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  • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

    Originally posted by senthilanandhpv View Post
    Bajaj can partner with Kawasaki for developing a Twin engine but is Bajaj willing to take that risk. Developing twin engine will cost a lot of money. Considering we have only four desi companies I don't think a pure desi developed twin engine will happen anytime soon.

    Speaking about risk, a lot of companies has dropped their balls altogether in taking risks. RD350 was a huge risk for Yamaha. When it was introduced in 1970 it has parallel twin, disk brake, oil injection, 6 speed gear box etc. Yamaha invested lots of money in RD350 but it was world wide success for 15 years. Every legendary bike or car is a result of risk taking by the company. Pulsar classic, RTR 150, R15 v1, Duke200 are all those success examples.. Nowadays every company wants a minimum guarantee product that keeps them in business..
    Are you saying that bajaj is not willing to take risk. They where the first to introduce self canceling indicator, projector head lamps, led tail lights nd fully digital display. When the 220 was launched, that design have conquered every petrol head.but they didn't kept that design as a special one..all the pulsar range spot the same tail end design and that made the design gets dated soo early..I'm expecting a complete makeover from the 200NS. Don't you guys forget the statement of Rahul bajaj made few months ago..the new pulsar series inherits the technologies the motorcycle world ever witnessed.
    I'm waiting for this motorcycle for more than 5 monts...I sold my 220 juat because of this. And I'm damn surr that this won't be a copy pasted design from the 200NS plus a fairing job.

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    • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

      Actually, I feel that Bajaj is in the best position of all Indian bike manufacturers to design a small twin, say 350/400CC. Why, because they have the funds and are ready to take bold decisions and of course the main thing is there are secondary markets they can cater to apart from India, like for example Nepal, Burma, Bangladesh, Srilanka, etc. Think of a Bajaj -X which is a 400cc twin priced in the range of 1.8L-2.5L with all modern adaptations like ABS, etc. It would definitely capture the aforesaid markets including home.

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        Originally posted by sparky View Post
        Actually, I feel that Bajaj is in the best position of all Indian bike manufacturers to design a small twin, say 350/400CC. Why, because they have the funds and are ready to take bold decisions and of course the main thing is there are secondary markets they can cater to apart from India, like for example Nepal, Burma, Bangladesh, Srilanka, etc. Think of a Bajaj -X which is a 400cc twin priced in the range of 1.8L-2.5L with all modern adaptations like ABS, etc. It would definitely capture the aforesaid markets including home.
        One month ago, when I went to service my Ninja at the pro biking, I enquired about the 375 to a friendly mechanic as they where the first to know about the new motorcycles. Then he told that when he went to bangalore for the 390's training class, Tutor mentioned about a 750cc twin which is in the development stage. And the great news is that it will be launched soon..
        A twin cylinder means more maintinance cost and the bajaj's slogan is Value for Money, so as to provide a VFM low maintenance motorcycle, they should stick with the single cylinder circus. Bajaj is more interested in the number game and recently Honda out run Bajaj in the sales. Guess the people at Bajaj will work on a war basis to complete and launch the 375..if my predictions are correct..we can see 375 within next 60 days

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        • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

          Accepted that bajaj might be in the best position to launch a twin given the development in the recent times. But honestly guys, its not happening now.
          The 375 is without a second thought based on the 390's motor, this is more because of bajaj's business strategy that helps them keep the cost down.
          People would have to accept that they offer the best vfm performance and this is only possible by sharing components throughout their lineup.

          The upcoming bajaj faired pulsar would be based on the 390 motor and the second one would most probably be based on 200ns motor. Don't expect too much, the more people expect the more are they disappointed and then they start complaining.
          Lets remember that even if they launch a 375cc faired pulsar, they would be giving us Indian bikers a class we have never really had access to. In fact it would be a new class altogether. All this when most of the other Indian players are struggling to introduce a decent 250. Bajaj is way ahead in the indian market when it comes to serving us riders.

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          • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

            Originally posted by vishnus View Post
            Are you saying that bajaj is not willing to take risk.....
            I am not pointing any company. If you read my statement you can see i said a lot of companies. I never said Bajaj didn't take risk. I mentioned KTM 200 which we can contribute to Bajaj. I was saying companies in general.

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            • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

              The point here is... that Bajaj being new to this capacity of engine.. it would be a new experience for them.. I guess they would want to wait and watch the results on P375 first and then maybe think about twin cyl. motor or something of that sort.. Apart from Bajaj working and producing in India.. they have gone international as well.. sp. when got tied up KTM and launched 200Ns.. World started to know something called Bajaj exists.. so now the question about high end bikes and twin cyl. bikes.. I am sure Bajaj would have that already in pipeline.. coz.. they are almost done with P375.. anything above this only suits with a twin cyl. motor.. Since they think about future and are good at innovating (or copying).. I am sure that they would have learned something about twin cyl. motors from KTM and would have already started to work on it.. but I think, atleast for next 1.5 years. we are not going to see it in the market.
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              • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                Accepted that bajaj might be in the best position to launch a twin given the development in the recent times. But honestly guys, its not happening now.
                The 375 is without a second thought based on the 390's motor, this is more because of bajaj's business strategy that helps them keep the cost down.
                People would have to accept that they offer the best vfm performance and this is only possible by sharing components throughout their lineup.

                The upcoming bajaj faired pulsar would be based on the 390 motor and the second one would most probably be based on 200ns motor. Don't expect too much, the more people expect the more are they disappointed and then they start complaining.
                Lets remember that even if they launch a 375cc faired pulsar, they would be giving us Indian bikers a class we have never really had access to. In fact it would be a new class altogether. All this when most of the other Indian players are struggling to introduce a decent 250. Bajaj is way ahead in the indian market when it comes to serving us riders.

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                Isnt it because of ktm? I mean the other companies are struggling as they dont have an easy access to higher cc engines but bajaj does..

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                • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                  Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                  Isnt it because of ktm? I mean the other companies are struggling as they dont have an easy access to higher cc engines but bajaj does..

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                  It is and why shouldn't it be bajaj owns almost half of ktm (read owns not a partnership, the small dukes were co-developed). When ktm was a struggling brand bajaj saw the opportunity and bought stakes in it when the others so called biggest Indian firms had the moolah but still they were happy enough with their 20 year bike still being the best seller.
                  Bajaj took the risk and now its paying, moreover more than what ktm did for bajaj, bajaj made ktm the no.1 brand in Europe. From a loss making struggling name to right at where they are.
                  Infact this would have not been possible had bajaj's logistics, material procuring etc were not in place.
                  Ktm smaller duke is a joint development that is why bajaj manufactures them and if we are forgetting this bajaj almost owns half of ktm.
                  All this while still getting a profit out of every ktm motorcycle sold in the world, not just the duke. That is what bajaj has achieved and no other indian brand has till date. This is why it is eons ahead of other indian players.

                  Other brands are all trying to follow what bajaj has already done and dusted. Tvs with bmw and hero with ebr.
                  I would answer more with time.

                  The others could have been in bajaj's position but they juat believed in don't fix whats not broken.
                  I am praising bajaj I know, but when I look back and see how much it has achieved in such small time. All that comes out is Respect.


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                  • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                    Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                    It is and why shouldn't it be bajaj owns almost half of ktm (read owns not a partnership, the small dukes were co-developed). When ktm was a struggling brand bajaj saw the opportunity and bought stakes in it when the others so called biggest Indian firms had the moolah but still they were happy enough with their 20 year bike still being the best seller.
                    Bajaj took the risk and now its paying, moreover more than what ktm did for bajaj, bajaj made ktm the no.1 brand in Europe. From a loss making struggling name to right at where they are.
                    Infact this would have not been possible had bajaj's logistics, material procuring etc were not in place.
                    Ktm smaller duke is a joint development that is why bajaj manufactures them and if we are forgetting this bajaj almost owns half of ktm.
                    All this while still getting a profit out of every ktm motorcycle sold in the world, not just the duke. That is what bajaj has achieved and no other indian brand has till date. This is why it is eons ahead of other indian players.

                    Other brands are all trying to follow what bajaj has already done and dusted. Tvs with bmw and hero with ebr.
                    I would answer more with time.

                    The others could have been in bajaj's position but they juat believed in don't fix whats not broken.
                    I am praising bajaj I know, but when I look back and see how much it has achieved in such small time. All that comes out is Respect.


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                    Thats not my point mate.. but i strongly disagree with your comment Bout other brands struggling to build 250cc bikes.. i am happy for bajaj but this own ktm thing actually is a short cut and thats the reason they are already there.. why a 375cc when they can build a 300cc?? Or a 250cc?? Is it because ktm don't have a bike in that segment??

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                    • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                      Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                      Thats not my point mate.. but i strongly disagree with your comment Bout other brands struggling to build 250cc bikes.. i am happy for bajaj but this own ktm thing actually is a short cut and thats the reason they are already there.. why a 375cc when they can build a 300cc?? Or a 250cc?? Is it because ktm don't have a bike in that segment??

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                      Sir, have you heard of being ahead of others game? In a day when everyone is trying to make a 250 should bajaj do the same? Should we customers be treated to the same 20cc displacement bump everytime or would a graphic change itself make a company innovative enough simply because no other big brand uses that graphic.
                      If ktm thing is a shortcut, well then what would you say about tvs partering with bmw and hero partnering with ebr, getting engines developed by engines engineering, avl austria and god knows who else.
                      And even if they are not developing a 250cc because ktm does not have one its because they co-developed the 375 keeping themselves too in picture. They effin own a lot of stake in ktm.

                      And if you are not aware sharing an engine base and using the exact same engine is a different thing altogether.
                      The bajaj head is sohc, triple spark setup while the ktm uses a dohc, single spark.
                      There is a world of difference between the two.
                      Bajaj can do whatever they want with ktm simply because they have the right to do so. They have achieved this right with a lot of hard work, risks and listening to what the customers have been demanding. All the others till now were sitting with their solid monthly sales number satisfying their ego. I wish such a mindset changes now that bajaj has shown the way to everyone.

                      I have no issues with good bikes from the said manufacturers, in fact quite a few bikes I like come from their stable. I just hate the way they have been taking the indian customers for a ride and are shamelessly continuing to do so.

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                      • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                        Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                        Sir, have you heard of being ahead of others game? In a day when everyone is trying to make a 250 should bajaj do the same? Should we customers be treated to the same 20cc displacement bump everytime or would a graphic change itself make a company innovative enough simply because no other big brand uses that graphic.
                        If ktm thing is a shortcut, well then what would you say about tvs partering with bmw and hero partnering with ebr, getting engines developed by engines engineering, avl austria and god knows who else.
                        And even if they are not developing a 250cc because ktm does not have one its because they co-developed the 375 keeping themselves too in picture. They effin own a lot of stake in ktm.

                        And if you are not aware sharing an engine base and using the exact same engine is a different thing altogether.
                        The bajaj head is sohc, triple spark setup while the ktm uses a dohc, single spark.
                        There is a world of difference between the two.

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                        Wow.. the specs are already out huh?? Thats fantastic.. can you please share all the other engine details??

                        Cheers... am out of discussion as you have no idea what i am trying to say nor will you understand..

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                        • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                          Isnt it because of ktm? I mean the other companies are struggling as they dont have an easy access to higher cc engines but bajaj does..

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                          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                          Thats not my point mate.. but i strongly disagree with your comment Bout other brands struggling to build 250cc bikes.. i am happy for bajaj but this own ktm thing actually is a short cut and thats the reason they are already there.. why a 375cc when they can build a 300cc?? Or a 250cc?? Is it because ktm don't have a bike in that segment??

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                          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                          Wow.. the specs are already out huh?? Thats fantastic.. can you please share all the other engine details??

                          Cheers... am out of discussion as you have no idea what i am trying to say nor will you understand..

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                          Well mate, you kept asking and I kept answering when all I had initially mentioned was the pulsar 375 and how because of it bajaj is ahead of everybody else's game.
                          I still don't understand what else I am suppose to understand from your questions or your replies.

                          I have mentioned it that I don't have anything against any bike just that quite a few brands are not giving the indian customers their due. I don't think this should hurt anyone.

                          Mods, this really went OT here, apologies in advance. Feel free to clean it up.

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                          • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                            Originally posted by Dman View Post
                            oh...not again come on man this is my old work, just go back a little and you will see and yes except without the pulsar 375 writing at the bottom.Any again i am happy to see it being posted in here, pulsar fans fb pages, and even in an indonesian site ... I am gonna post my final fully finished version of my work tonight. and yes this time with rear fender,rear view mirrors etc...and also with slight changes to fairing design also. i hope these pages doesn't get fully filled up with this rendering.
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                              Originally posted by DukeDey View Post
                              Well mate, you kept asking and I kept answering when all I had initially mentioned was the pulsar 375 and how because of it bajaj is ahead of everybody else's game.
                              I still don't understand what else I am suppose to understand from your questions or your replies.

                              I have mentioned it that I don't have anything against any bike just that quite a few brands are not giving the indian customers their due. I don't think this should hurt anyone.

                              Mods, this really went OT here, apologies in advance. Feel free to clean it up.

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                              Ok boss.. i am still waiting for the engine specs that bajaj has provided you..

                              Its not about hurting.. its about not understanding their strategy.. its easy for us to say and speak.. :-) but RnD is not so easy.. what i meant to say was this whereas bajaj has already done it with the help of ktm.. duke 390 rumors were from long time and am pretty sure bajaj has learnt a lot from ktm.. the same opportunity was never with other manufacturers..

                              Same with me. Am not against any manufacturer.. i will be happy to sre an Indian company offering something very good and very excited about the p375.. i just wanted to point out that sentence about other manufacturers still studying about 250cc.. thats all..

                              No war.. sorry for the off topic mods..

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                              • re: Pulsar 350/375 Spy pics: xBhp News

                                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                                Ok boss.. i am still waiting for the engine specs that bajaj has provided you..

                                Its not about hurting.. its about not understanding their strategy.. its easy for us to say and speak.. :-) but RnD is not so easy.. what i meant to say was this whereas bajaj has already done it with the help of ktm.. duke 390 rumors were from long time and am pretty sure bajaj has learnt a lot from ktm.. the same opportunity was never with other manufacturers..

                                Same with me. Am not against any manufacturer.. i will be happy to sre an Indian company offering something very good and very excited about the p375.. i just wanted to point out that sentence about other manufacturers still studying about 250cc.. thats all..

                                No war.. sorry for the off topic mods..

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                                Spec is not yet revealed by bajaj but we are expecting a 375cc mill which outs nothing less than 39bhp. Its fuel management should be done by fuel injector because they've to use a very big carb instead and its not practical. Not sure if they introduce a 4 spark plug DOHC setup. I think im over the limit of speculation.

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