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  • Hi friends. Today i got my dazzler black one. Its very nice to ride this babe. wow smooth ride, butter smooth gear shift, loving it very much. Guys give me some tips to maintain my babe properly.

    thanks in advance.

    Originally posted by iwonder View Post
    @vinod@rider Quoting myself -> http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/451798-post123.html

    I see you are from Kovai, I frequently come there. I would appreciate if you could let me/us know the prices of extra fittings like Crash, Saree Guard, Tank Covers etc. over there.
    dude these are the rates of the accessories here,

    crash - 511
    saree gaurd- 310
    tank cover- 242

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    • Originally posted by psycho_omkar View Post
      that's great ... I think I will have too have to get the bike to the service center and get it fixed when I get back to mumbai i.e. on coming wed... Will be able to confirm only after that
      In the mean time, what other prob I am facing is the cold engine issue.. there is no starting prob when the engine is cold, but when I start riding the bike and engage the first gear, the bike wont move at usual acceleration and will have accelerate a little more than normal... Similarly cant shift soon to 2nd gear as the bike starts knocking a little bit... Now I posted this prob earlier too and someone suggested me using choke which I did, but still that feel of bike not picking up with less acceleration seems to be preset.. It feels that the bike is running out of fuel and will soon die... Anybody facing something like this...

      Every mornin before starting to my college, i start the engine with choke and let it run for about 30 secs. I disengage the choke after that and leave it in idle for another 30 secs. Voila !! My babe becomes fresh and crispy. No problems or whatsoever. Pl try this man. Give your babe some time to freshen up every morn.

      I dono whether its a curse or a boon, my babe gets cooled pretty soon, even after long drives.
      Last edited by Sirius; 07-15-2010, 11:16 PM.
      /// Trying to be there, dreaming to do that ! \\\

      Prabhakar

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      • is the back wheel same as the CB UNICORN?

        one of my frind said that its leans as twister.
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        • Originally posted by ATHUL4R View Post
          is the back wheel same as the CB UNICORN?

          one of my frind said that its leans as twister.
          No, the CB Unicorn Wheels are 18" whereas Dazzler has 17" . Also, the rear tyres are bit fatter.

          I didn't get the "leans as twister". Can you rephrase it please.

          Originally posted by vinod@rider View Post
          dude these are the rates of the accessories here,

          crash - 511
          saree gaurd- 310
          tank cover- 242
          Thanks Mate.
          Peace \m/
          - Sreejith.net

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          • Originally posted by Sirius View Post
            Every mornin before starting to my college, i start the engine with choke and let it run for about 30 secs. I disengage the choke after that and leave it in idle for another 30 secs. Voila !! My babe becomes fresh and crispy. No problems or whatsoever. Pl try this man. Give your babe some time to freshen up every morn.

            I dono whether its a curse or a boon, my babe gets cooled pretty soon, even after long drives.
            hmmm.. will try that again, hope it works or else will have to get it rectified in my first service.. Thanks for your response though...

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            • Originally posted by psycho_omkar View Post
              hmmm.. will try that again, hope it works or else will have to get it rectified in my first service.. Thanks for your response though...
              My pleasure mate... Waiting to hear from you soon...
              /// Trying to be there, dreaming to do that ! \\\

              Prabhakar

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              • Idling engine!!!

                Guys I dont know the exact reason but I always idle the engine for half a minute after turning on and for a few seconds before turning off like done in 4 wheelers. On stopping always put the bike in neutral, engages side stand, remove helmet and then only I will "kill" the engine. I feel by this way engine cools quickly by circulating oil and will provide better start next time. Please correct me if I'm wrong......
                Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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                • how much litres does each bar in the fuel indicator indicates ???

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                  • 1.9 litres i guess.
                    /// Trying to be there, dreaming to do that ! \\\

                    Prabhakar

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                    • Originally posted by Anupdas View Post
                      Guys I dont know the exact reason but I always idle the engine for half a minute after turning on and for a few seconds before turning off like done in 4 wheelers. On stopping always put the bike in neutral, engages side stand, remove helmet and then only I will "kill" the engine. I feel by this way engine cools quickly by circulating oil and will provide better start next time.
                      I think,I have the reason,I learnt it from a a major jap bike company maintenance tutorial,.........hence sharing it,

                      Mordern Engine oils dont depend on the climate or the weather of the location where in the vehicle is stored.Mordern Engine oils are much more sensitive and have better viscosity ratings than the old ones.Usually for most high performance four stroke engines,if the bike is parked in the same position for 7hours or longer......the high grade engine oil,settles down,in the engine box.Hence what happens is,that on sudden operation of the engine,the oil finds it difficult to get into rhythm and move around the piston and other engine parts with high levels of viscosity.This factor leads to loss of power,smoothness of acceleration and also turns lower efficiency until the engine oil is warmed-up and activated in the usual idling or the rhythmic rpms of the engine.Most of the time,sudden acceleration from a cold start-up degrades the engine faster,since most of the engine components moves around without proper engine-oil flowing around them !!!!! and on being revved hard,it creates enormous wear and tear too

                      So it is always advisable for smooth performance from the engine,is to warm up the engine and to activate the flow of engine oil through engine parts,by switching the bike on,turning the fuel cock on,and to let the bike idle for atleast 5-6minutes in the first start up of the morning or after a long standing period.

                      The method also facilitates,the proper fuel flow from the carburetor during start-up for the rest of the day.

                      P.S.-High revving up of the engine during startup and idling warmup process should be strictly avoided.Th engine should be just started and left to idle for 5-6 minuted with the fuel cock open.
                      Hell's Angel
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                      • Bro isn't 5-6 minutes very long. Most people debate whether they should idle for 1 min or less than that. For them even idling for 1 min is high as idling always return zero mileage. All the components of the vehicle such as brakes, tires and transmission require warming up not just engine. So many suggests to idle under half a minute and run slowly till every part is warmed up. Even so many turbo charged diesel engines are asked to idle for more than a minute before riding. You have said that modern engine oils are much superior in performance to old generation oils, which have better viscosity and stability. So with in a few seconds the oil will be channeled to every essential part. Also our engine's are single cylinder and oil will reach every part much faster than multi-cylinder cars and bike.
                        Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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                        • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post

                          The engine should be just started and left to idle for 5-6 minuted with the fuel cock open.
                          Would this mean, starting the bike without the choke and just the starter and letting it idle that way ????

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                          • Originally posted by MACH50 View Post

                            let the bike idle for atleast 5-6minutes in the first start up of the morning or after a long standing period.
                            Idling a engine for 1 minute, or even 30 seconds is sufficient for coating the parts with the required oil. And it is always advisable to achieve the normal temperature of oil, as soon as possible, because in the initial few seconds of start the petrol that is being sprayed in the chamber washes off the oil from the chamber. So, as soon as, one warms-up the engine, the better it is for the life of it. So, Start the bike let it IDLE for 20-30 secs, ride 1KM without crossing 2.5-3K rpm. Usually, I IDLE for 30secs and then ride below 2.5K for 2 kms which is sufficient for warming up the engine.

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                            • Originally posted by abhichotu.abhi View Post
                              And it is always advisable to achieve the normal temperature of oil, as soon as possible, because in the initial few seconds of start the petrol that is being sprayed in the chamber washes off the oil from the chamber. So, as soon as, one warms-up the engine, the better it is for the life of it. So, Start the bike let it IDLE for 20-30 secs, ride 1KM without crossing 2.5-3K rpm. Usually, I IDLE for 30secs and then ride below 2.5K for 2 kms which is sufficient for warming up the engine.
                              Bro, your explanation seems a little odd to me, rest all are exactly what I follow. Its not the temperature of oil that should be obtained quickly but the temp of engine. An air cooled engine works efficiently in 80 degree celsius where the heat exchange is maximum. Air cooled engines heat quickly compared to water cooled and since the displacement of our engines are low,the heat produced will be lower to multi cylinder engines, the free flowing air will keep the engine temperature to its optimum temp. Though air cooled engines achieve optimum temperature quickly air cooled engines cant dissipate all the heat produced in multi cylinder engines and hence uses water cooled engines(especially inline compared to air cooled V twins).

                              There should be a thin film of oil between the piston ring and cylinder to reduce the resistance, on engine starts there wont be a film and it will take some back and forth movement of piston to form this layer of oil. The piston rings scape a thin film of oil while moving from the bottom most point to the top. This oil film is burned in every combustion cycle When oil is cold the film wont be formed and when we open the throttle just as we start the engine the piston ring will be pushed even harder to the cylinder causing wear and tear, when we idle the piston will pump oil to every essential parts such as camshaft (top most). Once the engine gets warm oil will flow freely through every part and will have least resistance, now we can open throttle as much as we want.

                              Guys this is what I know by reading numerous post in various sites and forums, please correct if I'm wrong.
                              Well-trained reflexes are quicker than luck.........

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                              • @anup: What I said was that, the spray of petrol doesnot allows the oil to form a thin film during the course of cold start. So, the wear and tear at cold start is more, thus as quickly one warms up the engine the parts will heat quickly and so is the case with oil. As the oil and the parts obtains there optimum tempreature everything will be as you explained.

                                So, the bottom line is "Idling warms a engine slower, and it is better warm the engine up quickly by putting some load on it, like riding slowly."

                                P.S: Almost all of the engines have 80'C normal operating tempreature, no matter if it is a car.

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