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**Samarth 619** · 10-03-2012, 10:15 PM

Rajarshi's topic approved and merged here. So, this news brings a different side to the story: it says it is a 375cc single cylinder.

My overall perception based from all interviews and news over the past 3 years is that: the 375 cc bike is from a KTM single cylinder 350cc dirt bike, while Bajaj does have DTSi multicylinder motorcycle engines (upto 750cc) lying in their R&D centre. They're waiting for the right time to work upon them.
Now, this is not a rumor, but its based on all the news and interviews I read online itself.

**rharish90** · 10-03-2012, 10:30 PM

375 cc

375 cc would be very ideal. But at this level, the refinement and reliability needs to be really high. Also it would need a few necessary touring related features. Like windshield, facility for luggage mount, electrically adjustable suspension and I know it's asking for a lot but a shaft drive! I don't know if bajaj is up for it. Because at this level when it will start getting visibility amidst popular global touring bikes. I am keeping my fingers crossed :-)

**mid** · 10-03-2012, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by rharish90 View Post

375 cc would be very ideal. But at this level, the refinement and reliability needs to be really high. Also it would need a few necessary touring related features. Like windshield, facility for luggage mount, electrically adjustable suspension and I know it's asking for a lot but a shaft drive! I don't know if bajaj is up for it. Because at this level when it will start getting visibility amidst popular global touring bikes. I am keeping my fingers crossed :-)

This is it?? Do you miss something?

**princesirohi** · 10-04-2012, 03:12 AM

it is still quite far off, as a lot of rumors are floating. some similar news-->

Bajaj Plans Pulsar 375, No Full Faired Pulsar 200 | Motor Junkies

Bajaj alongwith KTM working on Pulsar 375 ~ Wheel-O-Mania

some say 2013, some say march 2014.

some say 32 BHP, some say 35-38 BHP.

anybody has any concrete info..??

if it is 375, it should produce 40+ BHP or atleast 38 BHP, but that is just a wish.

**nitrosatya** · 10-04-2012, 10:15 AM

Originally posted by rharish90 View Post

375 cc would be very ideal. But at this level, the refinement and reliability needs to be really high. Also it would need a few necessary touring related features. Like windshield, facility for luggage mount, electrically adjustable suspension and I know it's asking for a lot but a shaft drive! I don't know if bajaj is up for it. Because at this level when it will start getting visibility amidst popular global touring bikes. I am keeping my fingers crossed :-)

Now this is a dilemma. Some of us want a supersport and some of us want a tourer. In the end Bajaj will make something that will resemble the P220. A faired streetbike. I am hoping that they don't do that. They don't dilute the sporty nature of the bike and make it a less aggressive tourer. I sincerely hope for a R15 style aggressive stance sportsbike. But little difficult given the stance of P200 NS.

OR

They can make a supersport and a separate tourer! Pulsar 375R [for race] and Discover 375 ST with an upright riding position!

**VaibhavPisal** · 10-04-2012, 03:07 PM

Originally posted by payeng View Post

Back in 2008 when Yamaha showed its R15 and FZ.. the sentiment at xBhp for Bajaj and Pulsars was at an all time low. Back then many were "Fed Up" with the Pulsar tank and also the Pulsar name (good thing BAL didn't pay heed and did not scrape the Pulsar brand)..!!

Looks like the goodwill for Bajaj/Pulsar has returned in 2012.

your post is funny. just because a bunch of geeks at a forum are feeling low about a brand, bajaj will scrape a multi-million seller brand.

**s_hari** · 10-04-2012, 04:33 PM

This news was already posted in news section couple of weeks back. reproducing it here for more visibility.

Source: Business Standard

It took nearly 30 years for Bajaj Auto to move from the ubiquitous Chetak scooter to the flashy Pulsar. However, today the Pune-based company doesn’t take that long a period to bring out a new brand. The company will soon become the first Indian company to not just manufacture but also to design and develop high performance bikes.
Rajiv Bajaj-led Bajaj Auto, India's second biggest motorcycle producer, will soon start developing 400 cc super bikes for Austrian bike maker KTM.

Bajaj Auto, which holds 47 per cent equity in KTM, already manufactures Duke 125 cc and 200 cc models for KTM from the Chakan plant. Duke is sold in India as well as in Japan and Europe. Over the next two-three years Bajaj Auto will carry out all projects of KTM having engine capacities up to 400cc from scratch to final product. These include designing, styling, engineering, testing of engines and vehicles, most of which were hitherto done outside India.
Speaking to Business Standard, Rajiv Bajaj, managing director of Bajaj Auto says: "We have plans to rapidly go up from the 125cc Duke not only in terms of engine capacity but also in terms of styling and designing. For the next couple of years, we have some very interesting designs on high-performance bikes lined up for introductions starting with early 2013.”
Last year, Bajaj Auto started shipping made-in-India products of KTM back to its home market, Austria. The 125cc KTM Duke has also been selling in Japan since early this year, beating Yamaha India that ships R15 bikes, which are made in India, back to Japan.
“Although there is no hard and fast rule, all the bikes (of KTM) which are planned for the next 2-3 years will be entirely developed at our R&D in Akurdi and they will be all be manufactured at our plant in Chakan. They will be sold in other parts of the world and India,” says Bajaj.
Over the next two years, four or five new products of KTM will hit the Indian and international markets. These bikes are sold through select Bajaj sales outlets in India and by KTM in export markets.
“There are various platforms and a twin cylinder platform under consideration. Essentially we have agreed that almost all KTM motorcycles up to 400cc will be designed and developed in India. That is why the 375cc (Pulsar) is also being done,” adds Bajaj.
The new generation Pulsar 200NS shares its engine, the platform and a host of components with the KTM Duke 200. Both are manufactured from the same facility in Pune. However, both are priced differently in the market with the Pulsar being cheaper.
As per the mutual agreement between Bajaj and KTM, the Indian company will restrict itself from entering the space above 400cc for the time being. However, Bajaj could revisit its strategies over time.
"We see ourselves in terms of relevance not to go too higher because then people won’t buy our products. So up to 400cc, we can build a market. As time passes, naturally we will have to recalibrate to the evolution of the market. KTM is already very strong in 990cc and above, which of course will be continued to be done out of Austria,” says Bajaj.
While the super bike segment of 990cc and above remains with KTM, Bajaj is eyeing the segment a shade below -- bikes with engines between 400cc and 990cc. Bringing those beasts to India may be one hell of a ride.

Now its official that bajaj is developing high end bikes which include twin cylinder bikes. In couple of years we will see lots of models(5 to 6) bikes below 400 cc. The first one is expected in next 6-9 months which is not far away. Market is really heating up.

**AntiqueBlue** · 10-04-2012, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

it is still quite far off, as a lot of rumors are floating. some similar news-->

Bajaj Plans Pulsar 375, No Full Faired Pulsar 200 | Motor Junkies

Bajaj alongwith KTM working on Pulsar 375 ~ Wheel-O-Mania

some say 2013, some say march 2014.

some say 32 BHP, some say 35-38 BHP.

anybody has any concrete info..??

if it is 375, it should produce 40+ BHP or atleast 38 BHP, but that is just a wish.

A friend with good inside connection said a target of 47bhp is set for 375 duke engine, so we can expect similar power. and in his words "wait for it, Pulsar 375 is going to make you drool"...

**tusharsmoily** · 10-04-2012, 08:08 PM

I want the 375 engine to be quick and high revving and not the low revving torquey engine. Just a wish!

**princesirohi** · 10-04-2012, 11:20 PM

^^ concept is good, and that is how it should be,.. a tourer and a sports bike. just don't name it a discover.

**Rtrlover83** · 10-05-2012, 08:16 AM

Originally posted by AntiqueBlue View Post

A friend with good inside connection said a target of 47bhp is set for 375 duke engine, so we can expect similar power. and in his words "wait for it, Pulsar 375 is going to make you drool"...

47 Bhp should certainly be it from the 375 Duke when figures are compared with that of the 200 Duke. But, the 375 will be having a completely new engine as increasing the bore of the 200 to 375 is nearly impossible. I presume 142 kgs kerb weight for the 375. Power to weight ratio would be staggering. It might come badged as the KTM 390 Duke.
Would be nice with an all matte black body with the trellis frame painted orange and a more comfortable pillion seat.

**somen1984** · 10-05-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by princesirohi View Post

^^ concept is good, and that is how it should be,.. a tourer and a sports bike. just don't name it a discover.

Absolutley!!

**nitro.1000bhp** · 10-05-2012, 09:04 PM

What I heard, It is going to be an overbored 200 crammed into the same trellis chassis...YIPPPEEEE! hooliganism to the next level. If it weighs anywhere under the 140kg mark it will be a hoot....cant wait

**princesirohi** · 10-05-2012, 09:28 PM

as per my guess, KTM will be on trellis type frame, similar to 200, naked styling, superb power to weight ratio.

whereas pulsar 375 will be atleast a semi-faired version with lesser power to weight ration, better fuel consumption, probably well spaced out gearing ratios giving it good mile munching capabilities, and most probably it will be a pressed steel perimeter frame with some goodies thrown in like projector head lamps etc.

**chinmayakar** · 10-05-2012, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by AntiqueBlue View Post

A friend with good inside connection said a target of 47bhp is set for 375 duke engine, so we can expect similar power. and in his words "wait for it, Pulsar 375 is going to make you drool"...

I dont think it will be any more than 37-40 bhp.

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