Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Yes i will replace with stock suspension from suzuki service center.

that doesnt make any sense? The ones that come from factory are going to be the same.

[hd_hardikdesai]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

I have bought a new access 125 a week ago. The suspension in this scooter is very stiff which is causing me backpain.
The old access is very good in suspension because of which i bought the new model but i am not satisfied.

Scooter is good except its shok absorbers.

anyone using access 125 can give me advice. Thanks

Try reducing a couple of psi in the tyres, and while sitting alone try to sit in the middle it really helps. I feel the front is more stiff then the rear.

[prakash86]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

that doesnt make any sense? The ones that come from factory are going to be the same.

he thinks the suspension in his bike is faulty, hence the replacement

[ZZR1]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

depends on where and how you ride. New access owners report getting 50kmpl mileage. Poor wouldnt be the word Id used to compare smaller scooters. In that sense 125cc scooters are poor in comparison to bigger scooters or bikes. 110ccs are in no way poor to live with given that you're no way going to reach your destination in a time that is considerable enough to save. Neither a race nor an emergency, always. Also theyre more frugal. They're also more suitable for environment in the literal sense that you said theyre poor in outright acceleration. I repeat, performance numbers dont matter to a regular scooter buyer. Its only mileage, price and resale value numbers usually.

Jfyi, in metro city conditions even these 110cc scoots give aeound 45kmpl mileage only :P I'm not in favor of them either.

I wont buy honda, I've decided that, unless someone in my family books it without telling me.

For my requirements, access or duet, either will do just fine, but ive not ridden them on the same day, back to back. I found access light, quick and spacious. But not exactly comfortable. But duet's ride is plusher and is so stable to zip through traffic as well. It feels more planted. So i have to ride them back to back, like immediately after getting down from one to another. So yeah, I can wait as I cant go for test rides anytime this week.

50kmpl on an access is an exception rather than a standard considering that it uses the same mill as the older one. I had a friend of mine who claimed his dio was returning 62 kmpl. Astonished, i asked him as to how he calculated mileage, for which he replied that he used to take a 400 ml bottle of petrol with him and wait for the tank to dry out on the highway, after which he emptied the contents of the bottle into the fuel tank and rode it till the tank emptied. Distance by fuel consumed was the mileage acc. to him. I interrupted stating that riding on an expressway at 40kmph constantly is not 'ideal test condition' (in the words of the company). Having said that i would not take 50 kmpl of access, per se at face value.
Buddy, please read what i have written. I have used the words 'poor' with reference to torque, acceleration. We are not talking about speed nor environment friendliness. No one buys a scooter to race (except the jokers doing wheelies and stunts on public roads). Even the ones riding 110ccs would be happy with a 125 for the pick up, helping them to close gaps in traffic, riding with a pillion etc. In other words it is not a question of reaching the 'destination quicker', rather it is one of eliciting a response from the engine when you need it. Given the traffic in metros, even on a yamaha r1 you would end up reaching the destination a few minutes quicker than on an activa.

The major reason for which people buy a scooter is 'convenience' and utility. Mileage, resale value are all secondary.( Have been riding the duke 390 and hornet in bangalore traffic and know how convenient my wife's swish, is). Again, mileage is not a primary factor. Those who are obsessed with mileage would rather go for a splendor or any other 100/125cc bikes which provide far better mileage. Utility wise and ability to carry luggage, groceries there is no two wheeled substitute for a scooter.

All the best in choosing a scooter. Whichever vehicle you choose, AFAIK there is no 'unreliable' scooter in the market.

[IamAditya]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

50kmpl on an access is an exception rather than a standard considering that it uses the same mill as the older one.
I had a friend of mine who claimed his dio was returning 62 kmpl.

The new 2016 Access shares nothing with old gen.
The present gen suzuki Access is nothing but just an increased bore/stroke of SUZUKI Lets 110cc.
Even the chassy is almost Same, reason behind the 104 kerb weight of Access.

I have 2015 swish now odo closing towards 20k kms,by a 1 litre petrol bottle method and running the scooter till it dries up, I got over 65kmpl.
Riding was extremely sane, too gentle on the throttle, keeping the speed between 30-55kmph.
[emoji106]
Cheers.

[ZZR1]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

AFAIK, the new access has the same engine as the old one, only the torque figures being different. Of course a different chassis design leads to weight reduction.
I have a 2012 Swish at home, and it has returned mileages between 36- 45 kmpl in traffic conditions. Of course i have fiddled with the carb at times, and at such times it has returned a substantially lesser mileage ( have not checked though).
How is the experience with the swish otherwise?

[srinath2494]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

The new 2016 Access shares nothing with old gen.
The present gen suzuki Access is nothing but just an increased bore/stroke of SUZUKI Lets 110cc.
Even the chassy is almost Same, reason behind the 104 kerb weight of Access.

I have 2015 swish now odo closing towards 20k kms,by a 1 litre petrol bottle method and running the scooter till it dries up, I got over 65kmpl.
Riding was extremely sane, too gentle on the throttle, keeping the speed between 30-55kmph.
[emoji106]
Cheers.

This may be true considering the weight of the new scooter but please substantiate it. The engine is said to be completely new as the company's marketing campaigns go...

AFAIK, the new access has the same engine as the old one, only the torque figures being different. Of course a different chassis design leads to weight reduction.
I have a 2012 Swish at home, and it has returned mileages between 36- 45 kmpl in traffic conditions. Of course i have fiddled with the carb at times, and at such times it has returned a substantially lesser mileage ( have not checked though).
How is the experience with the swish otherwise?

No it doesn't have.

[IamAditya]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

No guys..
Its not true..

Suzuki along with gixxer developed Lets, gixxer was a success but lets was a failure.

Lets had a newly developed engine and chassy, i personally know the suzuki svc manager, he said this.

And its true considering the weight there is only 6kg differnce between lets and access, which is evident considering the extra cubic capacity and few metal parts.
Even the new access sounds very similar to Lets than the old Access.

[s1d]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

50kmpl on an access is an exception rather than a standard considering that it uses the same mill as the older one. I had a friend of mine who claimed his dio was returning 62 kmpl. Astonished, i asked him as to how he calculated mileage, for which he replied that he used to take a 400 ml bottle of petrol with him and wait for the tank to dry out on the highway, after which he emptied the contents of the bottle into the fuel tank and rode it till the tank emptied. Distance by fuel consumed was the mileage acc. to him. I interrupted stating that riding on an expressway at 40kmph constantly is not 'ideal test condition' (in the words of the company). Having said that i would not take 50 kmpl of access, per se at face value.
Buddy, please read what i have written. I have used the words 'poor' with reference to torque, acceleration. We are not talking about speed nor environment friendliness. No one buys a scooter to race (except the jokers doing wheelies and stunts on public roads). Even the ones riding 110ccs would be happy with a 125 for the pick up, helping them to close gaps in traffic, riding with a pillion etc. In other words it is not a question of reaching the 'destination quicker', rather it is one of eliciting a response from the engine when you need it. Given the traffic in metros, even on a yamaha r1 you would end up reaching the destination a few minutes quicker than on an activa.

The major reason for which people buy a scooter is 'convenience' and utility. Mileage, resale value are all secondary.( Have been riding the duke 390 and hornet in bangalore traffic and know how convenient my wife's swish, is). Again, mileage is not a primary factor. Those who are obsessed with mileage would rather go for a splendor or any other 100/125cc bikes which provide far better mileage. Utility wise and ability to carry luggage, groceries there is no two wheeled substitute for a scooter.

All the best in choosing a scooter. Whichever vehicle you choose, AFAIK there is no 'unreliable' scooter in the market.

you are absolutely right, i've tried saying similar things over a few posts.. but you've put it all together in one good post.
the 'reliability' to a large extent depends on the owner/maintenance.
to those who get 55+ kmpl on their scoots in city use, a big salute from me and to those who grumble they get only 40-45kmpl (after having expectations of 60 kmpl before buying it) a big lol. sometimes these mechanic's tune the carb to a lean mixture on owners' "complaint" of "poor" mileage.. and this in the long run screws up the engine (top end)

[Avadhut]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

Which one is better in suspension..
Suzuki access 125, activa 125 or Jupiter ?

[Avadhut]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

that doesnt make any sense? The ones that come from factory are going to be the same.

I have changed my rear spring its a bit better but its siff. I still have a little back pain. I just feel like returning this vehicle

you are absolutely right, i've tried saying similar things over a few posts.. but you've put it all together in one good post.
the 'reliability' to a large extent depends on the owner/maintenance.
to those who get 55+ kmpl on their scoots in city use, a big salute from me and to those who grumble they get only 40-45kmpl (after having expectations of 60 kmpl before buying it) a big lol. sometimes these mechanic's tune the carb to a lean mixture on owners' "complaint" of "poor" mileage.. and this in the long run screws up the engine (top end)

[Avadhut]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

I have changed my rear spring its a bit better but its stiff. I still have a little back pain. I just feel like returning this vehicle

[s1d]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

I have changed my rear spring its a bit better but its stiff. I still have a little back pain. I just feel like returning this vehicle

what is the tire pressure you maintain ?

[Avadhut]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

what is the tire pressure you maintain ?

Front 22, rear 30

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[d0c]

Re: Suzuki Access125 / Swish125 ownership thread

yes, absolutely possible with a neat job.

The headlight switch socket is sealed in thr new models.

Go to suzuki genuine spares shop either a store or online. Procure the 2016 facelift headlamp switch with a wire, if they provide it too.

Authroized service centre will not do this so go to a mechanic who can do wiring too.

Get the seal removed, just like how you can remove the seal for the dc socket. Ask him to insert the switch and connect it between the battery and headlamp. Voila, you got it in a time of 30 mins or less. Mechanic will take care if the scooter needs relay or something. Also if you cant buy the switch, your mechanic can get it from some other store or from some other vehicle lol

Be ready to renounce warranty, battery warranty and free services, maybe.

If at all cops stop and check the papers they might ask, 'bh4 vechicle why headlamp automatically not on?' Lol. But trust me, thats a rare case as many cops still dont know that this rule exists.

What you gain in turn is better battery life and chilled out reflector

thanks srinath
infact i have done this mod few weeks back .
Procured the switch from the Suzuki spares after an argument with the service manager regarding warranty void
got the switch installed and it works fine