Current pricing for Duke 200 is around 1.5lac OTR. So as per your estimates, the 44Ps Duke 390 ABS will be launched at a price which is exactly the same as the 25Ps CBR250R ABS?

its most probable that they price it aggressively.abs would mostly be an option anyway.the bike has the right combo of weight and power.tyres thou even if mrf should be specifically designed for handling the extra torque(and also during braking).like i hear that the tyres on r15 are good;mrf.

hope they dont price the abs option on par with cars like honda cbr does.30k extra!not doubting the value of abs here.

You are forgetting the fact that the other two bikes mentioned are fuel injected... while the 200NS still employs a carb.

Haain? He has mentioned 4 bikes in his post. All 4 sport FI 4-valve/cylinder DOHC engines.

In my view the price will also depend on if KTM is planning any new model in between D200 and D390 and i expect a new Duke in between these. Also I recollect that Mr Bajaj said in one of the interview, that currently they are working on 4-5 models/variants for Duke.

D200 and D390 are from different platforms where both are higher end versions possible in their respective platforms. While D200 has lower end version in terms of D125 there is no lower end version of D390 which is yet to be disclosed to public. To gain economies they might come out with new Duke, something like D290.

I think this is possible if we look from Pulsar angle. There is a variant of Pulsar at every price point till 90K and new P375 should be somewhere around 150K. This will leave lot of gap both in terms of price and CC between P200 and P375. so defintely there will new pulsar/duke somewhere near 300cc to fill the gap and also gain economies of scale of the platform.

So to conclude i do not think D200 and D375 will be priced very closely. they need to maintain gap for new varaints.

+1 to that. Looking at how a Bajaj used to price Pulsar twins and how they have managed to price D200, D390 should not cost more than 60k over D200.



And where are they gonna assemble it buddy? It will only take up more space in factory and waste R&D funds rather than gain any economy. Wonder why Pulsar 200 DTS-i was discontinued?

I don't think KTM will be interested in getting another Duke under 500 cc, that too especially after the D390. And I don't think Bajaj would release another pulsar between the 200 and their upcoming 375 cc as well. Maybe some other model of Bajaj might be released in the 200~500 range. If you ask me it would be a waste of resources to produce another model between the 200 and 390 considering the fact that the current pricing itself might cannibalize the lower(200 and 125) segment, introducing another will just make it worse.

I think Pulsar 375 will not be priced over the D200, just my guess. If you look at Discover/Pulsar pricing, even the biggest Discover sits below smallest Pulsar as far as the pricing goes. I'm expecting the same thing to happen even with Duke/Pulsar. But, you never know, if P375 comes with FI, it might well be priced over Duke 200.

As far as D390 pricing goes, they can very well price it atleast 50k above CBR250 ABS and still expect to do good numbers, after all going by specs, it can have CBR250 for breakfast.

I don't see any reason why not?

Quite literally apart from the bigger engine and ABS there isn't anything extra on the bike that they'd price it too much higher, at max I don't see this bike going above a lakh more than the D200.

I think Bajaj has evolved, and they have played enough of the 20-30cc upgrade game. I think they'd stick to the 'proper' upgrade in engine size and not introduce anything in between the 200 and 390.

But what I'm more interested in is the possibility of other variants of the Duke390.



I think you missed the following lines

Don't fully agree with your first assessment. Hitherto, Pulsars were radical only in the technology they employed, never in aspects of convenience. Even the pioneering P220 DTS Fi was a perfectly fine bike to live with; both for rider and pillion- in the Indian riding landscape. (Read rear seat, fuel tank capacity etc)

I understand KTM's Ready To Race philosophy and their funda of mass centralization and reducing weight, but what they have done is consciously alienated a section of riders that is looking for a top-notch big bike from a global brand with performance to match that's also comfortable to live with (without paying as much as a htachback... )

in my opinion, if duke 390 is manufactured in india, then it may be priced, somewhere in the region of 2.5 Lakhs Ex-showroom, thus making it On-road price "not drastically less than ninja".

1) this way it will not eat away into ninja 250 sales as its price will be somewhat comparable to ninja250.
2) it will maintain its premium tag by not being too much cheap.
3) and still clearly distinguishing from it from affordable 250 CC class i.e. CBR250.
4) this way it will be premium and at the same time great VFM, as compared to ninja250 ... you see more power, more CC, less weight, less price.
5) also traditionally bajaj is known to place its products in non existent segments, CC wise and price wise and creating a new segment. as of now, there is no bike in 2 to 3 lakh category and this will fit in nicely.

what remains to be seen is where will they position pulsar 375..?? somewhere in the region of CBR 250, if it happens, and if it has FI and ABS, CBR is doomed. specially if it has full fairing and killer looks. positioning of pulsar 375 will play a major role in indian bike market specially in 1.5 lakhs to 2.5 lakhs segment.

other option is pulsar 375 comes without FI and ABS and priced at 1.5 lakhs = cheap fun.

So, while we all are speculating, let me go one step further

Lets have a look at the offerings from BAL/KTM a year from now. For convenience, we will include only the engine options currently/will definitely be made in Pune.

Pulsar 200NS : 1lac
Pulsar 375$%: 1.35lac
Duke 200 : 1.5lac
Pulsar 375$% ABS : 1.55lac
Duke 200 ABS: 1.7lac
Duke 390 : 1.8lac
Duke 390 ABS: 2 lac

Lets see how much of this comes out correct. At least the pricing order should be close enough.
P.S.: The above is all speculation.

^^ if your speculation comes true it will be wonderful, but a Duke390with ABS at 2 Lacs, very difficult.

Finally joining the discussion

A Pulsar 375 at 1.35 sounds too unrealistic to me. And even if it comes at that price I for one will not buy it as it will give a perception of too cheap and doubt will be created in my mind about its quality.

A naked P375 on NS lines should cost around 1.5lakh and a Full Fairing another 25-30k more. Even at those price they will be ultimate VFM

Pulsar 200NS at sub 1lac was also unrealistic. That particular bike had enough equipment to justify a 1.1lac price tag at launch (not 94k OTR). Especially considering now that Duke 200 costs roughly 1.5 lac . Pricing the Pulsar 375 at Duke 390 levels is just too easy for them. Make them work hard . Bajaj has the habit of doing the unrealistic, let them continue their habit.