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  • many of us this kind of habit where we tend to compare looks of the bike with another one. well that can be ones perspective how they differentiate a bike. In early days og GS150R, its was thrashed saying that the front fairing looks like pulsar ALSO!!!
    We need to understand that comparing ZMR with R15 is not a wise thing to do if we consider their evolution, R15 is forced R1, where has ZMR has had its own identity, HH may not be good at designing the bike, but their bikes are no-nonsense for sure. Many commented on OUTDATED zma and also it looks, But for me its still the best looking bike only after R15 & CBZ Classic. Any how, I already stated on other thread, looks being subjective...reviewer must never mention their opinion about that. But india is democratic country, we can show our views, but cant try to force our view.

    Most of them are commenting on the looks of fairing, but I havent seen a single person commenting on the functionality of the fairing. It has got vents in front, We can only make it out if they are completely functional for air flow on the the engine if we see the bike in flesh, or people like Ken who has physically seen the bike. Vents in front and vents near the console, they must be having some reason for to be there. Though I dont think HH has done any aerodynamic tests on the fairing, but atleast visor on the front fairing appears to be designed so that air drag can be reduces drastically when compared to other than non-windtunnel tested bikes. We can still make out from the pics, But love to Oldfox's review with practical usage of this bike. R15 gives tough time to P220 only because of the above elements even with its 17powered engine and light weight.

    Mirrors: They appear to be foldable to me atleast from the pic, But do they vibrate at higher speeds, Bunny needs to answer this!!! They look to me edged, so when folded, they must push of the wind over the riders shoulder while coruching, but still let the professionals speak about it. front fairing is little wide, I wish HH might have kept it little less in width.
    Tank appears to be not changed at all. Best part of is that they is not prblem with knee recess for tall riders, me being about 6ft, know the advantage and comfort of having it. So because of this un-changed tank, It appears that the side fairing does not gel into the overall look of the bike. But Again, I would like to know the functionality of it. Come on guys, Except R15, I dint find any bike with bikini fairing gelling into the bike (Read P220 & Adreno). The tough part for HH is how they will price the spares. ZMA pads already begin quite expensive, even the rear discbrake appears to be made by NISSIN as i can make out from the pics. Price of side fairing would play very very improtant role here.

    Engine: There are no doubts that this is going to be excellent engine with PGMFI. The refinement levels must be exciting and smoothness must be pampering. I am usually least botherd about what top speed it gains as I dont like to hear bikes screaming, Its not about how fast we go, its about how long we can sustain with out making engine screaming for mercy, for this I would blindly go for ZMR if considered. Major role would be the OIL COOLER, Would be interested to know how it works, If it works similar to the one on Pulsars, then would like to know what would be the difference between them.

    Torque is what ZMA is knwn about. So i dont want to talk about it. I would not like to see the rpm reading near red, because that hurts me and same with the bike. As read in few reviews, ZMR does not appear to be paper tiger, So lets see how the bike performs under hands of xbhpians.

    Tires, They are tubeless, But are they soft-compound? Any how I am happy to see the read disc which is great advantage for this bike considering its weight of 159kgs. No wonder this bike is not for non-muscular humans, but still I have seen very lean riders handling huge bikes with ease (read Valentino Rossi). I would not keep criterian of going to himalaya's on bike while buying a certain bike. If R15 can handle very well on offroads, mountains and terrains, ZMR must be able to handle lot better under able hands.

    No negaitve comments on console!!! I wonder how many more posts this thread would have if there was analogue one.

    Overall, I would say this was honest job from HH. Its not very very excited, but its not way a bike that to be ignored. I belive this is perfect upgrade from ZMA with all nessecary goodies that will lure a prospective buyer to keep this bike in the list. Pricing, Its less than what i expected. around 1lac on road from maker like HH for the features.

    Dislikes:
    35W headlights

    Waiting for testride!!! I hope HH does not make it as R15 for test rides.
    2007 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
    2008 - Yamaha YZF R15
    2009 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
    2013 - KTM 390 Duke
    2017 - Yamaha FZ25

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    • ^^ Hey buddy! Take a closer look at the front vents. If I'm not mistaken the bike has two horns.

      Personally, since I cant change anything about the power, I'd have to say the only let down is the headlamp wattage.
      Last edited by 46wannabe; 09-22-2009, 07:35 PM.
      10 Commandments:
      1)Thank thy God for being alive.
      2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
      3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
      4)Love thy bike as thy self.
      5)Always wear safety gear.
      6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
      7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
      8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
      9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
      10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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      • The bike looks like an aftermarket mod.

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        • Originally posted by 46wannabe View Post
          ^^ Hey buddy! Take a closer look at the front vents. If I'm not mistaken the bike has two horns.

          Personally, since I cant change anything about the power, I'd have to say the only let down is the headlamp wattage.
          Will have look again, But I dont think they would place horns exactly under the head light section.

          Yep, headlight wattage is let down, But the power alternator must give some open options, As i have seen few ZMAs with higher wattage bulbs doing good without any pblm.

          EDIT:
          Yeah, they are horns.
          Last edited by riazmomin; 09-22-2009, 07:41 PM.
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          2008 - Yamaha YZF R15
          2009 - Hero Honda CBZ Xtreme
          2013 - KTM 390 Duke
          2017 - Yamaha FZ25

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          • It looks good in white. Thanks for the review ken da.

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            • lets see what honda offers us after so many disappointments

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              • Originally posted by xvk View Post
                Well not totally in support of ZMR here, but R15 aint any R1 grinded magic bike either, its a commuter bike in indonesia, with very commuterish ergos. they snapped a fairing to it and changed the seating position with lower clip ons etc..

                all this race derived blah blah is just that "blah blah"


                although its relatively the most modern bike tech wise under 250cc here..


                What were HH thinking? they should have outsourced the design work to some firm like GK dynamics.. they made a bad choice on that..

                What???? Wow...
                May god help you..

                Anyway.. I liked the photos and review by ken..
                I dont understand all the criticism..
                We already knew it looks bit like a modified bike when the spy pictures had come out..
                But the overall package is amazing..
                Got that kind of money? Just go for it..
                Last edited by gaurav_c; 09-22-2009, 07:52 PM.

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                • I see that all u guys are complaining about H/L wattage. Its not HH's fault that its a 35W headlamp unit. According to ARAI rules, the H/L wattage shud not exceed 35W on bikes and 2*55W on cars. Its a rule like the horn's sound not exceeding 72db. If you guys are interested and so dissatisfied about the H/L wattage, am sure a 35W HID should be a direct fit(Assuming ZMR is all DC electricals).
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                  • Originally posted by thunderbird_m6 View Post
                    Not even 1 bhp increase in engine !!!!!
                    Yes, dats Disappointing.

                    Again 100/90 size rear tyre... ATLEAST A 110 would have been acceptable.
                    Ummm, cant you handle ur current ZMA-R?

                    Full fairing seems to be like some chourastey-waala mechanic has moulded this fairing in biscuit-baking oven
                    Parle-G still sells like a hot cake

                    No step-seats...
                    You wanna climb or what? ZMA seat comforts arse like anything man.
                    Originally posted by thunderbird_m6 View Post
                    Forget about test-ride dear, now I will only go once to HH showroom only to see if this fairing is tough enough to with-stand a standing fall if happened accidentially... HH has claimed a top whack of 135kmph but that is of now use bcoz looks are not that much appealing only, what to do with speed.

                    Xpect Mileage to be plus/minus 40 even with FI...
                    Mr.GENIUS plz let the SPECS n TEST RIDE REPORTS come, then judge

                    The road of life twists and turns and no two directions are ever the same. Yet our lessons come from the journey, not the destination.
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                    • ^^Thanks for the Info Aparajith.
                      Oh yeah, most of us do install better bulbs on our ZMAs. Its just that we'd be more satisfied if it was stock. Ayways, we cant change the ARAI rules.

                      EDIT: I'm happy at the return of the Electric Blue shade. Same as on the original CBZ.
                      Pardon my nostalgia.
                      Last edited by 46wannabe; 09-22-2009, 08:01 PM.
                      10 Commandments:
                      1)Thank thy God for being alive.
                      2)Thou shalt respect one's own life and the live's of other road users.
                      3)Thou shalt respect one's own bike.
                      4)Love thy bike as thy self.
                      5)Always wear safety gear.
                      6)Alcohol is a strict NO!
                      7)Thou may lust after thy neighbour's bike specially if its of the R1 kind!
                      8)Thou shalt ride with 'ultra-most' care and caution when on Indian roads.
                      9)Thou shalt never leave the engine running at long traffic halts.
                      10)Thou shalt follow all of the above.

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                      • Aparajit, what about P220 and Avenger, I guess they are also two wheelers.
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                        • Originally posted by kkrk2 View Post
                          OT:
                          I would like to add something here:

                          In one xbhp ride on NH7, in the return ride, my bum was paining a lot for riding my zeus for 150km or so. So I exchanged my bike with a fellow bhpian who has a R15. Despite its small size and my height(6'2'') it relieved the pain from my bum!!! I was quite surprised by it. Infact I felt its lot more comfortable on the R15 than my zeus, which is supposed to be commuter friendly. Well that was on the highway for a hour or so ride, I dont have any idea about the ride comfort for longer duration or city conditions.
                          Buddy R15 has no problem regarding the seating comforts. I rode it for 100km non stop and there was no problem with that at all. at night time the bike's beam seems to be a li'l ineffective but rest is absolutely fine sans the size issue ( Particularly for me). For others it may be perfect but for me it just seems li'l out of proportion still its the best thing to ride currently not because of its out of out of proportionality but its features and efforts that have gone in its design considering the practical aspects.
                          My thoughts...
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                          • Originally posted by ravi@17bhp View Post
                            Aparajit, what about P220 and Avenger, I guess they are also two wheelers.
                            Some follow stringent rules and go EXACTLY by the books while some dont. U must have heard how the R15 horn sounds. THAT is how much a horn in a two-wheeler can have. How much do our bikes have now? Rules are and can be interpreted the way a manufacturer wants to! The rules are here: automotive research development, automotive standards
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                            • Originally posted by vipin_s View Post
                              Sir, If you want to misuse your powers you are welcome, 1000's are watching this forum, enough was said by Sunny/Bunny and Ken to restore sanity to the forum.
                              Despite everything, yes we have to maintain sanity on this site. And that can include infractions and banning. And to maintain that sanity we have to infract or ban members who often disturb that sanity. I have said this enough number of times before. To you and to other members. It is time!
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                              • Originally posted by ken cool View Post
                                Despite everything, yes we have to maintain sanity on this site. And that can include infractions and banning. And to maintain that sanity we have to infract or ban members who often disturb that sanity. I have said this enough number of times before. To you and to other members. It is time!
                                Yes sir, I did appologise to Aryan after that post.

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