chrome molybdenum steel is supposedly much stronger, so are they plannng something bigger than the 390 as well

so probably pulsar 375 will be the last pulsar...and they will go with the UG1 UG2 etc with the new gen pulsars like they did with the p150/180 and probably after a couple of years they may add a higher displacement pulsar but i am sure their bread and butter pulsar models at lower displacement ad difference of 15/30/20/20 cc will remain...

there is ABS
there is a bigger engine
the different and stronger frame(this one is doubtfull)

cant think of anything else...probably the gearbox??(the gear ratios mentioned on the website are different for 200 and 390 so probably its a new gearbox all together with more weight)

well they could first price the duke 390 at a price slightly below the cbr250 abs version as an "INTRODUCTORY" price and then hike the price by a good 20-25K(with tax included)

Steel is basically Iron with a litlle carbon to provide good strength

adding chrome and molybdenum makes it a even harder steel(no idea about increase in weight or no increase)

so the frames are different speaking in the type of raw material used...now i don know if the design of the frame is same or not..may be it is but still bajaj has to make new dies and they could make it a bigger frame(the wheel base is surely different so it is a different frame)

I think most of us here are not expecting FI/ABS/fairing on Pulsar 375. Those 3 will definitely pump up the cost of P375. If P375 is also going to make 40-44 bhp and comes with FI/ABS, then it better be faired bike. Having two naked bikes with same features/power really doesn't help. So, may be next Pulsar is fully-faired one!

Thats because they are all revolving in just 70cc and all are almost similar to each other.

But in between 200NS and 375cc, there is a difference of 175cc with different features. And also it won't be same as the earlier series of Pulsar from 150 to 220.
If a CBR250R with just 25Bhp is priced at 1.5L then why won't the Pulsar 375 with around 40Bhp would be priced higher at around 2L? That would be a bargain too. As normally a bike of such capability should be priced around 3L. :P
Change your mentality guys.

we expect killer pricing because they have priced bikes in such a way giving the most bang for your buck

if the company can produce a pulsar200NS like bike in just 60K (yes..remove the road tax,octroi,first time insurance,sales tax,vat,etc etc the deduction also includes the ~20% profit margin they maintain) they surely we can hope they get a 375 cc bike within 1.7 lakhs

CBr250 retails for 1.7 and not 1.5 and the ABS is approximately 2L

and well i feel cbr 250 is overpriced...but maybe i am wrong...

and the price of the bike isnt just dependent on cc of the bike...but a lot more other factors

I'm surprised that you are not expecting either of the three. I for one is expecting 2/3 of the above things. 375 on a single cylinder without FI is too much too ask for, don't mind a naked in 375 avatar with slight tweaks in design here and there to make it look beefier

Nah, CC/Power difference is not much. If you compare power P200 is now making 23 bhp & CBR250 is making only 25bhp!! but still CBR 250 retails in excess of 1.5 lakhs. May be it's overpriced or may be it's another way of saying we don't have many options in that segment.

Honestly, I wasn't expecting ABS/Fairing on Pulsar, since Pulsars are generally naked. ABS will definitely add cost to the bike and may be Bajaj would like to skip it to keep the price in check. One more thing is that I didn't expect it to make 40-44 bhp, was expecting below 40 bhp as I thought Bajaj would like to keep some difference between Duke & Pulsar (again i thought both of them will be naked)

ABS I also doubt but I'm expecting power figures close to 40 based on the P200NS/Duke 200 power figures

in all possibility P375 will not be priced higher than 1.7 lakhs and there will be a clear difference of atleast 70-80,000 between P375 and D390, that places Duke above CBR250.

When they launched 200NS , they clearly said, anything bigger will carry FI and Projector lamps. I am 95% sure that 375cc Bajja bike will have at-least semi-fairing.They may call it pulsar or whatever.

With a 375 single without FI, bajaj may have to install 6 plugs to produce efficiency they are used to. So we can assume its FI.

But actually inspite of everything, I have seen a big difference in 200NS and Duke 200. Especially how they ride and the character.

As the class goes high i is not a very good idea to have multiple nakeds. Go make a tourer with 40hp.

(I am ready to wait for 1 more year to see a twin, as the heart of very first bajaj track bike)


Back to Duke 390:

Indian Automotive websites says 43 to 45 PS (on various websites).
This thread says 44 PS

and official site says: 44 HP ie 44.6 PS to be precise.

Why various sources reports various values?

Hi,
I started a separate thread on this, but couldnt spot it now(mods didnt approve?) - guess it wasnt required. Anyway, here is the news

Breaking News !!! (2-3 days old now)

The fully-faired KTM sports bike ....will be called KTM Moto3 (irrespective of the engine capacity) - bcos the Moto3 racing series uses 250cc whereas the experts in the forum know KTM has only a 125cc, 200cc and a 390cc (375?)

Name: KTM Moto3 (no reference to 'Duke')
Sequence: First 125cc and 200cc, eventually a 390cc (end of next year in UK)
Looks: EXACTLY the same as KTM Moto3 racing bike (of course with lights and blinkers, and better seats and stand...and our traditional saree-guard for India!!!)
Power/Engine: No changes to the existing engine state of tune. 44bhp for the 390
Weight: No changes to the dry weight at 138kg for the 390

Questions to our forum:

- How can the weight of the full fairing be 0 kgs?

- How soon can our xbhp resident experts do a photo render of the sporty road bike based on existing Moto3 racing bike with some neat headlight, tail, mirrors, number plate and saree-guard?

Source: Bike UK, Dec 2012 issue. A supplement on new KTM 1190 Adventure
Interview of the KTM CEO himself (no need to second guess on the authenticity!!!)

KTM Duke 390 unveiled with 44 PS & 139 kg dry weight. Killer pricing expected.

Old news. The Moto3 faired 125/200/390 is expected in 2014. Look around for KTM future plans leaked pictures. Let's not continue going OT.

A picture for the above wud be great..
Did the CEO say that the bike will be avaialble/produced in India??

this is actually a good strategy, a lot of manufacturers only focus on faired bikes, while some focus only on naked bikes, and thus ...always miss out on a particular segment of buyers. i believe if you have a good bike, a good engine and chassis, and a good design team, almost all bikes shouls have a faired and a naked version so that there is a bike for every segment of buyers.

I'm still finding it hard to digest that the 390 is coming in the same 'everything' as the 200.

The 200 itself its pretty much 'on-the-edge', curious to see how it handles the bigger motor!