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Originally posted by Horror
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I think, the same goes for 4-wheelers too, does one ride at top speed everytime, just because his car has a V6/V8 under its hood
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Err.. this is related to country and rider. In France they hardly come below 60 kmph on everyday roads.Originally posted by Horror View Post
And me on my Pulsar 220, i do 110 kmph 2-3 times in a week ,in Pune!
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Lol 4 wheelers have all that weight to carry as well as can seat 6 people if you try lol. And has a large boot space too. That's why they have that v4 or v6 engine on them. And a car is safer(dunno why i said that just thought i would, lol) So the weight to engine proportion of a car and bike stay almost the same...Originally posted by Omega Man View PostI think, the same goes for 4-wheelers too, does one ride at top speed everytime, just because his car has a V6/V8 under its hood
@nitrosatya: Ok dude...lol....I haven't been to france but I do know that the people there drive their bikes fast.... But I was obviously speaking with respect to India....Well good for you..... YOu could easily achieve 110 with the CBR....so don't worry...DRIVE SAFELast edited by Horror; 12-02-2010, 04:45 PM.I would rather be riding my bike thinking of God, than sitting in the temple thinking of my bike.Comment
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Sorry, you lost me there, dunno what the fuss is all aboutOriginally posted by Horror View Post
I thot you are trying to justify something else that NitroSatya has rightly responded to.
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Lol never mind dude .... We'll just wait for the bike to come out and decide then...lol :POriginally posted by Omega Man View PostSorry, you lost me there, dunno what the fuss is all about
I thot you are trying to justify something else that NitroSatya has rightly responded to.I would rather be riding my bike thinking of God, than sitting in the temple thinking of my bike.Comment
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You all are great geniuses.
Also, all things fails including parts in a Honda product during the life of the product. I would not like to see my wheels locked abruptly or locked permanently in the middle of nowhere, anytime during the life cycle of the bike due to some electrical malfunction or bad ECU. For me, hydraulic system based braking is more reliable and easily repairable. My priorities are clear and loud. Go ahead, no one is stopping anyone from buying an ABS bike. No dispute at all.
Last edited by Technician; 12-02-2010, 05:09 PM.The Original CBZComment
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In a few posts I have noticed people saying that since the R15 or the Ninja does not have ABS I will also get the Non-ABS version of the CBR.
To me this logic seems a bit silly, like all safety features it is better to have them and not need it instead of other way around!
First of all ABS is a safety feature and 99.99% of the time will not be doing anything. ABS as in cars only steps in when it detects wheel lock (In which case you are going to mostly skid and fall!)
Do not confuse Honda's implementation of ABS to the one which I have seen locally available here. (The mechanical kind!) I have ridden a Pulsar with that in Delhi. The brake was all mushy and no feel.
For me ABS is one the major reasons for upgrading to the Honda from my beloved FZ
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Well said CR.Originally posted by CountRock View PostIn a few posts I have noticed people saying that since the R15 or the Ninja does not have ABS I will also get the Non-ABS version of the CBR.
To me this logic seems a bit silly, like all safety features it is better to have them and not need it instead of other way around!
First of all ABS is a safety feature and 99.99% of the time will not be doing anything. ABS as in cars only steps in when it detects wheel lock (In which case you are going to mostly skid and fall!)
Do not confuse Honda's implementation of ABS to the one which I have seen locally available here. (The mechanical kind!) I have ridden a Pulsar with that in Delhi. The brake was all mushy and no feel.
For me ABS is one the major reasons for upgrading to the Honda from my beloved FZ
Try saying that to Technician, hes got his own axe to grind. Wants to ride his CBZ for the rest of his life, as it is the first & the last and the only safest bike in this world.
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Dude I dunno why are you filled with so much hate for that poor upcoming bike :P Whose price is not yet fixed, who's performance is not yet tested and who's critics have not been yet said (Off course by experts). It clearly states, You disapprove it and hate it with your life and we agree with you!!! Just stop with that, Whats the point in pushing your s*** over to others
Like (Fancy words) BLA BLA BLA, I don't like it ... Don't buy!
Again (Fancy assumptions) BLA BLA BLA, It will kill me ... Don't buy! (Yes the ABS)
Dude, Get a life.
Sorry mod's if I over-reacted. Guys like these sickens me!
P.S: I know as soon as this posted ... I can expect a greater flaming reply from you ... Well seriously ... Past post from ya resembles that Replying to them like an idiot will take this thread way more off-topic, Which I will not do (As this thread already went way too off-topical).
P.P.S: To be frank, You are the greatest genius Seriously! (Well not :P)
+1Originally posted by Technician View PostYou all are great geniuses.
Also, all things fails including parts in a Honda product during the life of the product. I would not like to see my wheels locked abruptly or locked permanently in the middle of nowhere, anytime during the life cycle of the bike due to some electrical malfunction or bad ECU. For me, hydraulic system based braking is more reliable and easily repairable. My priorities are clear and loud. Go ahead, no one is stopping anyone from buying an ABS bike. No dispute at all.
Originally posted by Omega Man View PostWell said CR. Try saying that to Technician, hes got his own axe to grind. Wants to ride his CBZ for the rest of his life, as it is the first & the last and the only safest bike in this world.2011 - CBR 250R (RED, Delivered) - Happy Man! - SOLD
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That is the crux. The damage of a bike not starting due to electrical malfunction is just nothing in comparison of the brake of the same bike not working suddenly when you are doing 140+ speed. Go and surely buy ABS.Lol... in that case bike even won;t start/move an inch
And why not. Your comments are just nothing in comparison of what some maniacs were discussing one fine day about CBZ.Wants to ride his CBZ for the rest of his life, as it is the first & the last and the only safest bike in this world.
At least, we are more committed than a person who changes his bikes more often and have owned more bikes than the husbands owned by the legend of Kunti of Mahabharat.I have a CBZ back home and i am very attached to it, i am so attached that if i have to choose i will choose my CBZ over Ninja 650R.
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Yeah same goes with me as well Love my CBZ more than my Ninja 250R. Its like a brother to me 
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Yeah, for me also, it has to be CBZ over any other bike sold in India, anyday.
About the safety and road manners of CBZ, along with RTR and ZMA, it is also one of the bike which is used for track purpose in modified form in down south India. CHeck yourself.
@Bladeboy - If feeling so pinched by some of great geniuses here, why don't you request Mod to Lock the thread for the time being. Or otherwise, let the thing continue. It helps us all to sharpen our arguing skills. Young mates are learning how to argue. Let them do so in company of older people.
Last edited by Technician; 12-02-2010, 06:44 PM.The Original CBZComment
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Disclaimer: No personal attack intended...Originally posted by Technician View PostThat is the crux. The damage of a bike not starting due to electrical malfunction is just nothing in comparison of the brake of the same bike not working suddenly when you are doing 140+ speed. Go and surely buy ABS.
FYI... An article about ABS systems
excerpt: "Should a failure occur in the ABS control electronics, most systems will deactivate themselves. The ABS warning light will come on, but the vehicle should still have normal braking. This does not necessarily make the vehicle unsafe to drive, but it does mean the ABS system will not be there if needed in an emergency"
Hope it clears your wories...I like 'em Naked
Blah Blah Blah!
Reason is not automatic. Those who choose not to recognise it, can't be conquered by it.
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^^^^Yippie I feel safer, my tyres wont stop rotating!!!!....lol(kidding)I would rather be riding my bike thinking of God, than sitting in the temple thinking of my bike.Comment
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Ugh... ABS is an add-on to a normal brake system. It cannot apply brakes nor can it fully release brakes. All it can do is temporarily reduce the pressure in the brake line to make sure the wheel keeps rotating. And yes, when an ABS system fails it should behave just like normal brakes, including the wheel locking when braking too hard.
ABS isn't the silver bullet that will save you from crashing. Heck, it doesn't even shorten your braking distance, if your name is Rossi. But for most of us, when panic braking it will help you keep the rubber side down, and possibly even get you to a halt quicker than when you don't have it, since you don't have to be afraid of locking the wheel.
It won't save you from kissing mother earth while doing something stupid, like hitting a corner too fast or something like that, but having it is better than not having it. Which sums up the whole point about ABS: It has it's downsides, but the upsides more than compensate for them.Comment
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And you thought I would get offended at all.Disclaimer: No personal attack intended... I have seen much more in life perhaps than any of you young fellas. I still consider all of you electronic form of young miscreant brothers. Nothing more.
What you posted is theory. What happens in actual world is a bit complex. Read to see both sides of the coin. Also remember, Indian system will have to cope up with a dog peeing on braking system more often.
Read this, a three-year long thread on a famous forum. That too about a premium bike. You will understand.
I-ABS III Anti-Lock Brake Failure during Ride (Investigating) - Page 3 - ADVrider
And remember, more people die due to hitting something in front of their vehicle than due to locking their tyres. Though I have some of my own reasons.
We will start tomorrow again.Last edited by Technician; 12-02-2010, 07:28 PM.The Original CBZComment
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