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    Never try 90/100w on 2 wheelers reflector at-least Indian it ll start melting

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    • Originally posted by dcs View Post
      Mates, I installed a 60/55w Phillips XtremePower in my 2007 model Karizma.
      The result so far has been good enough, it costs me around 1,300.00 rs for a pair.


      guess you got looted

      costs Rs.800 a pair @ the philips distributor here in bangalore

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      • projectors for the yzf r15

        hi i wanted to kno if projector lights can be fixed to the r15
        how much will it cost me and whare it is available............................

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        • Query Merged.
          :)

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          • Originally posted by princesirohi View Post
            whr can i get OSRAM Nightbreaker in pune?
            A post by myself from
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            Originally posted by animeher View Post
            Finding Osram silverstar is very tough job. Don't even try at local bikewallas, mostly they will have no idea. I got the number of Pune Osram dealer from their site, called them up, went in their office at Pune camp and bought the bulb. This way, it will be bit cheaper too, as outside garages will surely take some premium over the cost.

            That dealer said all Osram bulbs in Pune are sourced from him. IN fact, he was bit surprised to sell only one bulb! You will surely find such dealer in Mumbai. The cost is around 175.

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            • hi guys,

              my friend wants better lightning on his TVS victor.

              i suggested Osram NB . but now a lil doubt on the wattage supported by the
              victor headlight setup . do any of you guys know the stock victor bulb wattage ?
              its the old victor , kick start.
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              • P200's bulbs

                Guys,

                I would like to install current P200's headlight and pilot bulbs into my ug2 P150.
                Is it possible?
                if so, what's the price?
                Does it provide better lighting at mist and fog?
                Does it improves night visibility?

                Please guide me and put some light on the topic guys

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                • Originally posted by arvindraju View Post
                  called him is the official distri for Philips Bulbs in Bangalore

                  saw many people are looking around for these & the vision series

                  shall we have a Group from xbhp ? so that we can get the pricing down
                  sounds good.

                  Originally posted by avinrichards View Post
                  hi guys,

                  my friend wants better lightning on his TVS victor.

                  i suggested Osram NB . but now a lil doubt on the wattage supported by the
                  victor headlight setup . do any of you guys know the stock victor bulb wattage ?
                  its the old victor , kick start.
                  bump!! anybody?
                  BIKER ...the thrill and sense of self-fulfilment is obtained from living a little dangerously!

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                  • Originally posted by avinrichards View Post
                    hi guys,

                    my friend wants better lightning on his TVS victor.

                    i suggested Osram NB . but now a lil doubt on the wattage supported by the
                    victor headlight setup . do any of you guys know the stock victor bulb wattage ?
                    its the old victor , kick start.
                    The original bulb that TVS used to supply with the Victor was awesome. It was an imported piece and costed Rs 240 when I had to replace it once. But now a days they are selling normal bulbs for Rs 30 or 40.

                    Instead, I got a Mico Halogen bulb at Rs 60 and it is very good. Using it for the past one year. There aren't many options for this pin type. The nightbreakers don't fit in to this. This is old pin type.

                    The wattage is 35/35. I donlt think the Victor can take higher wattage.

                    Originally posted by Nio View Post
                    Guys,

                    I would like to install current P200's headlight and pilot bulbs into my ug2 P150.
                    Is it possible?
                    if so, what's the price?
                    Does it provide better lighting at mist and fog?
                    Does it improves night visibility?

                    Please guide me and put some light on the topic guys
                    The sockets are all the same for P150 & P200. I think even the bulbs are the same - same brand, same rating. The pilot lamps are different - a bit blue-ish for the P200.

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                    • Stock bulb wattage: 35W. 65W bulb won't give full power/may give inferior power even to 35W unless there is some load shedding on bike, like disabling pilot lamp/instrumentation lamps.

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                      • Originally posted by Nio View Post
                        Guys,

                        I would like to install current P200's headlight and pilot bulbs into my ug2 P150.
                        Is it possible?
                        if so, what's the price?
                        Does it provide better lighting at mist and fog?
                        Does it improves night visibility?

                        Please guide me and put some light on the topic guys
                        why are you looking at the p200's headlight . it is also 35w only . if u want better lighting then go for a 55w bulb or if u got the money then a HID

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                        • Osram Night Breaker versus Philips Xtreme Power

                          a couple of weeks to go before the monsoons and we find a lot of people (inc me ) running around for lot of stuffs for their bikes.
                          a good set of lights is one of the important ones in the list.

                          of all the bulbs available, O-NB and P-XP are the most opted, suggested and respected ones. so, request all to share their experiences, pics, specs, mods, setup details etc for NB and XP.

                          an interesting read:
                          PointedThree - Osram Introduces 90% Brighter Halogen Bulbs post #4
                          bad bulbs, it's just Osram kind of got painted into a corner by Philips' minimal use of blue glass in their premium Xtreme Power line, and figured they had to make a bulb that looked significantly different to avoid a "me too" perception, so they cast their lot with larger use of blue glass and revved up the hype machine about "whiter" light.

                          As for the various "plus" claims (+30, +50, +80, +90, etc.) keep in mind how they're devised. The plus-numbers cannot be attained simply through greater luminous flux, because of flux and wattage restrictions contained in bulb regulations prevailing worldwide. The "Plus" bulbs do produce near the maximum allowable flux but that's obviously not the whole story. These bulbs have higher filament luminance and give better beam focus because the filament coilitself is smaller. Headlamp optics are calculated based on a point source. The smaller the filament, the more closely it approximates a point source, and therefore the better the focus of the resultant beam pattern. The better the focus of the beam pattern, the higher the beam peak intensity (that is, the brighter the "hot spot"). Depending on the particular bulb and the specific headlamp optic in use, the gain in hot spot intensity can indeed be up to 50% (80%, 90%, whatever) at some specific but not uniform or predictable point in the beam. In practice, that means once Osram or Philips or whoever have designed their newest bulb, they throw the nearest convenient intern in a room with a bunch of headlamps and have him photometer them until the one that gives the single greatest increase (at anyand then some is stolen by blue filter glass, whether the blue filter is made by Philips or Osram or one of the less-reputable factories.

                          Filament bulbs that have been filtered to produce "whiter" (colder/bluer) light colour, and which comply with DOT or ECE regulations, can be classified in two categories:

                          A) The kind that produces less light than an unfiltered bulb and has rather a shorter lifespan

                          B) The kind that produces almost the same amount of light as an unfiltered bulb and has an extremely short lifespan.

                          There are no "extra white" filtered bulbs that produce identical lumens to an unfiltered bulb and have the same lifespan

                          Glowing filaments produce a great deal of light in the red-orange-yellow-green wavelengths, and only very little light in the blue-violet wavelengths. To put very rough numbers on the matter, suppose that a 9006 bulb produces its nominal 1000 lumens, of which 250 are red, 250 are orange, 250 are yellow, 175 are green, 50 are blue and 25 are
                          violet.


                          Now, suppose you want to add a filter to the glass that makes the light look bluer/colder. How does it do that? Well, there's no such thing as a filter that adds light into the beam passing through it -- filters can only suppress light, not add it. So if we can't add green-blue-violet light, then the only way to get the light to look colder is to suppress green-blue-violet's opposites, which are red-orange-yellow. If we want the light to look, let's say, 20% colder, we suppress red-orange-yellow by 20%. Looking up above, we see that we've got a total of 750 lumens' worth of red, orange and yellow. So, cutting this by 20% leaves 600 lumens, plus essentially all of the bulb's original green-blue-violet output of 250 lumens, so we've now got a bulb that produces light that looks 20% colder and produces 850 lumens.

                          Now, 850 lumens happens to be the minimum legal output for a 9006. Unless we're a completely stinky Chinese company that really doesn't give a rat's patoot about it, we can't produce a bulb that produces only the bare minimum of light, because 50% of production will be 849 lumens or less owing to the realities of mass production. So, we have to put in a high-luminance filament to try to counteract some of the filtering losses. BUT we still have to come in under the max-allowable-wattage spec in DOT or ECE regulations.

                          So, let's say we build our 9006 with a super-duper filament that produces 1200 lumens. That's too much for a 9006, but we're going to take away some of those lumens with our filter-glass. This 1200-lumen filament produces, let's say, 300 lumens red, 300 lumens orange, 300 lumens yellow, 210 lumens green, 60 lumens blue and 30 lumens violet. Now we put that
                          same blue glass over it, which suppresses red-orange-yellow by 20%. Now we've got 720 lumens' worth of red-orange-yellow after filtration, plus 300 lumens' worth of green-blue-violet. That gives us a 910-lumen bulb, which is enough above the 850-lumen legal "floor" that we can mass-produce the bulb and even if some filaments only produce 1150 lumens instead of
                          1200, we're still legally OK. Of course, we still only have 910 lumens instead of 1000, and our 1200-lumen filament is going to have a significantly shorter life than a 1000-lumen filament, but we've got our colder/bluer light appearance in a legal bulb.

                          I bet by now you see why filtering for yellow does not significantly reduce light output: Take our 1000-lumen 9006 as broken down by colour output above. No such thing as a filter that adds extra yellow light, so we have to get our yellow by suppressing blue-violet (the particular yellow that yellow headlamp/foglamp bulbs produce, called "selective
                          yellow", contains all the green found in white light. If we took out some of the green, we'd have a turn signal type of amber-orange light.) OK, then, let's cut blue-violet by 80%. That means we've got our 925 lumens' worth of red-orange-yellow-green, plus 15 lumens' worth of blue-violet (after filtration). Total: 940 lumens. MUCH smaller loss! OK, so we put in a very slightly better filament, say one that produces 1060 lumens, and now we've got 980 lumens' worth of red-orange-yellow-green, plus 16 lumens' worth of blue-violet (after filtration) for a total of 996 lumens, which is for all intents and purposes identical to our original 1000-lumen uncoloured bulb (a parking light bulb puts out between 25 and 50 lumens).

                          Lumen output is less than standard for colourless-glass Long Life bulbs for a different reason: The changes made to the filament to extend its life reduce its surface luminance, decreasing light output and CCT. They also defocus the beam pattern, resulting in shorter seeing distance, because the filament coil is larger. This is exactly opposite what's going on with the +30, +50, +80 type bulbs as described above.
                          BIKER ...the thrill and sense of self-fulfilment is obtained from living a little dangerously!

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                          • Originally posted by HydBiker View Post
                            The original bulb that TVS used to supply with the Victor was awesome. It was an imported piece and costed Rs 240 when I had to replace it once. But now a days they are selling normal bulbs for Rs 30 or 40.

                            Instead, I got a Mico Halogen bulb at Rs 60 and it is very good. Using it for the past one year. There aren't many options for this pin type. The nightbreakers don't fit in to this. This is old pin type.

                            The wattage is 35/35. I donlt think the Victor can take higher wattage
                            sorry if i sound stupid; the same is the case with philips xtreme power also?
                            BIKER ...the thrill and sense of self-fulfilment is obtained from living a little dangerously!

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                            • Originally posted by Nio View Post
                              Please guide me and put some light on the topic guys
                              Put 55W bulbs (philips / Osram /Halonix your choice) with avenger coil. That is the most common pulsar better lighting mod nowadays, and it works like a charm. It will definitely provide better illumination.

                              Originally posted by shadez View Post
                              bump!! anybody?
                              I don't think putting a higher wattage is a good idea. It might drain the battery quicker.


                              I have put HID bulbs on both High and Low beam. It is a Philips Kit (not chinese made, the german ones). Lighting is definitely much much better. Now I can have some fun with High Beam truckers on the highway.
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                              • ^ yeah you sure would.
                                i got the German ones too. after an year and a half now, i got small battery problems.

                                btw... where did you get them from? RedApple needs them too. but i have an outdated knowledge of the market reg lights now. so let us know...
                                BIKER ...the thrill and sense of self-fulfilment is obtained from living a little dangerously!

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