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**ravi@17bhp** · 07-07-2010, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

The oil filter would be clogged by now

. The metal chips and particles will be produced in the first few kms say 20 km and they will get trapped in the filter and this filthy oil(suspended with fine metal particulates) is being circulated through out

. Its mandatory to change the oil and filter in the first service. But the oil change interval is 750-1000 km which is way too long. Usually the oil filter is only available at service centre, you have to buy it from them. If you change only oil its OK, but when this new oil circulates through the filter(already clogged) it will get dirty soon(whats the need to change oil then). So its better if you change both

. The oil filter will cost around 35 and the 1 L mineral oil will cost 200, its still cheap.

I guess the engineers at the company knows better than us. Aren't they? If they know that running a new bike till 750 kms is damaging to the engine without change of oil, they could have taken care of it well.

Now the first interval period for some cars are 3000kms. I guess the engineers might have taken care of the sludge well at manufacture stage.

**Anupdas** · 07-07-2010, 08:07 PM

What you mentioned is a fact, engineers set a replacement interval by doing many R&D's

. I just said my point, those who find it apt can try it. If we can remove the complete sludge itself then why should we manage it

, i guess you get my drift. For the same distance an engine produce more sludge than it ever produced during break-in period. No matter how sophisticated the sludge management system its too much for it to handle. In cars this sludge can be managed better to bikes as they dont have shortage of space for incorporating any system. Instead of going for expensive mods this method is still cheaper and possibly does nothing harmful

. If one can afford the change why should we drag till 750 kms?

Even though engine manufacturing techniques have changed over years the break-in method is still unchanged the reason is simple, its not just break-in of engine but the rider also. The probability of crashing a new unfamiliar vehicle is higher so if they are scared of damaging new engine if they rev hard, no one will speed in a new vehicle causing any accidents.

**ravi@17bhp** · 07-07-2010, 10:40 PM

^^Agree to your point that nothing harm in changing the oil at 100 kms. I even suggested this and I did myself.

My point is, there will not be any harm even if you change the oil at 750 kms. When the engine is made, definitely they would have tested it (of course with oil) by running at good rpms. They would have defiitely filled new oil when tested OK.

A 750 km service interval would make the engine set in and prepares it for long hauls. If you change the oil at 100 kms, if it does, it does only good and not bad. Again you must change the oil at 750-1000 kms.

**Anupdas** · 07-07-2010, 10:53 PM

Now got your point

, I thought you were a typical orthodox rider who never questions a manufacturers instructions

. There wont be a problem to engine if oil is changed at 750 kms

. Everyone remember the smooth feeling the engine gave when they ride the bike for the first time. But this feel is lost just as we do some riding. Just after doing 500 or so km, I began to notice the roughness. Thats the main reason why I asked to change the oil as early as possible. As Ravi said its very good to change oil early at 100 or 200, good to change at 750 will be very bad if you prolong any longer.

**arun.kubasad** · 07-08-2010, 01:05 AM

got the bike today

...anup am considering wat you said.. ..50 on odo so shud i ask them to change the oil and filter now? if they ve any prob with tat..i can get it done with a mechanic outside ..i hope dealer wont trouble me later with obv reasons

>and my chain is talking to me a bit

>has anyone faced any prob with handle bar ..feels like something is stuck while turning ,,
i hope it ll be fixed soon though

**Anupdas** · 07-08-2010, 02:19 AM

Originally posted by arun.kubasad View Post

got the bike today

...anup am considering wat you said.. ..50 on odo so shud i ask them to change the oil and filter now? if they ve any prob with tat..i can get it done with a mechanic outside ..i hope dealer wont trouble me later with obv reasons

>and my chain is talking to me a bit

>has anyone faced any prob with handle bar ..feels like something is stuck while turning ,,
i hope it ll be fixed soon though

Congrats for the bike

. Let it run for around 200 km

. Vary the engine rpm, be smooth to her

. Dazzler has a sporty type open chain cover

, so have to maintain the chain well. Check if the chain has a play of 20-30mm(1 inch)and is well lubed.

Now that its rainy season, chain will rust if we dont maintain it well

. Its advised to clean and lube the chain every 500 km. As many are not aware of the care that should be given to chain cleaning and lubing Indian manufactures came with ingenious idea

of using full chain cover. Chain cleaners and lubes are available in market. But cleaning with kerosene and lubing with 140 or 90 grade gear oil (old engine oil )will be enough

.

**iwonder** · 07-08-2010, 12:44 PM

@Anupdas I again went there, but the guy said there no actual Oil filter but a small mesh like material which is inside the engine. Unlike TVS they don't have a removable Oil Filter. I'm confused now :|

**Anupdas** · 07-08-2010, 01:00 PM

Is that so

? Sorry bro for the confusion

, I never knew there are bikes out without oil filter

. Do ask the replace interval of the mesh and how often do we need to clean them......

**adirao90** · 07-08-2010, 01:11 PM

Hey guys, got my dazzler (silver) yesterday! Will post some pics soon.

**psycho_omkar** · 07-08-2010, 02:32 PM

Originally posted by arun.kubasad View Post

got the bike today

>has anyone faced any prob with handle bar ..feels like something is stuck while turning ,,
i hope it ll be fixed soon though

Yes, I did have the same feeling.. Check for the wires below the handle if they are bulging out and causing an obsturction to the handle while turning... I checked it and tried to put the set of wires in, but that didnt solve the prob completely... Asked my bro to take the bike to the service center and they fixed it in a min...My bro gave me a confirmation that the handle was fine then...

**psycho_omkar** · 07-08-2010, 03:37 PM

Originally posted by Sirius View Post

Wen i enquired, i found the price to be 1400 per bulb (Xenos) with a year's warranty... but i think its a Xenon angel eye bulb... Whats the difference between A HID and xenon...

M confused...

Hi, Dazzler's headlight is 12 V 35/35 W... I was thinking/wanted to know if we can directly change the stock bulb to phillips 55/60 crystal ??? Would we have to rewind the coil for the same ? Plz correct me if I am wrong, phillips crystal throws white light than the standard yellow one ...

**arun.kubasad** · 07-08-2010, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by psycho_omkar View Post

Yes, I did have the same feeling.. Check for the wires below the handle if they are bulging out and causing an obsturction to the handle while turning... I checked it and tried to put the set of wires in, but that didnt solve the prob completely... Asked my bro to take the bike to the service center and they fixed it in a min...My bro gave me a confirmation that the handle was fine then...

thnx bro wil do the same today

**manohar_manu** · 07-08-2010, 05:43 PM

Originally posted by Anupdas View Post

Is that so

? Sorry bro for the confusion

, I never knew there are bikes out without oil filter

. Do ask the replace interval of the mesh and how often do we need to clean them......

All pulsars, discovers, splendor, passion does not has oil filter.

That mesh needs to be cleaned during 1st service and later when u feel like. I get it done for every 10k kms.

**Sirius** · 07-08-2010, 09:31 PM

Guyz...

M plannin to fit 4500k xenos HIDs in my Dazzler... Will my 5 Ah battery(maintenance free) be able to handle it?

Need suggestions soon guyz... pl help me out...

**nidclt** · 07-09-2010, 10:19 AM

Originally posted by Sirius View Post

Guyz...

M plannin to fit 4500k xenos HIDs in my Dazzler... Will my 5 Ah battery(maintenance free) be able to handle it?

Need suggestions soon guyz... pl help me out...

Can you please post its rate?

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