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Now that's a news to me, oz when i asked the showroom manager he said that there's no 250 on cards, but he said of the upgraded R15... May be not true.Originally posted by tibby View PostThanks Vaibhav for taking all the pics, & sharing with us.
After today's sighting, it is definitely clear than a fresh looking R15 is on the cards from Yamaha. The bike looks visually nice with the new tail panel, split seats, LED tail lamp, & upgraded rear fender
According to me, the bike will only be an upgraded R15, with the upgrades being in the looks department only (again)!
The drive chain looks the same as the current one, hence I don't see the possibility of a bigger engine. But with reduction in weight (courtesy newer rims), a wider tyre can't be ruled out.
Also, I don't think they will re-tune the 149.8cc engine, coz if they wanted to, they would have done so at the launch itself (which was after initially testing bikes dishing out figures of 23-24 bhp).
The R15's tail section had already faced enough criticism since the bike was showcased at the 2008 auto Expo, hence this change is a welcome step.
Regarding new pricing, I think the bike might retail for the same price as the current models, as with localised production of parts, Yamaha was already making better margins than when the bike was originally launched (one of the reasons for the high pricing was imported parts).
The FZ that we see in the pics might be the Fazer250! (Yamaha is launching the Fazer250 tentatively in May 2011).
But from what I had learnt, the Fazer250 would be the global model, which looks very different from the FZ series of bikes. So, I'm confused with the FZ sighting!
Anyways, keeping my fingers crossed.
Yamaha is definitely bracing itself to face the upcoming competition from other manufacturers.
Yes Yamaha!

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Did i miss something? When did they test bikes with 23-24bhp? I've heard of that TP1/TP2 BS from someone who had visited their factory amongst other BS. But was this out in some press launch? Seems like I am grossly outdated on this front.Originally posted by tibby View PostAccording to me, the bike will only be an upgraded R15, with the upgrades being in the looks department only (again)!
The drive chain looks the same as the current one, hence I don't see the possibility of a bigger engine. But with reduction in weight (courtesy newer rims), a wider tyre can't be ruled out.
Also, I don't think they will re-tune the 149.8cc engine, coz if they wanted to, they would have done so at the launch itself (which was after initially testing bikes dishing out figures of 23-24 bhp).
No point in waiting for yamaha to do something radical and launch it. They've done their research and have come out with a cosmetic upgrade and for all those who cried for a bigger rear tyre, they're giving them what they want. Now everyone's pretty happy with these. But it's good enough for those who cant have enough of the looks on the bike. And their 24 HP setup will remain in their closet for good.--------------------------------
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Yes. Heard that from a friend who visited the Yamaha factory (I'm sorry I can't give his/her name).Originally posted by saj View Post@tibby: fazer 250?? may'11?? what is this now??
Infact the Yamaha guys themselves wanted word to be out on this I believe.
The TP1's were 23-24bhp bikes. Didn't make it to the roads due to emission & other regulations I believe. They will remain at the Surajpur plant for good! (I sometimes get the feeling that the R15s at the Press Launch at MMSC, were TP1sOriginally posted by KwokFist View PostDid i miss something? When did they test bikes with 23-24bhp? I've heard of that TP1/TP2 BS from someone who had visited their factory amongst other BS. But was this out in some press launch? Seems like I am grossly outdated on this front.
No point in waiting for yamaha to do something radical and launch it. They've done their research and have come out with a cosmetic upgrade and for all those who cried for a bigger rear tyre, they're giving them what they want. Now everyone's pretty happy with these. But it's good enough for those who cant have enough of the looks on the bike. And their 24 HP setup will remain in their closet for good.
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Agree with the point in bold. It would only be a cosmetic upgrade.
The showrrom guys know as much as we do, unless the bike is due for a launch very soon. They are informed a month or so in advance, for the trainings (for the bike), & meetings.Originally posted by Binoy View PostNow that's a news to me, oz when i asked the showroom manager he said that there's no 250 on cards, but he said of the upgraded R15... May be not true.
@tibby can you share the source info?
My views on the YZF-R15 V2.0: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/198...tml#post699240
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atleast tell us the genderOriginally posted by tibby View PostYes. Heard that from a friend who visited the Yamaha factory (I'm sorry I can't give his/her name).
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ya, even I heard that time that R15 was initially R20 or something with 22 bhp+ but was restricted to what it is now, due to possible above reasons and additional premium pricingOriginally posted by tibby View PostThe TP1's were 23-24bhp bikes. Didn't make it to the roads due to emission & other regulations I believe.www.motorcykle.in - The lighter side of motorcycling
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At most a bunch of prototypes which Yamaha will never launch for their 'own reasons'Originally posted by tibby View PostThe TP1's were 23-24bhp bikes. Didn't make it to the roads due to emission & other regulations I believe. They will remain at the Surajpur plant for good! (I sometimes get the feeling that the R15s at the Press Launch at MMSC, were TP1s
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I think Yamaha just gave some speculative crap to the guy/SZ team who visited the factory on the SZ tour to spice things up after their return back home. AFAIK that guy (amongst all the things he told me) did mention if i remember correctly that he 'did not ride' the bike. No pics ever spilled over anywhere probably due to 'obvious reasons'. I think it's all just hearsay with no facts to back it up. Yamaha probably pointed at an old batch of R15s and said look kids they are the most powerful R15s we've ever built. And threw in a decent figure of 24HP to satisfy their curiosity.
If they really had a fast bike we'd have some info out from our friends from the automotive industry. But I don't subscribe to auto-magazines apart from xbhp so I wouldn't know anyway. But know enough people who get the inside info. Will find out about the authenticity of these claims soon enough.
AFAIK The bikes at Press Launch were 20P bikes.
Not TP1. 20P bikes you and I now own!
Male.Originally posted by pulsater View Postatleast tell us the gender
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The current engine is not detuned version of any more powerful engine. Everything else remains to be speculation until proven otherwise.--------------------------------
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Hmm.....Some time back there was rumor about a FZ250.A 250cc engine from an existing model in Thailand,i guess,was being tested by plonking it into the existing FZ chassis.
Hence saving cost of R&D on a new chassis.and as we know the FZ is able to handle big engines.Smoke rubber,not tobacco.
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22bhp+, but it was still the R15, as Yamaha calls the R series bikes after the cc.Originally posted by pulsater View Postya, even I heard that time that R15 was initially R20 or something with 22 bhp+ but was restricted to what it is now, due to possible above reasons and additional premium pricing
I'm sure they would have launched it if it was possible. Testing a 23-24bhp bike for keeping it in the godown was definitely not their intent.Originally posted by KwokFist View PostAt most a bunch of prototypes which Yamaha will never launch for their 'own reasons'
I know. I was kidding, coz the press was too happy.Originally posted by KwokFist View PostAFAIK The bikes at Press Launch were 20P bikes.
Not TP1. 20P bikes you and I now own!
My views on the YZF-R15 V2.0: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/news/198...tml#post699240
The pleasure is when your rear wheel slides, and you bring it back; and when the front wheel lifts, you take your time bringing it back.
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But that's what they've done. No point in bragging we have faster bikes, if they can't launch the damn thing! Or probably they couldn't get enough FE from that setup to satisfy the public to actually launch the bike.Originally posted by tibby View PostI'm sure they would have launched it if it was possible. Testing a 23-24bhp bike for keeping it in the godown was definitely not their intent.
I'll wait till this bike is launched. If worthwhile I'll upgrade the rear tail assembly if it can be retrofitted as I intend to retain my bike for a couple more years atleast, and wouldn't mind if it had a little more aesthetic appeal. If not just work on my performance build which as we speak is nudging 19.5-20HP
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Wait,the FZ seems to have drums at the rear...so i doubt its a new one.Smoke rubber,not tobacco.
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Kwok: a certain xBHP member who also got a chance of riding the test mule did confirm that there were multiple test mules. Infact even the fz had 3 setups, the r15 wasn't rejected due to emission; it was held back for mileage issues and yamahas perception of their service centres back then.Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more
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then can you tell me how was the other FZ s looked like from the current one??Originally posted by satyenpoojary View PostKwok: a certain xBHP member who also got a chance of riding the test mule did confirm that there were multiple test mules. Infact even the fz had 3 setups, the r15 wasn't rejected due to emission; it was held back for mileage issues and yamahas perception of their service centres back then.sigpicBOND BETWEEN 2 LEGS & 2 WHEELS.....CAN SURPASS ANY BOUNDARY....
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In which case I stand corrected. Was waiting for an update from a credible person. Thanks Satyen.Originally posted by satyenpoojary View PostKwok: a certain xBHP member who also got a chance of riding the test mule did confirm that there were multiple test mules. Infact even the fz had 3 setups, the r15 wasn't rejected due to emission; it was held back for mileage issues and yamahas perception of their service centres back then.
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They looked same, the test mules run on a combination of cycle parts, so a different state of tune on each machine. They test it for endurance, mileage etc.Originally posted by cscsarkar331 View Postthen can you tell me how was the other FZ s looked like from the current one??
The FZ (from what little I know) had two engine setups one running the current 153cc mill, and another running a 153 detuned mill, and finally a smaller mill.
Now it seems like the detuned mill was improvised and plonnked in the SZ series (speculation) so its quite possible that the more powerful R15 setup could have been used to build upon to be plonked in the newer machines.Super CommuTOURer� - Talk less, Ride more
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