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their from complete different segment.then same goes between unicorn and 220 ..as we all know bajaj built 220 to compete against ZMA and succeeded,if they had built it to compete against RD then this question will be legit

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The Pulsar SS is almost complete according to latest updates. Bajaj is fine tuning the exhaust note. Don't know what it will be called. 350 or 375..

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Where did you get the updates from bro??

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Wow. How can you compare a 2s and a 4s bike? This is the lamest question ever when clearly everyone knows that we are discussing the weight of bikes and not performance. Being a bigger and old tech bike, its is lighter. That's what was meant.

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There are some Xbhpians who are working for Bajaj. But they don't tell it. The identity of my source[s] should be secret or that source[s] will face trouble from Bajaj.

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Okay, very good you have done a whole lot of things that give you the bragging rights, but sir, I for one have done a few things too. But that is not the point here.
You want to talk our achievements, kindly pm me.

You just don't understand that the rd 350 was in its days a very expensive machine which can't be said about the 200ns. And then if you expect weight saving measures, mass centralisation, a very good chassis which handles well, low on maintenance, very good power figures etc and all this for 90k then I would say, sorry mate. You cannot get cashews at the price of peanuts. Even then bajaj is giving you all that it can, but I understand people would never stop complaining.
If you want a bike that is low on weight, well, bajaj manufactures one by the name of duke 200. Fyi, it also offers all the techno wizardry an rd could just dream of. Bajaj has a long way to go but yet it manufactures a few world bikes.

Now kindly don't stretch it, it all started with you quoting how bajaj can't manufacture a well balanced and light chassis.
There are a lot of things to be seen before you introduce a product in the market, when rd 350 was manufactured why wasn't it given a monoshock or say fuel injection or even a disc setup for that matter when yamaha already had the tech, it was to keep the price in check not because it was not able to make one. Likewise pay 1.5lac without complaining and ask bajaj for a 200 ns and then we may argue further.

I guess I have kept my point, don't want to argue so not posting further.

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:facepalm
being a two stroke made it lighter and also I would have been priced above 2lk( don't know the exact price as I was not even born then)so comparing to a 90k bike makes no sense is what I meant.

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Yup.. i understand.. cool mate..

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Bro rd350 has twin cylinders. If you compare a single cylinder 2s and a similar 4s, I agree with you. But rd was a twin cylinder one.
Is there any substantial proof of its weight being less than the 220's? Inspite of having two cylinders?
I pitched in cause I was puzzled when the comparison was made on the basis of tech.

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The rajdoot 350 owner's manual states the bike's dry weight at 143 kilos, as to the 152 kilos of the 220.
The rd has heavier parts like a 10+ kilo crank, really heavy blocks, two carbs, metal mudguards, 180mm drums, heavy kabaya forks and a massive gear box.

It was a basic non-specific comparison which was turned in to a tech and ego battle and what not. Leave it brother..

It is my mistake to bring in the legend in to the discussion. It hurts me to see it defamed.

Yes. Bajaj makes wonderful world class bikes. End of discussion.


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No Doubt Yamaha RD350 is a legend and one of a class.. every part of the bike shouts Yamaha all the way.. the beat of the bike.. yummy.. I just love it Got a chance to ride one back in Chennai thanks to a friend of mine.. Never felt any better than riding on her and riding her

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Woah! Bibhu just pointed few things on weight aspects and you guys have exploded into a 4s and 2s discussion.

It is very wrong to compare a classic and legendary bike RD350 to P220.

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[MENTION=19778]Bibhu[/MENTION] Buddy, aren't you taking things a bit too seriously as if about to shout or cry.
No one is questioning the Rd's status or its performance or anything. You introduced the big daddy and started comparing its weight figure with the 200 ns, that was very immature on your part. If you know bikes so well, which I know you do then you shouldn't have compared them in the first place. Both of them belong to a totally different category and have been designed keeping in my a particular set of audience.
Yesterday you deleted the post that if I think rd does not have the tech of the duke or would perform better given a fi then I should let it be.
Well, sorry if I hurt someone here but rd was not at all about technology and I would still say an fi would make it even better in terms of power or responsiveness.

Finally, I am out of this discussion.

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I feel that Bibhu may have been taken out of context here a bit. He gave an example of a motorcycle (RD350 here) and compared it with 200NS only on the basis of mass. I am not going to comment like an expert whether it is right or wrong, but I feel that the topic took the wrong turn of defending RD350's legendary status which no one questioned!

Anyways, coming to the topic of weight, I think what each of us is trying to discuss is how can Bajaj make a relatively light fully-faired motorcycle which seems to be based on the current NS200 and that they should. I believe it primarily depends on Bajaj's intention on how they want to portray their upcoming motorcycle. For example, take the Ninja 650 for example, it's a full-faired version of ER6 and is probably heavier. Also, even with the underbody exhaust the Ninja 650 still feels top heavy. Now, the Ninja 650 isn't a typical sportbike, it is a wonderful long distance tourer atleast in our country and could even be a good city motorcycle. So if Bajaj is going to do a Ninja 650 with the upcoming full/semi-faired motorcycle (seemingly) based on NS200, then it could very well be a heavier machine without anybody needing to wonder why the weight couldn't be lower. However, since the word "supersport" has been doing the rounds as the one describing the intent of the yet to be launched motorcycle, it is preferable that the weight is lower. Let me again emphasize on the word *preferable*, I am not saying that it *must*. How Bajaj plans to achieve this feat is for them to see after all they have been building Dukes for at least couple of years in the same factory, so they must have learned something from KTM about weight saving without being too expensive.

Also, let's not take the term *supersport* too seriously to avoid any disappointment later on. Especially in our country, we use such terms more for marketing the product rather than describing the actual purpose and intent.