Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

[IamAditya]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

don't think, just buy access 125 if you want a better product, better engine, better performance and overall a better package. activa 125 is just behind access 125 in every aspect. if you are keen on resale value buy activa 125 but Honda service in Chennai is pathetic, parts are costly, maintenance cost is high. think well before taking your decision.

Yeah..
I agree..

When you ride access and activa125 back to back ( I did) access feels premium.

Especially the comfort, the road undulation is less transferred to our back on Access.
And as said the engine is highly refined and fun unit.
Delivers realy good F.E if ridden sanely.

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

don't think, just buy access 125 if you want a better product, better engine, better performance and overall a better package. activa 125 is just behind access 125 in every aspect. if you are keen on resale value buy activa 125 but Honda service in Chennai is pathetic, parts are costly, maintenance cost is high. think well before taking your decision.

I see some extreme statements there which may not be true. However I can see access is trendy and is doing well. I will decide if I want something for the long run or only few years.

[Architk58]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Can anyone help me regarding a problem in my suzuki swish 125.
Today I went for a short ride. It was running okay. I parked it somewhere for around 3 hours or so. When I came back my scooty won't start. Now my battery is not running properly from some time but even with the kick I can't start it.
I found a mechanic near me. He said "scooty over ho gayi hai". Now what does that mean? After waiting for 5-10 mins. It finally get started with kick. But again stopped after going for a distance.
Now can anyone please tell me that what can be the issue?
Thanks

[s1d]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Can anyone help me regarding a problem in my suzuki swish 125.
Today I went for a short ride. It was running okay. I parked it somewhere for around 3 hours or so. When I came back my scooty won't start. Now my battery is not running properly from some time but even with the kick I can't start it.
I found a mechanic near me. He said "scooty over ho gayi hai". Now what does that mean? After waiting for 5-10 mins. It finally get started with kick. But again stopped after going for a distance.
Now can anyone please tell me that what can be the issue?
Thanks

Just try this simple thing... Open the petrol tank, wait a minute and then try to start the scoot(use choke if needed). If it starts up, the let it idle for a minute or so and gently blip the throttle and see if it shuts down or continues to run. These scoots are notorious for air lock and I've seen it happen on scooty's, activa, pleasure.

If that doesn't solve yer problem, then you'd have to dig further i.e.check spark plug, carb, compression.

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Hi Guys,

Need your unbiased opinion.

After test-riding all the scoots in the market, I am now down to Activa 125 and Access 125, leaving out Vespa due to many practical concerns. Activa 125 disc brake model costs ~7k lesser than base model Vespa in Chennai. That's a bummer considering the competition is cheaper.

I am inclined to Activa 125 for only one reason - metal body and good resale value. But comparing it with older activas, the build quality has come down but feels little better than access 125 still. Arrogant honda dealer and service personnel should not spoil and make it worse in the due course of the vehicle's lifetime.

When I'm spending an amount almost close to Vespa, I want to expect a proportionate resale value too.

Is it true that Activa 125 will hold a better resale value than Access 125, in say 5 years, at least with a good proportion and difference from it's competition? Also, will it age well? I've heard from owners that the build quality of activa has gone down drastically and also the metal-plastic-chrome panels don't settle in well. Is it true?

If not for the fibre body, I'd go for the access which is around 72 k on road, Chennai. It's easier to ride than the activa (due to less bulk) and is quicker too. But, I don't get why there's a charger outside the underseat storage. It's not practical at all considering it's exposed and the mobile can fall out of the small front pocket. The dimensions of the scooter though, are perfect for a tall person like me.

Which is more premium and good for the long run? Is it worth spending extra amount on Activa for what it offers in comparison to competition? Post this, I'd make a purchase, mostly next week.

Thanks in advance.

[IamAditya]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Hi Guys,

Need your unbiased opinion.

After test-riding all the scoots in the market, I am now down to Activa 125 and Access 125, leaving out Vespa due to many practical concerns. Activa 125 disc brake model costs ~7k lesser than base model Vespa in Chennai. That's a bummer considering the competition is cheaper.

I am inclined to Activa 125 for only one reason - metal body and good resale value. But comparing it with older activas, the build quality has come down but feels little better than access 125 still. Arrogant honda dealer and service personnel should not spoil and make it worse in the due course of the vehicle's lifetime.

When I'm spending an amount almost close to Vespa, I want to expect a proportionate resale value too.

Is it true that Activa 125 will hold a better resale value than Access 125, in say 5 years, at least with a good proportion and difference from it's competition? Also, will it age well? I've heard from owners that the build quality of activa has gone down drastically and also the metal-plastic-chrome panels don't settle in well. Is it true?

If not for the fibre body, I'd go for the access which is around 72 k on road, Chennai. It's easier to ride than the activa (due to less bulk) and is quicker too. But, I don't get why there's a charger outside the underseat storage. It's not practical at all considering it's exposed and the mobile can fall out of the small front pocket. The dimensions of the scooter though, are perfect for a tall person like me.

Which is more premium and good for the long run? Is it worth spending extra amount on Activa for what it offers in comparison to competition? Post this, I'd make a purchase, mostly next week.

Thanks in advance.

Right now Access feels way more premium than Activa..
You pay less and still get more.

More?
-Brake lock, underseat opening on the ignition slot itslef, better performance , comfier and handling is too good.
After Aprilia its the Suzuki scooters that has the best dynamics.
Both are equally good on long run.

Unless a Honda fan, Activa doesn't make any sense be it their 3g,4g or 125.

[emoji106]
Cheers.

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Right now Access feels way more premium than Activa..
You pay less and still get more.

More?
-Brake lock, underseat opening on the ignition slot itslef, better performance , comfier and handling is too good.
After Aprilia its the Suzuki scooters that has the best dynamics.
Both are equally good on long run.

Unless a Honda fan, Activa doesn't make any sense be it their 3g,4g or 125.

[emoji106]
Cheers.

was wondering whether can we fix the headlight switch to the newer 2017 models ?

i recently purchased the BS4 variant which comes with AHO feature
and i want the headlight to be off during day times , as i find it irritating and the reflector gets super hot

is this possible ?
any pointers would be helpful


by the way the brakes on this vehicle are phenomenal
we own a Suzuki swish 125 too in my family and riding both of them back to back , i feel swish brakes are pathetic


kudos to Suzuki for introducing the disc variant

280RS on amazon. Might be cheaper in the local market. I was quoted 240rs in ramkoti, Hyderabad.

Does suzuki use shell oils in their svc ? I thought they had their suzuki branded oil (though it is probably made by some other oil company).
And only 650ml oil poured? I thought the oil capacity would be 800 ml at least (maybe more). Check your owners manual, it will have the oil capacity and also the service details i.e. what has to be checked/replaced at specific service intervals.
Please recheck the oil level on your scooter. 650ml is too low for an oil change.
Regarding buying the oil outside, that depends on your svc.. some might accept and some don't. For e.g. my ktm svc will accept oil i buy outside(as you said saves money), but the honda guys are cranky (especially if bike is under warranty)

An update regarding the oil level and Tyre pressure, I measured today and it was between minimum and maximum, and regarding the tyre pressure so I took it to the tyre guy and everything was proper according to him, as yesterday when I checked at the petrol station it had dropped down to 17 on the rear tyre and 15 in the front within 4 days. I filled air yesterday and went to check today at the tyre guy he checked for 15 min and said it's fine nothing to worry as the pressure was the same I filled yesterday.
I'll do a follow-up check after 3 days to see if the petrol station indicators are faulty or there is problem with the tyres.

A strange thing I am experiencing from last couple of days where ever I go people stop and ask about the scooter 😍 and it's been turning heads since day 1. In last 2-3 days at least 8-9 people at the signal were curious and few people where ever I park for some shopping 😎 feels soo good.

I was extremely happy with my Access 125, rode almost a 1000 km till the first service and it was really as smooth as butter. Ever since the first service, I have found the engine to be rougher, more vibrations and even the pickup is sluggish. I went back to the service center, he said something about clutch overhaul and charged me 150 bucks, but even that has not helped the issue. I checked the oil, level seemed ok, but the oil felt very thing. Is that normal? Should I try changing the oil to a shell or better one?

I really feel like banging my head against the wall for taking a beautiful running vehicle and paying incompetent guys money to mess it up

owners, update on your usage, problems, mileage, reliabiltiy issues ans service experience? Is it giving mileage comparable to 110cc scooters due to its light weight? Anyone got above 50kmpl?

Please and thanks.

[hd_hardikdesai]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

owners, update on your usage, problems, mileage, reliabiltiy issues ans service experience? Is it giving mileage comparable to 110cc scooters due to its light weight? Anyone got above 50kmpl?

Please and thanks.

Currently i am facing few minor issues such as random shutting off and mileage of around 35, had a chat with the SVC fellow they said your next service is due so maybe after that things will get sorted hopefully.
Shutting off will be sorted by slightly increasing the rpm I guess.
And I guess you are following this thread since long 😂 and you were looking to purchase this. It's very simple just test ride whatever you confused between. As Access is more spacious and power full than anything else in the market.

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Currently i am facing few minor issues such as random shutting off and mileage of around 35, had a chat with the SVC fellow they said your next service is due so maybe after that things will get sorted hopefully.
Shutting off will be sorted by slightly increasing the rpm I guess.
And I guess you are following this thread since long 😂 and you were looking to purchase this. It's very simple just test ride whatever you confused between. As Access is more spacious and power full than anything else in the market.

Ive been following many other threads too. I like more than one scooter and hence this problem. Also in the meantime there were changes like bs4 and in engine specs. So, it was good that I waited.

Why is the mileage so poor? Are you riding it like motorcycle for some high speed fun?

Note: just want your opinions and not how to ride, I've owned rtr 180 and now have a gixxer. I'm going to purchase a 400 + cc motorcycle soon too.

[hd_hardikdesai]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Ive been following many other threads too. I like more than one scooter and hence this problem. Also in the meantime there were changes like bs4 and in engine specs. So, it was good that I waited.

Why is the mileage so poor? Are you riding it like motorcycle for some high speed fun?

Note: just want your opinions and not how to ride, I've owned rtr 180 and now have a gixxer. I'm going to purchase a 400 + cc motorcycle soon too.

I am just using it for short rides, 5km a day 1.5km to gym and return and then 1km to station and return soo maybe that's why I am not getting good mileage, bs4 hype wasn't that necessary I personally don't like the headlight feature. If you're going to buy a 400+ cc in near future then try buying before GST comes in to action, elz you might have to spend little more as the taxes for 350+ cc are going to increase.

Note : I never say anyone how to ride and what to ride, just the test ride to clear the confusion 😁

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

I am just using it for short rides, 5km a day 1.5km to gym and return and then 1km to station and return soo maybe that's why I am not getting good mileage, bs4 hype wasn't that necessary I personally don't like the headlight feature. If you're going to buy a 400+ cc in near future then try buying before GST comes in to action, elz you might have to spend little more as the taxes for 350+ cc are going to increase.

Note : I never say anyone how to ride and what to ride, just the test ride to clear the confusion 😁

I don't mind GST and all that. It is also irrelvant to suggest that here. Thanks for your suggestion on test ride and gst without my asking for that, smarty pants. Duh.

Anyone in the thread owns the new silver colored access? Please post the pictures if yes! Thanks.

[s1d]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

owners, update on your usage, problems, mileage, reliabiltiy issues ans service experience? Is it giving mileage comparable to 110cc scooters due to its light weight? Anyone got above 50kmpl?

Please and thanks.

do not expect such high mileage figures in real time on these scooters. it all depends on how it is used. using it for short rides in town could yeild as low as 35kmpl.
but for an average city user (assuming you ride it for 8km at a stretch) and do around 20 km a day puttering around sanely, you should be able to squeeze out around 45kmpl. wring the throttle to get off the line every time and it would hover around 42 kmpl.
if you ride it at around 55kmph on the highway on long stretches, you could end up with 50+ kmpl.
i would still favor the honda any day over the suzuki's scoots.. they age well, last a long time, parts are easy to procure (though a bit expensive). as for the service centers, irrespective of brand it's the same scenario.. these guys don't do justice to keep your vehicle in top shape.
I've used my Dio for around 70k km in 10yrs and the engine has been bullet proof.. i get mine serviced at a local mech (been doing it since after the 4th free service). I've also seen other scoots that come to my mechanic (he works only on scooters) and they don't seem to be able to take as much abuse as a honda or age as well. And I still think that you should pickup the regular activa (4g) and ditch the 125.

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

was wondering whether can we fix the headlight switch to the newer 2017 models ?

i recently purchased the BS4 variant which comes with AHO feature
and i want the headlight to be off during day times , as i find it irritating and the reflector gets super hot

is this possible ?
any pointers would be helpful


by the way the brakes on this vehicle are phenomenal
we own a Suzuki swish 125 too in my family and riding both of them back to back , i feel swish brakes are pathetic


kudos to Suzuki for introducing the disc variant

yes, absolutely possible with a neat job.

The headlight switch socket is sealed in thr new models.

Go to suzuki genuine spares shop either a store or online. Procure the 2016 facelift headlamp switch with a wire, if they provide it too.

Authroized service centre will not do this so go to a mechanic who can do wiring too.

Get the seal removed, just like how you can remove the seal for the dc socket. Ask him to insert the switch and connect it between the battery and headlamp. Voila, you got it in a time of 30 mins or less. Mechanic will take care if the scooter needs relay or something. Also if you cant buy the switch, your mechanic can get it from some other store or from some other vehicle lol

Be ready to renounce warranty, battery warranty and free services, maybe.

If at all cops stop and check the papers they might ask, 'bh4 vechicle why headlamp automatically not on?' Lol. But trust me, thats a rare case as many cops still dont know that this rule exists.

What you gain in turn is better battery life and chilled out reflector

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do not expect such high mileage figures in real time on these scooters. it all depends on how it is used. using it for short rides in town could yeild as low as 35kmpl.
but for an average city user (assuming you ride it for 8km at a stretch) and do around 20 km a day puttering around sanely, you should be able to squeeze out around 45kmpl. wring the throttle to get off the line every time and it would hover around 42 kmpl.
if you ride it at around 55kmph on the highway on long stretches, you could end up with 50+ kmpl.
i would still favor the honda any day over the suzuki's scoots.. they age well, last a long time, parts are easy to procure (though a bit expensive). as for the service centers, irrespective of brand it's the same scenario.. these guys don't do justice to keep your vehicle in top shape.
I've used my Dio for around 70k km in 10yrs and the engine has been bullet proof.. i get mine serviced at a local mech (been doing it since after the 4th free service). I've also seen other scoots that come to my mechanic (he works only on scooters) and they don't seem to be able to take as much abuse as a honda or age as well. And I still think that you should pickup the regular activa (4g) and ditch the 125.

hi thanks for the information on mileage. There arw two things i like about suzuki. 3 showrooms within 5 km radius and 2 offer excellent services. Nearest Honda dealer (manasarovar honda) from day one has been indifferent. He said it will take 45 days for getting disc brake model of activa 125 and tried convincing me to buy drum brake model. They even called me said things like 'sir why are you silent you can get the same vehicle you test rode' which is a drum brake alloy wheel model. I told them I'll rather wait than buy that. Also theyre asking me to buy the exact scooter theyre giving for test ride to so many. How foolish and i different. I even remwmber its chassis number since i rode it twice. I guess 10 years ago this wouldnt have been the case. I do not know any mechanic in my locality.

From my experience so far, I find 110cc scooters adequate but 125s are affordable, esp access which costs as much as a jupiter 100cc with disc brake! Their mileage is also close and on other forums users report 49kmpl steady mileage from access. Also, my gixxer is serviced really well by the two authroized servicw centres I mentioned. The dealers are courteous and answer everything politely. I might actually become a patron of the brand but there's lot of time to think about it. Suzukis are as reliable as Hondas. So are Yamahas and Kawasakis. I miss the old suzuki max 100 r that I learnt to ride on. Give a nice restoration, I'd take that home from whoever is owning it.

But again it's weird because only a very few report mileage close to 50kmpl from access. On the other hand, instead of a regular 4g activa, I'd get the hero duet maestro edge. Apart from unproven reliability and outright pick up, its as good as activa and better than it in features list. I'd buy one of them. Dealers are much better than Honda's. Mileage is also 47 - 55 kmpl.

My usage would be 25 - 35 km per day max.

I still have time to decide and I'm not in a hurry.

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Here's a fun video I found

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=__I4iHjSuCs

As you can see, these rallies are very important in improving scooter design.

As a matter of pride, a less modified swish 125 finishes first.

An access 125 (old model) also finishes the race.

Surprisingly the gusto 125 holds up really well - it has a killer exhaust too LOL

Wegos, chetaks/ vespas are seen going quite fast too. Wego in this rally is seen to have steel wheels that are not stock.

A robust scooter is seen having these traits for rough usage - high performance engine, steel wheels to withstand abuse, heavy body - 105 + kilos in weight, long wheelbase, good stability to bend, larger wheels, telescopic suspension at the front side, no AHO and a great rider LOL

Fibre bodies are preferred to keep the weight in check as long as you don't drop the scooter. One of the dios, activas and kinetic hondas used here have modified front suspension that are telescopic.

One thing amazes me is that none of these, though running in wet slushy conditions, have disc brakes. Disc brakes perform better in wet conditions! Drum brakes collect water inside the drum an become sluggish. Probably, those heavy duty steel wheels were not compatible with discs, but why? lol

There are other dry rallies where these scooters are given discs.

Anyway, for city conditions (like without chucking the scooter into potholes at high speeds) and for 60+ kmph speeds, discs are best suited.

God, I wanna participate in that rally with my motorcycle!

[rvbhute]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Apologies for the late post. I bought the new Access in October last year. It has run 1285 km till now and given a mileage of 39.683 kmpl. 3 services have been done on schedule.

As is apparent, running is very low (joys of telecommuting, and it will reduce further during monsoon). My scooter has not given any trouble till date. Once, when it was left alone for 3 weeks, I had to thumb the starter switch for 30-40 seconds with choke. But other times, when I come back to it after say 6 days or a week, it starts with one touch. I have not used the kick starter yet, beyond testing its movement and resistance.

Feedback - its illumination - headlamps and parking lights - are under-powered. After monsoon, I am going to fix that. The seat is a bit too broad. My pelvic region muscles and joints get a nice stretch in Mumbai's traffic.

I have driven only two two-wheelers in my entire life - Yamaha Gladiator and now Suzuki Access- so I can't give comparisons against other scooters. But yes, I am not complaining - the ride is comfortable, braking is confident. I scoot through traffic easily. There is enough grunt to propel a 95kg rider plus 5kg backpack ahead of the pack when traffic signal turns green. I overtake comfortably when I see the need. Overall my riding style can be called leisurely and Access positively purrs in that style.

The display console scheme with white background and orange font/light is bit troublesome, specially at night, but that is individual preference.

Overall, I believe the Access doesn't compromise on anything specific - comfort, handling, engine power, tyres, braking, electrical and hence it is a good choice.