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**psr** · 05-20-2011, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by Rakeshsharma View Post

Thanks 4 the info @ PSR .Its black and 550 Km in odo.But i really didnt want to remove the lower cowl.i believe i will have to compromise for its looks

to fix a leg guard

After I removed the lower scoop I found the engine to run a little cooler, so it actually helps your bike...
The leg guard is a must..it not only saves your leg and lower areas, but also the fairing too....and ZMA fairings are just waiting for an excuse to have cracks.

Have you changed the engine oil at 250 Kms ?
Try a JASO MA2 20 W 40 mineral oil..it will reduce engine heating

**Only Amit...** · 05-20-2011, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Painful as it is to see the bike vandalized , it was the choice of words that you had used, which brought a smile on my face.....We have much worse ones here..people who autograph the bike /car. After I had painstakingly cleaned and polished my Lancer, some **** had scratched words " WOW " right across the front bonnet with letters as big as one foot each...And my bike's seat was cut up randomly with blade while parked in a Electronics market area...I had been riding since I was 15 and now i am 59...so you can imagine the encounters and pain I had been repeatedly subjected to.
Regarding the FE please check your Air Filter, and change it...Bangalore traffic is so bad , where do you get the chance to take it up to 5K rpm ? Don't tell me you have never gone above the 3rd gear and keep the RPM always high..

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Hey I was just kidding Bro...don't take it offensive. Didn't know you are 59...must have encountered lot of monkeys(both four feeted and twin feeted) in your riding era.

My K&N has not been cleaned from last 15k...may be thats the reason of low FE

Originally posted by Rakeshsharma View Post

I got new karizma r 2011 model and wanna put leg guard & mechanic says its not possible to fix on it.Any one has got any clue??

Congrats Mate!!! Ride safe

Originally posted by psr View Post

For fixing a leg guard you have to remove the lower Fairing and CBZ X leg guard will fit in ZMA-R....

I was planning for this from long time, didn't know cbz x fits. Didn't want to put some after market stuff. Will get it done soon, safety comes first...not the looks!!!

**Rakeshsharma** · 05-20-2011, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

After I removed the lower scoop I found the engine to run a little cooler, so it actually helps your bike...
The leg guard is a must..it not only saves your leg and lower areas, but also the fairing too....and ZMA fairings are just waiting for an excuse to have cracks.

Have you changed the engine oil at 250 Kms ?
Try a JASO MA2 20 W 40 mineral oil..it will reduce engine heating

No i haven't changed the engine oil at 250.now i need to take my bike for the first servicing.
Service centers guys said after 500km i can do the servicing any time.I will recommend them this oil change.Yeah ZMA fairings are delicate

**psr** · 05-20-2011, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post

Hey I was just kidding Bro...don't take it offensive. Didn't know you are 59...must have encountered lot of monkeys(both four feeted and twin feeted) in your riding era.

No I did not take it in the wrong sense....Just felt bad at knowing what these sadists do...so was trying to make the situation a little light.
My K&N has not been cleaned from last 15k...may be thats the reason of low FE

Hhhmmmmm...I think changing your Air Filter to stock paper type will do a lot of good to your engine...since K&N or any cotton air filters are not as good at filtering dust like stock paper filters...Paper filters will give you better engine life.

Congrats Mate!!! Ride safe

I was planning for this from long time, didn't know cbz x fits. Didn't want to put some after market stuff. Will get it done soon, safety comes first...not the looks!!!
True..I have no personal exp., in fixing the CBZ X guard...only what is posted in this thread with pictures...My ZMA has a crash bar which I have plans to change....

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**psr** · 05-20-2011, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by Rakeshsharma View Post

No i haven't changed the engine oil at 250.now i need to take my bike for the first servicing.
Service centers guys said after 500km i can do the servicing any time.I will recommend them this oil change.Yeah ZMA fairings are delicate

Please be present when the oil is changed..just to ensure it is done properly...They have to totally drain the old oil and then fill in 900 ml of fresh engine oil.

**Rakeshsharma** · 05-20-2011, 05:53 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Please be present when the oil is changed..just to ensure it is done properly...They have to totally drain the old oil and then fill in 900 ml of fresh engine oil.

hmm yes your right. thank you for your valuable suggestions.More over when will be the next cycle of oil change after the 1st service? and can i use the same oil always(JASO MA2 20 W 40 mineral oil)

**psr** · 05-20-2011, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Rakeshsharma View Post

hmm yes your right. thank you for your valuable suggestions.More over when will be the next cycle of oil change after the 1st service? and can i use the same oil always(JASO MA2 20 W 40 mineral oil)

The frequency of oil change depends on your riding style and engine condition...going by thumb rule mineral engine oil of 20W40 should be changed every 2,000 Kms.
HH recommends only 10W30 as stock oil....this becomes black and wasted in 800 Kms..... you may buy the 20W40 oil outside and you have to request HH to use it.
Originally all Karizmas came with 20W40 only.

HERO HONDA : :The Empire Strike Back!With KARIZMA

**Rakeshsharma** · 05-20-2011, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

The frequency of oil change depends on your riding style and engine condition...going by thumb rule mineral engine oil of 20W40 should be changed every 2,000 Kms.
HH recommends only 10W30 as stock oil....this becomes black and wasted in 800 Kms..... you may buy the 20W40 oil outside and you have to request HH to use it.
Originally all Karizmas came with 20W40 only.

HERO HONDA : :The Empire Strike Back!With KARIZMA

ok that is nice..I have heard of motul300v also but i dont know whether it is mineral oil or synthetic .Even castrol power comes up with the 20w40 mineral oil right? which is the better?

**Only Amit...** · 05-20-2011, 06:25 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

HH recommends only 10W30 as stock oil....this becomes black and wasted in 800 Kms..... you may buy the 20W40 oil outside and you have to request HH to use it.
Originally all Karizmas came with 20W40 only.

HERO HONDA : :The Empire Strike Back!With KARIZMA

As per my personal experience,the svc guys won't put any oil other than HH 10W30. But here in the link it shows 20W40

Originally posted by Rakeshsharma View Post

ok that is nice..I have heard of motul300v also but i dont know whether it is mineral oil or synthetic .Even castrol power comes up with the 20w40 mineral oil right? which is the better?

Motul 300V 15w50 fs oil is the best oil I have used till date.Use this oil after having 5k kms on ODO. Don't tell your svc guys that you are using it, they vil scare you by telling that it will void your warranty

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**Rakeshsharma** · 05-20-2011, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post

As per my personal experience,the svc guys won't put any oil other than HH 10W30. But here in the link it shows 20W40

Motul 300V 15w50 fs oil is the best oil I have used till date.Use this oil after having 5k kms on ODO. Don't tell your svc guys that you are using it, they vil scare you by telling that it will void your warranty

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Yeah even i have heard of motul its good..But haven't used yet..Need to try it..

**psr** · 05-20-2011, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by Rakeshsharma View Post

Yeah even i have heard of motul its good..But haven't used yet..Need to try it..

Like Amit said AFTER 5 K Kms you can try the Fully Synth oil..till then better to use the mineral 20W40 oil..I am using Gulf Pride 4T plus 20W40 with good results. You can try Motul , Gulf, Shell....Do not go for Castrol since there are many fakes..You can also try Yama lube, which is Motul with Yama sticker...a mineral oil of any of these manufacturer will be around 200/- per liter .
You should look for JASO MA2 compliance and 20w40 in grade.

**Rakeshsharma** · 05-20-2011, 06:49 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Like Amit said AFTER 5 K Kms you can try the Fully Synth oil..till then better to use the mineral 20W40 oil..I am using Gulf Pride 4T plus 20W40 with good results. You can try Motul , Gulf, Shell....Do not go for Castrol since there are many fakes..You can also try Yama lube, which is Motul with Yama sticker...a mineral oil of any of these manufacturer will be around 200/- per liter .
You should look for JASO MA2 compliance and 20w40 in grade.

Thanks alot Amit & PSR

**psr** · 05-20-2011, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by Only Amit... View Post

As per my personal experience,the svc guys won't put any oil other than HH 10W30. But here in the link it shows 20W40

Amit it is the write up given at the early stage of Karizma Launch, and even the power indicated is less than 17 hp.....From ZMA-R they have changed the oil to 10w30.

Of interest here is the Fact the Max speed is 125 Kmph..Speedo indicated 145 kmph..

When I bought my pre-owned ZMA it had HH oil changed just about 1 k Kms before..It looked black and thick, so I drained it and filled with Gulf Pride 4T plus. The changes were a smooth engine with clear gear changes, and less vibes..Of course the revving was not as quick as with 10w30...but after 700 Kms the oil looks and feels the same as new..

**rachitkohli** · 05-20-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Amit it is the write up given at the early stage of Karizma Launch, and even the power indicated is less than 17 hp.....From ZMA-R they have changed the oil to 10w30.
When I bought my pre-owned ZMA it had HH oil changed just about 1 k Kms before..It looked black and thick, so I drained it and filled with Gulf Pride 4T plus. The changes were a smooth engine with clear gear changes, and less vibes..Of course the revving was not as quick as with 10w30...but after 700 Kms the oil looks and feels the same as new..

Even I have tried Gulf Pride 4T this time for a change, after using Castrol Power 1 for a long time. Feeling better. Lets see how it behaves after 1k mark.

**Rakeshsharma** · 05-20-2011, 06:56 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Amit it is the write up given at the early stage of Karizma Launch, and even the power indicated is less than 17 hp.....From ZMA-R they have changed the oil to 10w30.
When I bought my pre-owned ZMA it had HH oil changed just about 1 k Kms before..It looked black and thick, so I drained it and filled with Gulf Pride 4T plus. The changes were a smooth engine with clear gear changes, and less vibes..Of course the revving was not as quick as with 10w30...but after 700 Kms the oil looks and feels the same as new..

Even for me gear shits were quite rough at early stages but now its fine but still bringing it to the neutral gear position is a mess sometimes.

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