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**kilometerkiller** · 08-17-2014, 10:56 PM

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For reasons unclear to me, Dani slowed by almost half of a second in the last two laps. Two more laps, Lorenzo would have chased him down! The early gap Dani developed helped him later. Rossi was so relieved that he finished ahead of Marquez at least once (pun intended)! Nevertheless, a good race for him after that crash in FP.

Tough luck for Marquez this time. I just came to know this was his first ever finish off the podium in MotoGP.

**slevynhawk** · 08-18-2014, 12:02 AM

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is there any link to watch the race again..??

**J4rn0** · 08-18-2014, 02:53 AM

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Marquez and his team this time didn't get the setup right, that's all. This is not so strange, it happens (and when it happens in such a competitive field as MotoGP, to win or even podium becomes practically impossible); what's amazing is that they always got it right for the first ten races... ! If they botch it only once every eleven races, they'll dominate for the next 10 years.

**Tanzing Sherpa** · 08-18-2014, 02:33 PM

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Originally posted by kilometerkiller View Post

For reasons unclear to me, Dani slowed by almost half of a second in the last two laps. Two more laps, Lorenzo would have chased him down! The early gap Dani developed helped him later. Rossi was so relieved that he finished ahead of Marquez at least once (pun intended)! Nevertheless, a good race for him after that crash in FP.Tough luck for Marquez this time. I just came to know this was his first ever finish off the podium in MotoGP.

Danny Pedrosa got grip issue on the rear so he was bit slow but only couple of lap was left.Good for him. Marc marquez was feeling uncomfortable with his ride,setup issue. He's had never finish off the podium in moto2. He'll be ther next time.

**xionite** · 08-19-2014, 03:22 AM

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This guy. Loses the front but doesn't lose the front.

I'm pretty sure he will win at Silverstone again.

**incipient** · 08-19-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by xionite View Post

I'm pretty sure he will win at Silverstone again.

I bet he will!

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**xionite** · 08-19-2014, 05:28 PM

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Originally posted by Marc Marquez

To be honest, I could almost say that a weight has been lifted off my shoulders. For some time everyone has been asking me if I could win
all of the races in the season and from the start I said that it was unthinkable. It's almost impossible, or at least, very difficult.

Now it's something that nobody is going to think about any more and in some way I think that will allow me to work better on the second half
of the season, completely focussed. It's something that we've never doubted, but in one way or another it's an issue that is no longer going to be out there.

**kilometerkiller** · 08-19-2014, 06:24 PM

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Originally posted by xionite View Post

This guy. Loses the front but doesn't lose the front.

Same confusion here ever since I saw this. He totally lost his front, but gained traction later. How come?

**xionite** · 08-19-2014, 07:18 PM

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Originally posted by kilometerkiller View Post

Same confusion here ever since I saw this. He totally lost his front, but gained traction later. How come?

marquez' official response is "68 degrees. How? I don't know!"

so it's safe to assume that he's just as confused.

**The Monk** · 08-20-2014, 11:55 AM

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Originally posted by kilometerkiller View Post

Same confusion here ever since I saw this. He totally lost his front, but gained traction later. How come?

Two things. Marquez' immense talent and the wonderful sticky Bridgestones.

When he was down and almost crashed. Marquez did what mortals wouldn't think of doing. He cracked open the throttle a lil bit and when the bike stood up a bit he opened the throttle more and voila he was up up and away!!!

Of course if the tyres didn't have such fantastic grip his efforts would have been in vain as would have continued to slide out

EDIT: I should have mentioned. This is not my 'theory' but stuff i have read from different MotoGP sources online!!!

**itsmevini123** · 08-20-2014, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Two things. Marquez' immense talent and the wonderful sticky Bridgestones.

When he was down and almost crashed. Marquez did what mortals wouldn't think of doing. He cracked open the throttle a lil bit and when the bike stood up a bit he opened the throttle more and voila he was up up and away!!!

Of course if the tyres didn't have such fantastic grip his efforts would have been in vain as would have continued to slide out

Yes Sounds practical, rear tyre had lots of grip and front was in that position for friction of second, as soon as he opened the throttle front lifted up a bit, lean angel went straight and front wheel got the traction, power and rear tyre grip did that all and don't forget his talent, but even this does not happen every time I guess

**Makky** · 08-20-2014, 02:46 PM

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Something similar did happen in 2011 at Malaysia. Simoncelli wasn't lucky enough.

Physics can work either ways.

**xionite** · 08-20-2014, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by The Monk View Post

Two things. Marquez' immense talent and the wonderful sticky Bridgestones.

When he was down and almost crashed. Marquez did what mortals wouldn't think of doing. He cracked open the throttle a lil bit and when the bike stood up a bit he opened the throttle more and voila he was up up and away!!!

Of course if the tyres didn't have such fantastic grip his efforts would have been in vain as would have continued to slide out

EDIT: I should have mentioned. This is not my 'theory' but stuff i have read from different MotoGP sources online!!!

Absolutely. Opening the throttle in two stages. But, I would attribute this save, almost exclusively, to the Bridgestones.

I wouldn't say this particular instance was Marquez actively responding to knowing he had lost the front (and that he should give it more throttle.)

There was ZERO time to think. Zero, meaning 0.00000 (not 0.00001)

This save was more of a freak incident when the time of the incident lined up perfectly with something occurring which even he can't explain. (opening the throttle)

There's NO way he had time to think about opening up the throttle. It has virtually nothing to do with sensory input and a thought out response.

No one has motor responses that are that fast. (Motor skills. Get it?

) Not even Marquez.

For anyone who's ever ridden at a track, and has lost the front, you'll know what I mean.

Only God can save you. That's the only way you're coming out of that corner on two wheels.

It's probably safe to say that Marc Marquez will never make a save like this in his lifetime.

His 68record is safe for the foreseeable future.

Unless the wants to aim for 69.

Knowing how badass MM93 can be when trying to push himself over the limit we'll probably see him try.

God save Marc Marquez!

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**J4rn0** · 08-21-2014, 04:52 AM

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Who's old enough to remember this one?
This was long before the magic sticky Bridgestones...

...or this one for that matter

**xionite** · 08-21-2014, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by J4rn0 View Post

Who's old enough to remember this one?
This was long before the magic sticky Bridgestones...

...or this one for that matter

haha. barros did stop the front from buckling out and ended up going really wide... but i don't think he lost the front.

all i can say for the schwantz image is... good lord look at the position of his body.

how the heck did he manage that?

masterclass.

but neither of these are instances of a rider recovering from a front tyre folding in.

superb stuff though.
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