Convert AC/DC bike to ALL DC.

[rajaselvam_1987]

i just want to know how to unground the coil

[Abhijeet Bhattacharjee]

AC CDI has a built in RR and its nothing to do with the external RR. It will fire the engine even if u unplug the RR & batt. For TCI either RR or battery is required for starting.

Oops!!! sorry got confused with another set of wires going from RR :-P

ride is 07' Discover 135, has same electricals as UG3 Pulsars (except BCU) & and stator is same as UG3 Pulsars. Currently running an Avenger 180 stator with 55/60W H/L on AC. Battery charging Amps is 1.5A Max.
Want to convert to full DC, for that I need around 80W (~7A) at 2~2.5k RPM.
1. What AWG to be used???
2. Any ussues with overcharging or damage during long daytime rides???
3. Any other useful suggestions???

Sajjt, still waiting for your reply...

[ATHUL4R]

HID for low beam & Hologen for high beam

where to buy it? wats its cost and watts? hs1 or h4?

[rprathin]

hello sajjt, m still confused with some things even after our last consultation.. can u please exactly tell me how many amps is 140 watts?? i've been using hid 35 watt chinese made since a few days and the little 4 amp battery seems to be supporting it in higher rpms but in lower rpms (bumper to bumper traffic) the battery lasts for about 40-45 mins... after i disconnect the ac line for headlight, will the 35 watt power going to power the ac headlight go to the battery charging?? because as the ac lighting line remain idle, the power might get transferred to the battery charging(just my thought)... pls clarify.. thanks in advance..

11.7amphs is 140 watts no the 35watt power for headlight connection does not go to the battery charging...you can also make your connection to full dc by using ape rr & rewinding the coil then the hid would be supported...without draining batt...

[rajaselvam_1987]

where to buy it? wats its cost and watts? hs1 or h4?

I got it on Pudhupet chennai. That is H4 type 35w HID. It cost me Rs.825

[rajaselvam_1987]

Guys please help i want to rewind the coil, In chennai where i can do this job well bcz in Pudhupet there is lot of shops doing this but i want a good electrician

[segagt_0]

11.7amphs is 140 watts no the 35watt power for headlight connection does not go to the battery charging...you can also make your connection to full dc by using ape rr & rewinding the coil then the hid would be supported...without draining batt...

Thanks mate for the reply was a bit confused so asked here.. btw u too running on full dc??? what's ur ride?

[shoeb2015]

The apr rr's gray wire connects to the Ac output of coil and connect the black wire to the negative and yellow wire to the positive terminal of the battery.

Coil==1st graywire=APE RR=BLack wire to negative
Coil==2nd graywire=APE RR=yellow wire to positive

EDIT-Dont forget to bolt the RR to the chasiss for a better mounting and grounding.(Thank You Sajjt for pointing it out)

[rprathin]

Well done Shree, its very comprehensive for all with easy step by step procedures

And thanks for the courtseys too.

Well, for Pulsar DC conversion is almost the same even the ground isolation procedure except with the pulse coil as its connected seperate. In Pulsar, just isolate the coil from the stator core and connect the black wire to the coil only not to the body. DOne.. Next is re routing of wires are explained as simple as every one can follow. Only thing is u need to cut some of the stock wires in Pulsar to do this job.

Nice try Shree. Hats off to u man. Lets make this thread as a dedicated Universal DIY Elcetrical Mods

plz help me sajjt for converting my scooty pep+ to full dc
i had purchased the ape rr but don,t know how to connect to the coil as there r 5 wires which r coming out from coil and two r going to the cdi and remaining 3 in which two r positive and one is negative.. i think one positive is for headlight and another one is for charging battery...
do i need to make some changes to the coil to make two positive wire to single higher power positive wire
sajjt when i opened my stock rr plug and battery terminals then the engine was not starting this means cdi takes current both from battery dc and from ac current coil because two wires r going to cdi from coil and if i will use ape rr then i think that the cdi can again blow when the battery will be full charged as the current will go the cdi unit which will blow the cdi
plzzz sajjt help me to convert it to full dc...

[rprathin]

where sajjt has gone not answering any questions.....
somebody plzzzz help

[rprathin]

Thanks mate for the reply was a bit confused so asked here.. btw u too running on full dc??? what's ur ride?

my ride is 06 yamaha gladiator but not full dc firstly i am trying to get full dc on scooty pep+ then i will go for my bike

[sajjt]

plz help me sajjt for converting my scooty pep+ to full dc
i had purchased the ape rr but don,t know how to connect to the coil as there r 5 wires which r coming out from coil and two r going to the cdi and remaining 3 in which two r positive and one is negative.. i think one positive is for headlight and another one is for charging battery...
do i need to make some changes to the coil to make two positive wire to single higher power positive wire
sajjt when i opened my stock rr plug and battery terminals then the engine was not starting this means cdi takes current both from battery dc and from ac current coil because two wires r going to cdi from coil and if i will use ape rr then i think that the cdi can again blow when the battery will be full charged as the current will go the cdi unit which will blow the cdi
plzzz sajjt help me to convert it to full dc...

Sorry, was bit busy with other schedules

Let me say any good RR wont over charge the battery and there by no harm to any electricals and thats what its meant for.

Ur previous so called RR (u've'nt named it till now and the way u connected it) must be faulty. A faulty RR means there's no RR means over voltage which can damage the whole thing in no time.

I don't know much about Pep, may be its DC ignition like honda breeds which takes the juice from the battery/RR. If the RR is faulty no wonder it will blow the CDI in that case.

Its a rule of thumb that u should not try any out of specs comps with a standard system unless its reliable. Simply putting a bridge rectifier across the lighting coils wont regulate the voltage its just rectifying and feed the stator voltage to the battery and its not a custom RR. RR means regulator rectifier unit, most of the time people will put a bridge rectifier before the stock RR and says that its custom RR which is actually not.

U need to open the stator cover and post a pic, so that we'll get some idea about it. Rewinding a 70CC (IIRC) is overloading the engine.

[sajjt]

Oops!!! sorry got confused with another set of wires going from RR :-P

ride is 07' Discover 135, has same electricals as UG3 Pulsars (except BCU) & and stator is same as UG3 Pulsars. Currently running an Avenger 180 stator with 55/60W H/L on AC. Battery charging Amps is 1.5A Max.
Want to convert to full DC, for that I need around 80W (~7A) at 2~2.5k RPM.
1. What AWG to be used???
2. Any ussues with overcharging or damage during long daytime rides???
3. Any other useful suggestions???

Sajjt, still waiting for your reply...

U can go for 19G on all poles for 8A.

If the RR is good, its a fit and forget thing irrespective of the usage it will monitor the voltage across the batt terminals. Once the battery is full, it will go into the trickle mode AFAIK.

What more u expect

The apr rr's gray wire connects to the Ac output of coil and connect the black wire to the negative and yellow wire to the positive terminal of the battery.

Coil==1st graywire=APE RR=BLack wire to negative
Coil==2nd graywire=APE RR=yellow wire to positive

Precisely Dont forget to bolt the RR to the chasiss for a better mounting and grounding.

[rprathin]

Sorry, was bit busy with other schedules

Let me say any good RR wont over charge the battery and there by no harm to any electricals and thats what its meant for.

Ur previous so called RR (u've'nt named it till now and the way u connected it) must be faulty. A faulty RR means there's no RR means over voltage which can damage the whole thing in no time.

I don't know much about Pep, may be its DC ignition like honda breeds which takes the juice from the battery/RR. If the RR is faulty no wonder it will blow the CDI in that case.

Its a rule of thumb that u should not try any out of specs comps with a standard system unless its reliable. Simply putting a bridge rectifier across the lighting coils wont regulate the voltage its just rectifying and feed the stator voltage to the battery and its not a custom RR. RR means regulator rectifier unit, most of the time people will put a bridge rectifier before the stock RR and says that its custom RR which is actually not.

U need to open the stator cover and post a pic, so that we'll get some idea about it. Rewinding a 70CC (IIRC) is overloading the engine.

now i came to know the earlier was the bridge rectifier which don't stop charging when the battery is fully charged and i think it only converts the input A.C. to output D.C. .....now i will use ape rr which will stop the charging when the battery becomes fully charged, there r five wires which r coming out from coil two of them r going to cdi and left 3 which r red,yellow & black in which 2 r positive(red&yellow) and one is negative(black)..
these r the images of stator coil......
















now tell me sajjt what to do

[thunderider]

dc conversion of head light in 1st gen honda uni(no self start)

hello everyone. i hab a 2005 uicorn n want to convert its headlight to full dc, it doesnt hab a self starter. please help me out on dis