemesis View Post

how much does the rear turn indicator cost.My left one is completely broken.

Bro...240 each is the actual cost however local which is working fine since 4 years cost only 50

what i mean try local one as well

**kaynmantis** · 12-01-2010, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by curse View Post

Hi all !! this my first post.
I own 1 month old zma done 900kms , from last two days i am hearing strange noise from engine (left side) its like chain running on sprocket type, getting it continously. i took my bike to svc as expected they said everything is fine, after an argument they changed the cam chain tensioner but the sound is still there,i mentioned check tappet settings but looking at thier faces i kept quiet they may do worse than good.I am new to this place leave mechanics i know very few people here and being rural area only one hh showroom so i dont blame hh guys much coz there are very few zma's here. I have read all posts here but still not able figure out the sound.i am not facing any performance issues.
Other than cam tensioner what other issues are there with timing chain?
Please help me!!

This may not be the case, but if you are riding a Zma for the first time and the sound is something like "RRRRRRRRRR" similar to bicycle when you back pedal, only louder. Then this is very normal due to heavy chain used in Zma which tends to make louder sound than other bikes. Those are sounds generated when each chain link comes in contact with the front sprocket, which by the way is smashing against the sprockets with great force. And besides the sprocket is located on the left side.

The sound disappears when chain is freshly lubed. But it will come back after some time. No harm there, just a Zma trademark. Hope this is the case. Else, I have no Idea.

**sambrother** · 12-01-2010, 01:22 AM

Originally posted by venkatesh_B View Post

guys i am planning to get a pre-owned karizma-r as my second bike. i already own apache rtr 160 with which i am fine with. the only prob i get is that my spine starts aching during the long rides.
so as many suggested, i am thinking of karizma-r. my height is exactly 164cms. not a well built body. i feel i should ask the option from the owners. also what would be the money i could give for a 15-20k run bike?

Bro it anyways depends on how much bike has ripped as few people can rip the bike even below 10k mark

if u are thinking to buy ZMA with actual raw power with a stable japanese engine...then try and get classic model which ends by 2006,,,it will cost u around max 35k depending on wear and tear...and trust me i own it its still way better then new one available...

**curse** · 12-01-2010, 08:02 AM

Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post

This may not be the case, but if you are riding a Zma for the first time and the sound is something like "RRRRRRRRRR" similar to bicycle when you back pedal, only louder. Then this is very normal due to heavy chain used in Zma which tends to make louder sound than other bikes. Those are sounds generated when each chain link comes in contact with the front sprocket, which by the way is smashing against the sprockets with great force. And besides the sprocket is located on the left side.

The sound disappears when chain is freshly lubed. But it will come back after some time. No harm there, just a Zma trademark. Hope this is the case. Else, I have no Idea.

But i am getting this sound in idle too

**Satyamzma** · 12-01-2010, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by sambrother View Post

Bro it anyways depends on how much bike has ripped as few people can rip the bike even below 10k mark

if u are thinking to buy ZMA with actual raw power with a stable japanese engine...then try and get classic model which ends by 2006,,,it will cost u around max 35k depending on wear and tear...and trust me i own it its still way better then new one available...

there is no diff in new and old model except that ugly engine cowl in new model...

**surendra.xbhp** · 12-01-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally posted by kaynmantis View Post

This may not be the case, but if you are riding a Zma for the first time and the sound is something like "RRRRRRRRRR" similar to bicycle when you back pedal, only louder. Then this is very normal due to heavy chain used in Zma which tends to make louder sound than other bikes. Those are sounds generated when each chain link comes in contact with the front sprocket, which by the way is smashing against the sprockets with great force. And besides the sprocket is located on the left side.

The sound disappears when chain is freshly lubed. But it will come back after some time. No harm there, just a Zma trademark. Hope this is the case. Else, I have no Idea.

Yeah, I just love ZMA for this sound.
It's unique & you can guess it's ZMA with this sound without having to look at it.

But as "curse" said it comes even when engine is idle, I recommend a proper check from a good SVC in near by city.
Don't waste time buddy.

I personally feel, new lot of ZMAs has lots of trouble.

Damn, I feel HH is less responsible about ZMAs these days.

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

there is no diff in new and old model except that ugly engine cowl in new model...

Ugly?

I hate it only for one reason, it reduces engine cooling.

**Satyamzma** · 12-01-2010, 06:21 PM

surendra there is no problem in the bike......it's just that few bikes comes with problem....here at XBHP there are lots of new ZMA R owners who had done around 40k on their ZMA's and are still very happy....though mine is 06 model...

**sambrother** · 12-01-2010, 08:12 PM

Originally posted by Satyamzma View Post

there is no diff in new and old model except that ugly engine cowl in new model...

bro there is a noticable difference as the earliest one was got assembled with a classic japnease engine which is superb in acceleration and best top speed in herohonda history with a unleaden weitht of 288kg

and the R which has been released later has got better milage but comparatively a little less top end and acceleration as it is bit lighter in weight and the grip of zmaR is no where near the zma classic...i did checked the difference personally and you can certainly decide urself if u can come to rohini delhi...and take a test ride and feel the difference... my bike is 2005 model and still it can make u think seriously about whatever i said

**ROCKRZ** · 12-02-2010, 11:07 AM

Originally posted by sambrother View Post

bro there is a noticable difference as the earliest one was got assembled with a classic japnease engine which is superb in acceleration and best top speed in herohonda history with a unleaden weitht of 288kg

ROFLMAO... weight of 288 kgs??? seems like a typo...

and the R which has been released later has got better milage but comparatively a little less top end and acceleration as it is bit lighter in weight and the grip of zmaR is no where near the zma classic...

dude, i guess you have not riden both the bikes side by side... technically:-
1) weight does contribute to better grip but that is just in a straight line. but grip is more affected by the tyre condition rather than the bike weight.
2) if a bike is lighter, how can the acceleration be lower?
3 ) the carbs of both the bikes are same.. so how can the new one be tuned for milage and not for top speed unless there was a conspiracy to kill the end user????

i did checked the difference personally and you can certainly decide urself if u can come to rohini delhi...and take a test ride and feel the difference... my bike is 2005 model and still it can make u think seriously about whatever i said

my comments in bold..

buddy, i dont mean to offend you, but these fact just dont match with the real world reasoning!

**vineeth aredath** · 12-02-2010, 07:07 PM

Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Post

my comments in bold..

buddy, i dont mean to offend you, but these fact just dont match with the real world reasoning!

+1 to ROCKRZ

@sambrother: Buddy afaik there are very few differences between old zma and zma r, inwhich one major difference is the cdi. The old one comes with an advanced timing where as the new one is optimized for power and fuel efficiency. But that does'nt mean that r is underpowered.
Other differences includes engine oil, clutch plates and some minor cosmetical changes .
288 kg is a bit too much

**sambrother** · 12-02-2010, 09:07 PM

Originally posted by ROCKRZ View Post

my comments in bold..

buddy, i dont mean to offend you, but these fact just dont match with the real world reasoning!

dude, i guess you have not riden both the bikes side by side... technically:-
1) weight does contribute to better grip but that is just in a straight line. but grip is more affected by the tyre condition rather than the bike weight. bro agree with a Uni fact that tyre does give a better grip but along with more weight it ensures better stability
2) if a bike is lighter, how can the acceleration be lower?
i did rode both bikes of same distence covered genere and the one who owns kno it in real(not to offend u it seems u have HUNK as per ur DP which is awesome mid seg bike though)
3 ) the carbs of both the bikes are same.. so how can the new one be tuned for milage and not for top speed unless there was a conspiracy to kill the end user???? bro i cant say that is due to carb as in Zma'R if u rip on hi speeds it actually lacks top end as compare to classic zma which is still going strong...

my comments are also in bold..
Dude , i dont mean to offend you, but these fact just did match with the real world reasoning as this is what i am going through*

* (Conditions Apply)

**sambrother** · 12-02-2010, 09:19 PM

Originally posted by vineeth areth View Post

+1 to ROCKRZ

@sambrother: Buddy afaik there are very few differences between old zma and zma r, inwhich one major difference is the cdi. The old one comes with an advanced timing where as the new one is optimized for power and fuel efficiency. But that does'nt mean that r is underpowered.
Other differences includes engine oil, clutch plates and some minor cosmetical changes .
288 kg is a bit too much

i am not sayin it's under powered...

bro we all kno that Zma has no comparison among all siblings...its just if u compare it with classic zma then there is a little but noticable difference...

**Jithu** · 12-02-2010, 09:49 PM

Originally posted by sambrother View Post

bro there is a noticable difference as the earliest one was got assembled with a classic japnease engine which is superb in acceleration and best top speed in herohonda history with a unleaden weitht of 288kg

and the R which has been released later has got better milage but comparatively a little less top end and acceleration as it is bit lighter in weight and the grip of zmaR is no where near the zma classic...i did checked the difference personally and you can certainly decide urself if u can come to rohini delhi...and take a test ride and feel the difference... my bike is 2005 model and still it can make u think seriously about whatever i said

HA HA HA .. Man you are really funny ..
Bro if you dont know the correct facts please find it out before posting some thing like this .
I think you accidentally placed two karizmas instead of one when trying to find the weight . I cant stop laughing reading the Weight and grip part ..

No offense meant ..

**anmol_1990** · 12-02-2010, 09:57 PM

well there is not any technically difference in terms of specification in both versions..........

i guess that the earlier zma engine parts were imported from some other country.......and this one is manufactured here(engine i mean)

rest there is difference in number of clucth plates and cdi.

i think there isnt any document issued by HH which explains any such difference, all this is assumed[as told by a mechanic etc] by all in one or other way.

**onlinesatish** · 12-02-2010, 10:37 PM

Guys, whats the mileage you get on highways with speeds ranging between 100-120kmph?

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