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  • #46
    Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

    Originally posted by kochumvk View Post
    This is not even tourer, these are just 3 engines.
    Yup I know,

    PS: I was speaking about new Karizma bikes, mentioned OT earlier , I really wanted to answer there but the thread was locked, so mentioned here cos we can expect the same amount of people here also, cursing Hero for it's design when they haven't actually seen it in flesh. . .

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    • #47
      Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

      Originally posted by Boom S View Post
      thx @payeng. could you give a ballpark figure for ZMR/ZMA ?


      added later. comparing a 180CC bike with a 223 CC one. logical, objective comparison. nice
      use some of your mind in understanding my post rather than bashing hero and advocating bajaj. I was not comparing their performance figures, i was just trying to explain you the amount of upgrade bajaj has given to its bikes like p220 and p180.
      @moderators: sorry for OT but I guess you should do your job without being biased. just go through this thread again, I am sure you will find lot of other posts which are off topic.
      Last edited by Naveen1985; 10-22-2013, 01:17 PM.
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      • #48
        Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

        Originally posted by The Monk View Post
        Did someone say Impulse with a bigger Engine

        Hero revs up for Impulse comeback
        This is a better news than seeing the upgraded Karizmas. A bigger re-tuned 223 cc motor would be the best for Impulse. Or, they can fit the 223cc mill as is on the bike..
        It'd be a hoot to ride!
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        • #49
          Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

          Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
          This is a better news than seeing the upgraded Karizmas. A bigger re-tuned 223 cc motor would be the best for Impulse. Or, they can fit the 223cc mill as is on the bike..
          It'd be a hoot to ride!
          Cool Idea, will love to have a 250cc offroader in my garage. I pulse deserves a bigger motor.
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          • #50
            Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
            This is a better news than seeing the upgraded Karizmas. A bigger re-tuned 223 cc motor would be the best for Impulse. Or, they can fit the 223cc mill as is on the bike..
            It'd be a hoot to ride!
            Indeed is a wonderful news would love to ride a 225cc Impulse or a 250cc impulse.. i kinda have a feeling they are going to put the 250cc motor under the chassis of Impulse.. how cool would this be?? only off-road machine in India by an Indian brand I would love to get it for a weekend ride to the Deserts
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            • #51
              Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

              Originally posted by kochumvk View Post
              Building 3 new engines in this less time (250 cc or 25 cc) is an outstanding effort. Yes it may have issues. But they have done that job in record setting pace.
              Respectable.

              Though the market is moving towards 300-400 cc its price will also move up (2+L)

              There will be a market for 200-250cc even in 2016 if priced right. No problem there. I mean if priced at some 1.4 / 1.5 L it will sell. CBR 300 will be 2+ I guess.

              This move will help Hero. At this stage its is better for hero not to get into that intense battle field of 300-400cc (CBR300,N300,D390,P375,Mojo,Triumph300)

              And there should be something for people looking for 200-250 cc range.
              well according to me honda has left that 250cc space. which will give advantage to rc200 and upcoming hero 250. I am sure honda will increase cbr's cost by 15000 atleast which will give price advantage to its competitors.
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              • #52
                Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                This is a better news than seeing the upgraded Karizmas. A bigger re-tuned 223 cc motor would be the best for Impulse. Or, they can fit the 223cc mill as is on the bike..
                It'd be a hoot to ride!
                Originally posted by kochumvk View Post
                Cool Idea, will love to have a 250cc offroader in my garage. I pulse deserves a bigger motor.
                Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                Indeed is a wonderful news would love to ride a 225cc Impulse or a 250cc impulse.. i kinda have a feeling they are going to put the 250cc motor under the chassis of Impulse.. how cool would this be?? only off-road machine in India by an Indian brand I would love to get it for a weekend ride to the Deserts
                Impulse with a 200+ engine is a desi dream bike for me . But lets pray and hope that they don't modify the looks of the bike.

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                • #53
                  Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                  Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                  Indeed is a wonderful news would love to ride a 225cc Impulse or a 250cc impulse.. i kinda have a feeling they are going to put the 250cc motor under the chassis of Impulse.. how cool would this be?? only off-road machine in India by an Indian brand I would love to get it for a weekend ride to the Deserts
                  even i feel they will plonk their new 250cc engine on impulse but i guess it more than 20bhp will be over kill kinda thing for impulse as it already feels very light. may be I am wrong here but thats what i feel, I dont think its frame will be able handle speed more than 125kmph...
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                  • #54
                    Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                    Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
                    This is what happens when we ignore to read and understand that we are not keen on.

                    Read the edited part of my previous post again buddy.
                    nothing ignored. honda and hero may have had shared power on HH but hero was free to do things on its own. there's no way honda could stall that.


                    Hero doesn't even have the freedom to do graphical changes. Its logical to think that Honda didn't allow Hero to set-up its own R&D as long as Honda was there in the Board.
                    you do realize you are quoting news about hero honda and extrapolating it to hero ?

                    far from being logical, to claim that honda had 'any' say in what hero did in-house has to be one of the most illogical things I have read in this thread. honda had as much say in hero's internal activities as hero had in honda's.

                    bottomline, hero != hero honda

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                    • #55
                      Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                      Originally posted by Naveen1985 View Post
                      even i feel they will plonk their new 250cc engine on impulse but i guess it more than 20bhp will be over kill kinda thing for impulse as it already feels very light. may be I am wrong here but thats what i feel, I dont think its frame will be able handle speed more than 125kmph...
                      Most bikes in that class are much lighter than a 134 kg impulse. Sometimes as light as 100-105 kg.

                      And I don't think Impulse is expected to hit 125kmph. Its job is something else, it will just eat a 150kmph bike in the right terrain.

                      The way hero postered Impulse on their website is really silly and misleading!
                      Looking at this image Impulse is an Urban road bike!
                      These guys creating marketing material should have some brain to do justice to the well engineered product.
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                      • #56
                        Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                        Originally posted by Boom S View Post
                        nothing ignored. honda and hero may have had shared power on HH but hero was free to do things on its own. there's no way honda could stall that.


                        you do realize you are quoting news about hero honda and extrapolating it to hero ?

                        far from being logical, to claim that honda had 'any' say in what hero did in-house has to be one of the most illogical things I have read in this thread. honda had as much say in hero's internal activities as hero had in honda's.

                        bottomline, hero != hero honda
                        I give up!!

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                        • #57
                          Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                          Originally posted by rreneav1987 View Post
                          Indeed is a wonderful news would love to ride a 225cc Impulse or a 250cc impulse.. i kinda have a feeling they are going to put the 250cc motor under the chassis of Impulse.. how cool would this be?? only off-road machine in India by an Indian brand I would love to get it for a weekend ride to the Deserts
                          and I would love to get it to ride in the backyard of my area where there is plenty of off-road , imagine that . . .

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                          Originally posted by Boom S View Post
                          nothing ignored. honda and hero may have had shared power on HH but hero was free to do things on its own. there's no way honda could stall that.


                          you do realize you are quoting news about hero honda and extrapolating it to hero ?

                          far from being logical, to claim that honda had 'any' say in what hero did in-house has to be one of the most illogical things I have read in this thread. honda had as much say in hero's internal activities as hero had in honda's.

                          bottomline, hero != hero honda
                          OT again, sorry. . . Guess you are the same guy who commented in the Hero launching thread day before yesterday or so, comparing R15 and 200NS handling with that of Karizma's. . . Mann, YOU DEFINITELY DESERVE A MEDAL. . . LoL, let me clear it up, Hero are dusting up and getting back to the game, just a matter of time until they start ruling again. . . Finally, let's just not speak until we see the new Karizmas in flesh and also wait for their upcoming models to decide and to compare. . .

                          PS: No offense, except that I laughed a lot after seeing your comments comparing the two . . .

                          Additional: Next time you compare some bike, at least look at their class and category. . .

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                          • #58
                            Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                            Originally posted by chaosaddict View Post
                            Hopefully with a monoshock - a perfect substitute till I get a litre.
                            I hope for a lot more than that bro but hope, is all it is

                            Originally posted by Divya Sharan View Post
                            ... Hence, I'm keeping silent and waiting for the product.
                            Egjacktly... now only thing remaining is to sit tight and wait, everything else is speculation

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                            • #59
                              Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                              Originally posted by riazmomin View Post
                              I give up!!

                              I hope you understand what a contractual agreement means.
                              much better than you think. as of now there is exactly zero evidence of any such agreement.
                              but please, do keep making up stories.
                              [MENTION=59533]Rakesh Rok[/MENTION], I get it. ZMA/ZMR is the ambassador of the bike world.
                              it lags behind the competition on almost "every single" parameter that counts, including in the tourer segment, where the CBR250 comfortably rules in sales numbers, even though it costs almost twice as much.
                              sure, zma still has a few hardcore fans (so does ishant sharma) but like amby, its (increasingly few) fans would tomtom its 'comfort' and 'space' even when sales tumble down.

                              even I want hero to do good but if this current release is an example of their vision for the future, I don't see much hope.

                              oh and just FYI, when you try to make fun of other's arguments, it only tells people you have facts or logical basis for your views, just emotion.

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                              • #60
                                Re: Hero Moto's 3 New Engines: xBhp News

                                Originally posted by Boom S View Post
                                much better than you think. as of now there is exactly zero evidence of any such agreement.
                                but please, do keep making up stories.
                                @Rakesh Rok, I get it. ZMA/ZMR is the ambassador of the bike world.
                                it lags behind the competition on almost "every single" parameter that counts, including in the tourer segment, where the CBR250 comfortably rules in sales numbers, even though it costs almost twice as much.
                                sure, zma still has a few hardcore fans (so does ishant sharma) but like amby, its (increasingly few) fans would tomtom its 'comfort' and 'space' even when sales tumble down.

                                even I want hero to do good but if this current release is an example of their vision for the future, I don't see much hope.

                                oh and just FYI, when you try to make fun of other's arguments, it only tells people you have facts or logical basis for your views, just emotion.
                                Oh.. since when did CBR250 sales beat the Karizma sales?? do you have a chart?? I am just confused

                                I have test rode the CBR and yes.. it is a good tourer.. but the sitting position didn't suit me as much as the ZMR/karizma did..

                                and I understand your sarcastic comment and know how much you know about bikes when you compared the R15 and the P200NS with the Karizma/ZMR..

                                Anything more than this is going to get this thread locked as it was the case in the other thread..
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