Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

I kinda feel like that! Also there are die hard fans who said in this thread that they will buy even at 3L. Considering single cylinder CBR 250, this one is really awesome!

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Its going to be a ninja and cbr (in the 250cc segment) killer, if rightly priced and with an optional ABS,and a slight thought to the mileage considering the increasing fuel price in the indian market.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

^^ IMO ABS in Yamaha is bit impossible. Even their litre class bikes don't get it.

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Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Yes of course. This one will be really awesome in Indian market considering we have got only 2 single cylinder 250+ cc bikes (both priced at <2.1L INR) and a twin cylinder one (priced astronomically at 4L INR). So if Yamaha keeps the price range within 2.7L to 3L INR it will sell too good.

You spoke the wish of many. All of us want a ABS in R25 even it comes a bit pricey, like CBR250 offered.

Which litre-class bike of Yamaha doesn't have ABS?

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

I don't think Yamaha will price it below 2.5L coz If it would had been possible for such brands then HONDA might had done it long back instead of a CBR 250 Single cylinder at 1.7L.

This is twins so it I think it will go beyond 2.5L close to 2.7-2.8L approx.

But why not an ABS and Projectors ??

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

rest assured, this will sell like hot cakes in india (and indonesia etc as well of course), even if it's priced at slightly above 3L INR...it's a damn yamaha after all, and despite the compromised riding stance (from the point of view of a sportbike) and non R series looks, the main thing which is its performance is going to be a killer going by the spec sheet and what we know about most yamaha bikes in general..yamaha says they wanted to give the people a superbike that they can ride everyday and everything about the bike, from its geometry (rider stance, front-rear weight distribution etc) to its specs, conforms to that goal..toward that goal, the riding stance is perfect.

the torque figure is perhaps a little less for crowded traffic, frequent gear changes may be required as it reportedly used to be the case with R15v1..but that's not much of a real concern for most riders anyway..

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

I don't think that its price will be less...as most of the guys are expecting it to be competitive in Indian Market...Reason behind it that in Indonesia it is priced near to 2.7 lacs INR...and if this bike comes through the CKD route...then our excise duty and import duty will make its price shoot more than 3 lacs.

The only possibility of its price coming down (which won't be a drastic one), is Yamaha India setting up the plant in India. I guess which won't be a feasible idea to setup a all new assembly line for a bike...which sales (250cc) in India is not big as compared to Indonesia. So, in my opinion the R25 will be coming through CKD route.

One more thing to add....beat CBR being single cylinder engine in comparison with the Yams R25....Yamaha won't impact greater over the sales of Honda..as India is price concerned market. Reason being there may be whole difference of 50k INR...provided Yamaha going for a local production of R25. And then people tend compare the value proposition between the products. The customer for this Yam in India, in my opinion I guess won't be that much as we can see for the Honda.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Yamaha had made it clear that they are competing with the baby ninja and so I don't think they'd be bothered about the CBR sales numbers.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Spot on ! It depends on yamaha's business strategy...they want to see r25 as a mass bike replacing cbr250 (expected price below 3L) or they want to see it as a premium bike replacing N250/300 (expected price around 3.2L)...IMO, predicting the bright future for higher displacement bikes in India, they will hit cbr250r more(big volume) along with N250/300 (small volume), so their price will be closer to cbr than N300. Good for us, we will get the best value for money bike under 3L and will see many R25 around us. Hence pricing will be a huge factor here. It's a very exciting time for the bike enthusiasts!!!

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Atleast till 2013, R1 didn't have ABS. Didn't check the 2014 model though.

Yamaha Engineers seem to not favor ABS.

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Here's my take on R25

Before Launch:








After Launch:

+ Bulkier look like a supersport
+ 36 PS @ 12000 rpm (Some famous website writes 120,000 heheh)
+ Looks like a mini daytona from side
+ stylish mirrors (not sure about functionality)
+ r6 type exhaust
+ seat height lower(780mm) than R15 (800mm)
+ better instrument cluster
+ twin (duh)
+ higher handle bars, little better for commuting/touring
+ Easier accessible rear brake fluid cylinder.
- Doesn't look like M1 so much
- stupid looking centrally mounted pilot lamp (atleast from pics)
- higher handle bars (less sporty position)
- 166 kgs (I believe this is dry weight... some website wrote wet weight)
Will add more points.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

I see a lot Honda-esque styling cues : The little upward 'kick' in the side panel of the fairing (just below the headlights), the way the panels are layered and even the way the twin headlapms tilts down remind me of the 2014 VFR 800,but that is just me nitpicking.

All that aside that is one STUNNING ,incredibly well designed motorcycle , you can already see the 3/4 fairing version'Fazer'variation and the attention to detail especially with regards to the frame is beautiful.

This is what the new CBR 250/300 SHOULD have looked like.

That with the specifications I can see why they took their time even though people were complaining that they were late to the 200-300cc party.

As far as the torque figures,even though the general line on that is "more is better', I think lower torque will make it a much more usable/predictable machine within the confines of an increasingly dense urban jungle.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Guys,
one single doubt...

Before that, am very poor with numbers.., so pardon me if my question is wrong...
The displacement figure is coming to around 498 cc with a bore of 60 mm and a stroke of 44.1 mm., right?

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

are talking in terms of : a twin 250cc bike =500cc ?

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Not sure what formula you have used.

Re: Yamaha R25 Launched in Indonesia

Okay.., I directly used the Vol of cylinder formula..
Now cleared.

Btw, R25 stands top on my next upgrade list!