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**sooraj_vs** · 06-09-2011, 11:27 PM

Originally posted by SriramEfunds View Post

As far as I know HH Hunk headlight type is HS1 which is compatible with H4 bulbs. I don't see any issue as it would be a direct fit. Try it out.

Nice. Will try it out and let you guys know.

**ashwinprakas** · 06-09-2011, 11:30 PM

@Psr sir... As u said my stock setting was 1k idlle and 1.3k hot.. but i changed that 2day morning... anyways will try you'r setting tomorow and post the results.... And sir pls respond to my earlier post regarding oil change.. thanks in advance,,

**psr** · 06-09-2011, 11:52 PM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

@Psr sir... As u said my stock setting was 1k idlle and 1.3k hot.. but i changed that 2day morning... anyways will try you'r setting tomorow and post the results.... And sir pls respond to my earlier post regarding oil change.. thanks in advance,,

Setting the idle RPM at 1.3 K when hot saves petrol when you idle at the signal stops.
Regarding oil.... Use only 20W40 MINERAL OILS confirming to JASO MA2 specification...Synthetic oil is not warranted for ZMA and if you wish to use it ,...use it after the bike had completed at least 6K Kms.
Mineral and Semi synthetic will be more than adequate for the ZMA engine.
Using thinner oils like 10W30 as recommended by HH leads to early loss of oil quality and poor gear shifts and vibrations,...and engine will also run hotter.
Gulf Pride 4 T plus, Motul 3000 series, Shell AX ,and Valvoline 4T are all non synthetic....and are priced around 200/- to 240/- per liter..
Look on the oil container ...the type of oil whether it is mineral or SS or Synthetic will be mentioned.
Also look for JASO MA2.which is more important.

**ashwinprakas** · 06-10-2011, 12:03 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Setting the idle RPM at 1.3 K when hot saves petrol when you idle at the signal stops.
Regarding oil.... Use only 20W40 MINERAL OILS confirming to JASO MA2 specification...Synthetic oil is not warranted for ZMA and if you wish to use it ,...use it after the bike had completed at least 6K Kms.
Mineral and Semi synthetic will be more than adequate for the ZMA engine.
Using thinner oils like 10W30 as recommended by HH leads to early loss of oil quality and poor gear shifts and vibrations,...and engine will also run hotter.
Gulf Pride 4 T plus, Motul 3000 series, Shell AX ,and Valvoline 4T are all non synthetic....and are priced around 200/- to 240/- per liter..
Look on the oil container ...the type of oil whether it is mineral or SS or Synthetic will be mentioned.
Also look for JASO MA2.which is more important.

Thanks alot sir... Aneesh recommended a trustworthy shop.. so will got there tomorow and buy the one stated above.. i.e Mineral of Gulf Pride 4T Plus... with the above mentioned certification... and once again thanks alot sir for your speedy reply...

**sagargowda** · 06-10-2011, 01:42 AM

Starting Problem!

Hey Guys,..
I have been facing a problem lately with my Zma,.. Not sure whats causing it.Everyday when i start the bike for the first time... it will not start for the first time,.. it takes atleast 5 kicks even using choke wont help,.. and even if it starts as soon as the throttle is increased above 1k rpm,.. the engine shuts off,.i have to try for a long time by changing the fuel knob to reserve and then it starts.what can be causing this????
odo reading is 4k due for servicing at 5k.

**sagargowda** · 06-10-2011, 01:49 AM

Sad exhaust sound

Guys im still not able to resolve the sad exhaust sound i get out of my zma,..it sounds exactly like a Suzuki fiero,.

the same dub dub sound,

.. i miss the distinct zma exhaust sound. HHSC guys and friends wer not sure about what was causing it,.. this forum is my only hope

**SriramEfunds** · 06-10-2011, 02:55 AM

Originally posted by sagargowda View Post

Hey Guys,..
I have been facing a problem lately with my Zma,.. Not sure whats causing it.Everyday when i start the bike for the first time... it will not start for the first time,.. it takes atleast 5 kicks even using choke wont help,.. and even if it starts as soon as the throttle is increased above 1k rpm,.. the engine shuts off,.i have to try for a long time by changing the fuel knob to reserve and then it starts.what can be causing this????
odo reading is 4k due for servicing at 5k.

These are the things I would check/suspect:

1. Quality fuel
2. Airlock - Check the fuel channel thoroughly

Originally posted by sagargowda View Post

Guys im still not able to resolve the sad exhaust sound i get out of my zma,..it sounds exactly like a Suzuki fiero,.

the same dub dub sound,

.. i miss the distinct zma exhaust sound. HHSC guys and friends wer not sure about what was causing it,.. this forum is my only hope

You'll need to wait for sometime before engine sets in to get deep bass sound. Sometime it take few thousands kms and for some it just the way run-in done. I would say my bike which is run 700kms, the engine is kind of set now hearing some deep bass when the throttle is closed during the ride. I would request you to not to worry much with regards to exhaust note. This is not RX/shogun. So chill. Your above issue is matter of concern and not the exhaust note my friend.

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 06-10-2011, 08:45 AM

Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post

i.e Mineral of Gulf Pride 4T Plus

Gulf Pride 4T Plus 20W40 is Semi Synthetic oil and Motul 3000 4T Plus is Mineral oil.

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 06-10-2011, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by psr View Post

Setting the idle RPM at 1.3 K when hot saves petrol when you idle at the signal stops.

Sir actually,Mine was at 1.3k before,Sometimes it cutoff during traffic on sudden acceleration,so changed it to 1.4 on cold and 1.5k on hot.

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 06-10-2011, 09:07 AM

Urgent Help!!!!

@ psr

Sir need your help

, An Xbhpian, DJ86 aka Darshan needs urgent help on his karizma.I am posting this on behalf of him.He is in office now.Now the problem is he is getting knocking or tappet sound from his engine,the bike is only 6 months old and when checked it with the SVC,they said its completely normal. So now,i had included two recordings of engine sound,kindly hear this and give me a solution to solve this problem.

Engine Knocking.Zip

**Jerrin** · 06-10-2011, 09:11 AM

Originally posted by sagargowda View Post

Hey Guys,..
I have been facing a problem lately with my Zma,.. Not sure whats causing it.Everyday when i start the bike for the first time... it will not start for the first time,.. it takes atleast 5 kicks even using choke wont help,.. and even if it starts as soon as the throttle is increased above 1k rpm,.. the engine shuts off,.i have to try for a long time by changing the fuel knob to reserve and then it starts.what can be causing this????
odo reading is 4k due for servicing at 5k.

exactly the same problem i experienced after one month. That happened abt 3 times. Dont know what the actual reason is. Make sure that you have enough petrol above reserve.

**psr** · 06-10-2011, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by sagargowda View Post

Hey Guys,..
I have been facing a problem lately with my Zma,.. Not sure whats causing it.Everyday when i start the bike for the first time... it will not start for the first time,.. it takes atleast 5 kicks even using choke wont help,.. and even if it starts as soon as the throttle is increased above 1k rpm,.. the engine shuts off,.i have to try for a long time by changing the fuel knob to reserve and then it starts.what can be causing this????
odo reading is 4k due for servicing at 5k.

Your AFR is set very lean, or you have contaminated fuel...either bad fuel or water in fuel...For AFR setting the stock setting is 4 turns ANTI CLOCK WISE after GENTLY turning the AFR screw clockwise till it stops.If problem still persists turn half a turn more anti clockwise till the problem goes away.

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

Sir actually,Mine was at 1.3k before,Sometimes it cutoff during traffic on sudden acceleration,so changed it to 1.4 on cold and 1.5k on hot.

I had this problem and so first set the AFR to stock as mentioned above, then I opened the carburettor and took out the slide.I noticed that there was a black coating on the slide and it wasn't moving freely in the chamber.So with 'O' emery gently rubbed the black coating off the slide, and found that the slide was able to move freely...further I had drilled a second small hole in the slide at the bottom ,...opposite to the one that already exists...This gives a better slide lift response, and off the block start is no problem now. and acceleration is very good compared to stock.......................Part marked 15 is the slide.

**Aneesh@4GHz** · 06-10-2011, 12:09 PM

Originally posted by psr View Post

I had this problem and so first set the AFR to stock as mentioned above, then I opened the carburettor and took out the slide.I noticed that there was a black coasting on the slide and it wasn't moving freely in the chamber.Co with 'O' emery gently rubbed the black coating off the slide, and found that the slide was able to move freely...further I had drilled a second small hole in the slide at the bottom ,...opposite to the one that already exists...This gives a better slide lift response, and off the block start is no problem now. and acceleration is very good compared to stock.......................Part marked 15 is the slide.

OK sir,Will clean my carburetor ,i am not going to drill a hole now.

Also need reply for the Urgent Help!!!!.

now a days after trips,say 30 or 40 kms its smells like LPG bike. smells of lpg and petrol,Is it running too rich?

**psr** · 06-10-2011, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

@ psr

Sir need your help

, An Xbhpian, DJ86 aka Darshan needs urgent help on his karizma.I am posting this on behalf of him.He is in office now.Now the problem is he is getting knocking or tappet sound from his engine,the bike is only 6 months old and when checked it with the SVC,they said its completely normal. So now,i had included two recordings of engine sound,kindly hear this and give me a solution to solve this problem.

Engine Knocking.Zip

Aneesh I heard the sound and it sounds more like a tappet noise.There seems to be much play in the tappet adjustment, and the SVC will say it is ok because for adjusting it they should have proper feeler guage etc., and in a Karizma it is very difficult to adjust. If you see your own ZMA the tappet door nut facing the front wheel is easily accessible, this is for the exhaust valve . The one for the inlet valve sits right under the petrol tank and even if you remove the tank and try to access it the air valve tubes and chassis will come in the way. So the SVC will always say it is ok and not a problem....but insist on the job to be done or complain to HH about the bad sound from engine, and the SVC will be asked to do it for you.

**psr** · 06-10-2011, 12:25 PM

Originally posted by Aneesh@4GHz View Post

OK sir,Will clean my carburetor ,i am not going to drill a hole now.

Also need reply for the Urgent Help!!!!.

now a days after trips,say 30 or 40 kms its smells like LPG bike. smells of lpg and petrol,Is it running too rich?

You have bad petrol...do you park the bike for long times with petrol and then ride it ? Old petrol smells bad,and sometimes you will also feel the bike has no pull...or your petrol bunk is giving you bad petrol.....

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