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  • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

    Originally posted by d0c View Post
    thanks srinath
    infact i have done this mod few weeks back .
    Procured the switch from the Suzuki spares after an argument with the service manager regarding warranty void
    got the switch installed and it works fine
    Excellent! so warranty, extended warranty and battery warranty are void now?

    Did the service centre fix it for you or another mechanic?

    Did you add any relay or modification to battery/ wiring? I guess this wouldn't have happened but want to confirm.

    Will it be a legal problem if police stops you and they see the light switch and BS4 on your RC paper? Wouldn't you be paying fine against govt RULE. I reckon this was put out as a rule.

    I'm planning to get an access for a 12 km ride to my new college. I'm getting started with my postgraduate studies and I will need a workhorse. So disc brake model is what I have in mind. Hero duet, next option. I'd love to do this modification provided there isn't much complication. I hate to see headlights on always.

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    • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

      Had an opportunity to take my bike to SVC today and got a test ride of BS4 access 125. The pick up is great and the disc brake was rubbery. It was a new vehicle and I think that was the reason. Or is it the same even after months of usage? You just don't wanna ride it slow! Rear locks pretty quickly. Didn't try the drum brake model and I'm sure even the front would lock quickly.

      So I found this thing prominent. On the panels covering the left and right of the front apron, which suzuki says, is made of metal, there was a huge panel gap - the interior plastic and the panel did not go well. Is it the same on your scooters? Also is there a provision to fit number plates without drilling holes? I know sticker is another option but without using sticker, is it possible to fit a number plate, the usual rectangular one without the support of the chrome guards?

      I lost the link but somewhere on the web I found that there was a provision internally to get a protruding hook to fit the number plate. It was behind the front panel of the scooter, is what I remember to date after reading it, not sure as I was just browsing through web pages and didn't see this much.
      Last edited by srinath2494; 06-09-2017, 07:53 PM.

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      • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

        Originally posted by srinath2494 View Post
        Excellent! so warranty, extended warranty and battery warranty are void now?

        Did the service centre fix it for you or another mechanic?

        Did you add any relay or modification to battery/ wiring? I guess this wouldn't have happened but want to confirm.

        Will it be a legal problem if police stops you and they see the light switch and BS4 on your RC paper? Wouldn't you be paying fine against govt RULE. I reckon this was put out as a rule.

        I'm planning to get an access for a 12 km ride to my new college. I'm getting started with my postgraduate studies and I will need a workhorse. So disc brake model is what I have in mind. Hero duet, next option. I'd love to do this modification provided there isn't much complication. I hate to see headlights on always.
        The SVC people refused it up straight to install the switch and said no warranty claim will be accepted if done outside as they wont be responsible for anything
        anyways if needed i can revert back within minutes before giving it to SVC

        it was done outside by a local mechanic and no relay was added , the wires were soldered to the switch and connected

        Police will not have that much time or enough knowledge to know about the BS4 variant
        so i guess its nothing to be worried about

        Plus , i will be adding a pass switch in a week or so


        Originally posted by srinath2494 View Post
        Had an opportunity to take my bike to SVC today and got a test ride of BS4 access 125. The pick up is great and the disc brake was rubbery. It was a new vehicle and I think that was the reason. Or is it the same even after months of usage? You just don't wanna ride it slow! Rear locks pretty quickly. Didn't try the drum brake model and I'm sure even the front would lock quickly.

        So I found this thing prominent. On the panels covering the left and right of the front apron, which suzuki says, is made of metal, there was a huge panel gap - the interior plastic and the panel did not go well. Is it the same on your scooters? Also is there a provision to fit number plates without drilling holes? I know sticker is another option but without using sticker, is it possible to fit a number plate, the usual rectangular one without the support of the chrome guards?

        I lost the link but somewhere on the web I found that there was a provision internally to get a protruding hook to fit the number plate. It was behind the front panel of the scooter, is what I remember to date after reading it, not sure as I was just browsing through web pages and didn't see this much.

        the brakes have strong bite on mine and got little spongy after usage

        There are no panel gaps on my vehicle

        yes if needed , holes will be drilled on the front fairing for number plate and there are provisions inside
        but i didnt get it drilled and just stuck a sticker on the front

        and please reply in a single message instead of replying separately
        use the multi quote feature

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        • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

          Originally posted by d0c View Post
          The SVC people refused it up straight to install the switch and said no warranty claim will be accepted if done outside as they wont be responsible for anything
          anyways if needed i can revert back within minutes before giving it to SVC

          it was done outside by a local mechanic and no relay was added , the wires were soldered to the switch and connected

          Police will not have that much time or enough knowledge to know about the BS4 variant
          so i guess its nothing to be worried about

          Plus , i will be adding a pass switch in a week or so





          the brakes have strong bite on mine and got little spongy after usage

          There are no panel gaps on my vehicle

          yes if needed , holes will be drilled on the front fairing for number plate and there are provisions inside
          but i didnt get it drilled and just stuck a sticker on the front

          and please reply in a single message instead of replying separately
          use the multi quote feature
          ok thanks for the info.

          Pleasw notice I posted the messages on two different occassions/days so I didnt want to edit the same message to keep relevancy.

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          • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

            I have swish 125 for the last 4 years . recently I made a test drive of new access 125 disc . the power delivery is very quick . and I booked new access 125 . the 10" wheel on swish 125 makes it uncomfortable on local roads . 12" fr wheel of access gives better riding experience. paid Rs. 74516 on road (Aluva , kerala ) and 1600 for extra fittings .
            Last edited by scorpiohafeez; 06-15-2017, 09:11 PM.

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            • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

              My Swish completed 20,000 kms in 1.5 years.


              Its running realy well, a hoot to ride in traffic. Other than for oil change & regular service never visited SVC.

              Did a small ride(to Ilavizhapunchira) 230kms last December with some offroad, the suzuki performed well.
              Pic attached-






              This scooter has quite stiffly sprung suspension which helped in the offroad not once did the bottom scrape.


              Pros-
              *Peppy for a 125cc engine,strong acceleration

              *BEST CONSOLE TILL DATE ON ANY SCOOTER, FIRST SCOOTER TO FEATURE A DIGITAL CLOCK , DIGITAL- TWO TRIP METERS AND AN OIL CHANGE INDICATOR

              *NO COLD START UP ISSUE, starts with button start (1-2sec) no need of choke.

              *good throttle response
              *Has brake locks (disliked Activa 125 because it lacked this)
              *good dynamics, would rate it the best (aprilia SR excluded )
              *F.E
              Once on a 1 litre petrol test, got over 60kmpl, gets around 45 easily.
              *Best drum brakes, progressive and can stop the scooter quickly.
              *Seats are not too soft like many scooters.
              *One of the best underseat storage, NO HUMP there[emoji106] (the current access has it),quite deep and wide.

              Cons-
              *Suzuki axed Swish form their line up
              *Nothing else

              Mods-
              Changed the pilot lamps to white L.E.Ds


              The engine is simply fantastic, silent, liner power delivery, vibe free even at 90 kmph, stress free engine til around 75kmph, tops out at 103 kmph (all speedo)
              I Love swish , for what it offers, just like the GS150r it was a complete package (probably the best in class and VFM) but didn't click.
              Last edited by IamAditya; 06-16-2017, 03:15 AM.

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              • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

                Picked up a blue access 125 yesterday! hope to update this thread once I start clocking miles
                Seems to be super smooth except for idling, not sure why it vibes while its stationary. Looking to upgrade the mirrors to better one, stock seems to be of not so good quality.
                Biker @ heart

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                • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

                  Has anyone used motul 300v with K&N air in my well maintained 5yr old access.

                  Please advise.
                  MuRtHY

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                  • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

                    Has anyone used motul 300v with K&N air filter in their access

                    I would like to use them in my well maintained 5yr old access.

                    Please advise
                    MuRtHY

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                    • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

                      Originally posted by rajit999 View Post
                      Has anyone used motul 300v with K&N air filter in their access

                      I would like to use them in my well maintained 5yr old access.

                      Please advise
                      And what is your expectation in case you use this combo ?
                      Stick to regular oil changes (every 2500~3000km) with whatever the recommended oil is, or you could give the shell ax7, motul scooter le oils a try.
                      No need to go for very expensive stuff ! And ditch the k&n unless you desperately need the 'sound'.
                      The scooter will be happy if it gets fresh oil at the said intervals and will last you a long time.

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                      • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

                        Originally posted by rajit999 View Post
                        Has anyone used motul 300v with K&N air filter in their access

                        I would like to use them in my well maintained 5yr old access.

                        Please advise
                        300v and k & n for a scooter? Does not suit it tbh, could be detrimental to the engine rather than helpful , stick to recommend mineral oil. 300v is good if you have a bike and your mostly in the top end, more suitable for track but I use it on my CBR 250 too see how it does.

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                        • Suzuki Access 125 - engine stopped, kicker jammed

                          Hi all,

                          I have a Suzuki Access 125, and yesterday while riding, it happened to stop here and there, and later I was unable to self start it, I took the 2 wheeler to a mechanic he says engine is stopped so is the kicker, as it was unable to kick and start.

                          I took it to Suzuki service centre, they are charging me bomb for the repair saying so and so engine part has to be removed, checked and replaced, could anyone suggest me what needs to be done here?

                          Thank you, appreciate your reply.

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                          • Re: Suzuki Access 125 - engine stopped, kicker jammed

                            Originally posted by sharath83 View Post
                            Hi all,

                            I have a Suzuki Access 125, and yesterday while riding, it happened to stop here and there, and later I was unable to self start it, I took the 2 wheeler to a mechanic he says engine is stopped so is the kicker, as it was unable to kick and start.

                            I took it to Suzuki service centre, they are charging me bomb for the repair saying so and so engine part has to be removed, checked and replaced, could anyone suggest me what needs to be done here?

                            Thank you, appreciate your reply.
                            Is it in warranty? If not then try different local mechanic try to get a cheaper solution. It's not easy to tell what's wrong based on what you described.

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                            • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

                              Hi all, took delivery of an Access 125 (Blue, Drum brake variant) last week. Have clocked about 100 kms till date. I will share my initial impressions with the brief time I have had with this scooter. This will be a bit long, but I will try to include all the information that I have.

                              Background of the purchase:
                              We had a 6 years old TVS Scooty Pep+ handling the scooter duties at home. Of late, it had started giving a lot of troubles, mainly with the engine. The engine had developed a very harsh exhaust note and there was some loud screeching noise coming from it. The battery had died and the fuel gauge stopped working. Took it to TVS ASC for diagnosis and I was informed that some crankcase bearing had failed and the engine needed to be opened. The estimated repair cost was upwards of ₹8000. Decided against it and planned to exchange it for a new scooter.

                              Why did I choose the Access 125? :
                              After living with a Scooty Pep+ for almost 6 years (and 18k kms), my heart was craving for something with more power. The Access had always been my favourite scooter because of it's performance and acceleration. So, when I wanted to buy a new scooter, the fact that it had to be a 125 was a no-brainer. So, I had to choose either the Access or the Activa 125. I never liked the way the Activa 125 looked and it didn't really feel desirable. Plus, I also own a Honda Livo and I really know the attitude of the Honda dealers and their pathetic service centres. My experience with them had never really been good. So, I didn't really want another Honda. So, the final choice was the Suzuki Access 125.

                              Variant Selection and Dealership Experience:
                              The dealership (Global Suzuki, Palakkad) is less than a kilometre from my home. The dealer attitude was really good, the polar opposite of the experience I had with Honda dealers. The sales executive was knowledgeable and friendly, and a test ride was offered without any hesitation. Found the scooter to be great as it always was. I opted for the drum brake variant. They gave a quote of ₹10000 for my old Scooty, which I found to be reasonable considering the amount of repair that it has to undergo. Delivery was promised within a week, on August 17th. Transferred the full amount within the next couple of days. Total on-road cost came to ₹70200, of which ₹10000 came from my Scooty.

                              Why did I opt for the drum brake variant when the disc brake variant is available for a small premium? :
                              I had initially decided on the disc brake variant. The choice was initially a no-brainer since it costs just over ₹2000 extra compared to the drum brake variant. Plus, it had good-looking alloy wheels as well. But my dad and my sister (who is still learning to ride), who would be the primary users, were not comfortable with the disc brake setup as they felt it would be too powerful for a scooter, and reckoned that the drum brake variant was better for them. Hence the choice. Had it been for my use, I'd have definitely gone for the disc brake variant without a second thought. If any one of you is looking for an Access, I'd still recommend that you get the disc brake one.

                              The scooter was delivered on August 17th, as promised. Floor mat and indicator buzzer were provided free of cost, by the dealer. I opted for a conventional front number plate instead of a sticker, which meant that two holes had to be drilled on the front apron. Although I was initially apprehensive about it, the dealer has done an excellent job with the installation. It fits seamlessly and there are no rattling issues.



                              (Number plate assembly)

                              Looks are subjective, and I find the scooter to be pretty good looking. It especially stands out in the deep blue colour. I'd have picked the matte-black colour of the special edition if it had been made available on the regular variants.

                              Enough has been already said about the performance of the scooter, and I don't wish to elaborate on it much. It is a hoot to ride and masks speed beautifully. You don't realise the rapid speed buildup as the power delivery is pretty linear. The sense of urgency that the earlier Access had has been subdued, and this one accelerates more linearly. The dealer had emphatically advised me to not exceed 50kmph during the run-in period, but I find it pretty difficult to stay within that speed limit. You don't realise that this thing is going fast, and it begs you to go faster. I've already exceeded the said speed limit on a couple of occasions unknowingly. I'd say it again, this scooter masks speed really well. Something that I don't find in many other scooters.

                              The exhaust note on the new Access is a bit different from the earlier one. The difference is especially noticeable during idle. I feel that the idling exhaust note of the new Access is a more conventional one, similar to other scooters, whereas the earlier one had a distinct "purr" in the idle. Still, it sounds superbly refined.

                              The seat is really long and wide, and is very good. Two well-built adults can sit behind one-another comfortably without brushing against each other. Even if you prefer a laid-back riding position like me, a pillion can comfortably sit behind. So, I feel this scooter is suitable even for taller riders. I am around 5'10" and I have no trouble of my knees fouling with the handlebar. The cushioning is a touch too firm for my liking, though, and I might end up buying a seat cover.

                              The handling is also decent. The scooter is pretty light at 102kgs and it feels so. It is really agile. Light weight and powerful engine make up for a fun ride. It did not find it overly stiff, but the suspension could have been a bit more soft. Still, it is a good handler and ride comfort is pretty good.

                              The underseat storage capacity is excellent and it can accommodate a regular full face helmet with space remaining for a raincoat or so. There are also dedicated holders for the toolkit and documents. The central locking feature means that you don't have to remove the key and put it in another keyhole, like in most scooters. An external fuel filler is a miss, but it is still something that I can live without.

                              (Underseat Storage)

                              The front pocket/cubbyhole is really useful. It can accommodate my 5.5" phone and a wallet easily. I did not opt for the optional mobile charging port (₹300 extra) as I don't need it.

                              Cannot comment on the mileage at this stage, as I have not ridden it extensively. I will update after I fill it up.

                              I have been instructed by the dealer to perform the first start at the morning by using the kick starter. During a cold start, when I pull the choke and use the kicker, it has difficulty in starting. But without the choke, it starts in a jiffy. Strange. The starter motor is also self-engaging. Just tap it once and it'll do the rest, no need to keep it pressed.

                              Also, the headlamp cluster gets uncomfortably warm even after a short run, thanks to AHO. I really wonder why the Government implemented such a rule. Companies simply did away with the headlamp switch and they are proudly advertising it as a feature.

                              I find the brake lock clamp to be a bit hard to use. The brake lever has to be squeezed really hard to engage the clamp. No idea why.

                              Mods planned: I am planning to swap the mirrors with the ones that come with the Special Edition. If somebody has done that, please share the details.

                              Summary:

                              PROS:
                              1. Engine, performance
                              2. Long and comfortable seat
                              3. Great underseat storage
                              4. Handy cubbyhole at the front
                              5. Decent instrument cluster with 2 trip meters
                              6. Looks (subjective)
                              7. Central locking system with push shutter for keyhole

                              CONS:
                              1. Firm seat cushioning
                              2. No external fuel fill
                              3. Alloy wheels available only in the disc brake variant
                              4. No pass light switch
                              5. Conventional lights instead of fancy LEDs

                              Thanks a lot for reading.

                              UPDATE: The scooter has been consistently returning a fuel economy of 40-45kmpl, on average, over the last 5-6 refuels (using tankful method). It has been ridden at 50kmph or below most of the time, entirely in city conditions. I'd say this is a pretty decent fuel economy considering that the scooter is still under the run-in period (completed 800kms). I am sticking to premium petrol as of now. First service (oil change) was done on the 30th day of ownership, at 400kms odo reading.
                              Last edited by jayaram95; 10-13-2017, 11:09 AM. Reason: Update regarding fuel economy

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                              • Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

                                Hello Friends,

                                I have recently booked Suzuki Access disc brake variant. I will use it as primary two wheeler for my entire family i.e. myself (daily office commute), wife and parents (occasional use).

                                I was previously using Pulsar 150 since last 10 years. My wife and parents are not very experienced with two wheelers and still learning.

                                I am still confused about my choice for Disc or Drum brake variant. I will break my queries as follows :
                                1. Having used Pulsar for last 10 years with disc brake, I am very confident to use them on my new ride i.e. Access. Does the disc brake on scooters behave the same way as on motorcycles ? Can sudden hard braking lock 12 inch tyres pretty quickly for even me to control the scooter ?
                                2. Should I go ahead and buy disc brake variant Access or change my mind to drum brake as more safer choice for everyone in my family ? Or should I teach them how to use disc brakes and be prepared for initial small falls till they learn it properly to ensure safer rides in long run ?


                                Let me know if similar thoughts were there in your mind before making such selection and how should I make my decision by solving above 2 important queries.

                                Thank You for your time and support.

                                Rohit Singh
                                Last edited by roks2408; 08-28-2017, 03:42 PM.

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