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  • Originally posted by mansuryayas View Post
    If the Duke is a single I am very sure that the Pulsar will be a single as well, from one of Rahul Bajaj's interviews where he stated both bikes will have a similar platform.

    I just hope that the Pulsar comes in more than 1 flavor, ie Faired as well as Naked and even better if also comes as an Avenger, I might be expecting too much here though.

    Mr Bajaj is talking a bout a twin for last 1.5 years. And he hinted that it may not be a parallel twin. If next pulsars motor is a 350 single sourced from Duke, Should we expect a new performance motorcycle brand from Bajaj? the ones with true fairing and track genes? (Asking too much?)
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    • If duke 375cc gets a twin cylinder then it cannot have same chassis of current single cylinder duke....and even if duke 375cc is a single cylinder with engine size remaining more or less same....the weight of 375cc engine will be at least 20-25kg more. This added weight will affect things like the center of gravity and thus Handling will be affected. since Dukes are known for their handling manners i guess they will develop a new chassis....which can probably take higher CC engines. so i think just like duke 125 chassis were capable of taking 200cc engine....the 375 cc duke can have chassis that can take say 500cc engine for future 500cc duke. also there are reports of Honda developing a 400cc Twin cylinder engine to take on Duke375......so i guess KTM will also opt for Twin cylinder.....because single cylinder engine cannot win against Twin cylinder engine in performance.
      Last edited by sachin1111; 10-15-2012, 12:58 AM.

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      • my wish list for bike :

        price it around 2 lac as its made in india.
        40+bhp
        power wheelies in first gear

        now some small expectations:

        145 kg or less
        single cylinder or a v twin ( as I plan to commute as well so would prefer a narrow light weight machine)
        as compared to duke 200, keep suspensions and seat stiffness a bit low. Not too soft mind you but just right considering our road conditions)
        top speed of 180 kmph (is it too much? this is a wish list after all ).
        A touring version with semi fairing and tall gearing with broader tires ( maybe dual purpose with road bias) and soft suspension.

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        • Originally posted by sachin1111 View Post
          If duke 375cc gets a twin cylinder then it cannot have same chassis of current single cylinder duke....and even if duke 375cc is a single cylinder with engine size remaining more or less same....the weight of 375cc engine will be at least 20-25kg more. This added weight will affect things like the center of gravity and thus Handling will be affected. since Dukes are known for their handling manners i guess they will develop a new chassis....which can probably take higher CC engines. so i think just like duke 125 chassis were capable of taking 200cc engine....the 375 cc duke can have chassis that can take say 500cc engine for future 500cc duke. also there are reports of Honda developing a 400cc Twin cylinder engine to take on Duke375......so i guess KTM will also opt for Twin cylinder.....because single cylinder engine cannot win against Twin cylinder engine in performance.
          I think another way:
          Since 690 is a single I think 350 will be a single too. Even if 690 duke is single it produces 71 Hp equivalent to Ninja 650. Yes top end will not be its job, it redlines at 8k But there is very specific characters that no others can replicate thats the fun factor tied with their refined powerful singles. This is why they manages to sell 690s in decent numbers at a higher price than N650 in europe.Do KTM have a character of going after other manufacturers product? And 500 Duke will find it hard to co-exist with 690. KTM have a global product strategy as of now. so 500 for specific markets seems less obvious.

          125 - 200 - 350 - 690 - 990 - 1200 -- That is already a big lineup of dukes

          I believe the twin is for a different bike.
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          • As per KTM annual report, KTM and Bajaj are working on concept twin cylinder engine. So i do not think Bajaj or KTM will launching the twin cylinder engine for the next 2-3 years. The best possibility would be that Duke will come out with 375cc single and this engine will be modified and put into a Pulsar. The strategy should be the same as the one used on Duke 200 and Pulsar 200 NS.

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            • another link speculating single cylinder, 32 Bhp and 1.5 lacs price..

              Confirmed. Bajaj working on Pulsar 375

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              • Originally posted by sauravalwaysurs View Post
                another link speculating single cylinder, 32 Bhp and 1.5 lacs price..

                Confirmed. Bajaj working on Pulsar 375

                I was being very optimistic with my expectation of around 35-37 bhp. Mark my words brothers it will be no more than 37 bhp for P375 I think it wont be a 375 cc . Lets see what the production bike has to offer.

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                • the KTM200 produces more power than pulsar 200 NS, so obviously KTM375 will produce more power than Pulsar375. but the thing is how will that pulsar 375 fare against bikes like Ninja 250, and what will be the price point...
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                  • return of the twin, after RD, very nice...fingers crossed

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                    • anybody has any idea about expected price tag...?? of pulsar 375..
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                      • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
                        anybody has any idea about expected price tag...?? of pulsar 375..
                        yes rajiv bajaj has

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                        • KTM 390 Duke confirmed - to be unveiled next month in Milan!

                          ktm 390 to be unveiled next month in Milan the article also mentions Yamaha and Honda coming up with 400-500 cc bikes.
                          source: Zigwheels
                          KTM 390 Duke details confirmed - to be unveiled next month! Page - 1| ZigWheels.com
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                          • Powered by a 375cc, 45PS motor and weighing only 150kg, the bike will hit dealerships by March 2013

                            The biggest news that hit Indian motorcycling this year was all about the KTM Duke 200 and the Bajaj Pulsar 200NS and while this is indeed a step in the right direction for the industry and enthusiasts, it is but the starting point for much more on the pleasure and leisure motorcycling theme which India has been crying out loud for.

                            The essence of all these things has got to be affordable performance and the KTM -Bajaj Auto duo are well on their way to further this line of thought. Both partners are well advanced with larger versions of their tarmac terrors, all new machines pushing the envelope using completely different approaches while employing the same building blocks. Last year at a KTM dealer conference in the U.S. there was speculation of an all new small sized machine for Europe and the US which was then tentatively badged as a KTM 350. Things have now moved ahead to a possible launch at EICMA, a.k.a. the Milan Motorcycle Show scheduled for mid-November this year.

                            The new motorcycle will in all probability be referred to as the 390 Duke, staying in line withKTM’s policy of naming its models like the 990 and the 690. Powering the 390 Duke will be a 375cc single-cylinder liquid-cooled 4-valve engine and feeding it will be an advanced fuel injection system. The basic framework of the 390 Duke will remain similar to its younger sibling, the 200 Duke, employing the same lightweight trellis frame, the gorgeously crafted lightweight swing-arm as well as the same suspension components provided by noted suspension specialists White Power or WP suspension as it is presently known. For sure there will be a scaled up frame and beefed up suspension components as also a revised wheelbase while everything will be enhanced to make the bike a pleasure to ride machine in keeping with KTM's 'ready to race' DNA.

                            As was also the case with the Pulsar 200NS, one saw the basic engine architecture in theKTM Duke 200 and so should also be the case for the next larger Pulsar which Bajaj Auto officials have oft mentioned without divulging details. The new engine is a large single cylinder liquid-cooled unit with twin overhead cam shafts operating a four valve head. This new unit is expected to deliver, wait for it, 45 genuine Austrian thoroughbreds and while this is top draw there is even more when you factor in the all-up weight of the motorcycle. It is expected that the new Duke 390 will tip the scales at just 150 kilos making for a staggering power-to-weight ratio of 300PS per tonne making it quite simply one of the best lightweight pocket rockets in the world! While other details are sketchy, especially as regards torque and transmission, much of it would be on proven lines and I for one expect a six-speed transmission and supple tuning to make for a very explosive mid-range followed by a near 200km/h capability.

                            The Duke 390 would also be built in India as are the 125 and 200 Dukes, at Bajaj Auto's state-of-the-art Chakan facility and exported the world over. When it would be able to hit markets will only be known after its launch but expect it to hit markets globally in the second quarter of 2013. We are fairly sure that this bike would also be sold in India, just around the Rs 1.8 to Rs 2.0 lakh price point and sporting such a price tag it surely has the wherewithal to move the market dynamics drastically, among all bike makers in the land.

                            Staying with market dynamics, expect more of a shake-up when the same 375cc unit gets the Bajaj Auto triple spark treatment while keeping its four-valve head and a single hoc as against the dohc set-up on the Duke to appear in a larger Pulsar! Also expect this larger proportioned Pulsar to manifest itself in both naked and full faired versions.

                            Source : KTM 390 Duke details confirmed - to be unveiled next month! Page - 1| ZigWheels.com



                            However, there is also the tasty thought on what might be when My mind keeps going back to what Joseph Abraham had answered when I asked him if he could take the triple-spark plug layout to other multi-cylinder units and he had suggested a vee-twin was in the realm of possibility. Just think about a vee-twin sharing the cylinder dimensions of the Pulsar 200NS on a common crankcase and you end up with a 400! In this day and age of downsizing without lowering the performance quotient, this sort of an approach could be just the ticket for KTM and Bajaj to hit the ground running all over the world. Fancy thoughts or fact, only time will tell on the vee-twin concept but the next Duke 390 and the larger Pulsar are closer than one can comprehend. Also Read: KTM 200 Duke gets custom race livery


                            And while we are in the mood to break out some inside info on upcoming motorcycles, we might as well hand you some more dope on the next big thing in Indian two-wheeler market – the 300-400cc class. Joining the bigger KTM 390 Duke will also be some interesting new models in the same segment from other manufacturers, namely Yamaha, Honda and Kawasaki.
                            Last edited by Samarth 619; 10-24-2012, 11:27 PM. Reason: added entire article.
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                            • 45 PS???
                              300 PS per tonne???
                              ** giggles like a 5-year old **
                              ** thud **
                              (and faints)
                              I like 'em Naked

                              Blah Blah Blah!

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                              • Even if it becomes April 2013 or even 40 Austrian thoroughbreds ....

                                I'm friggin IN!

                                **Faints in excitement**
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