Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[rahuldevnath]

I recently went to a local "modding shop" and saw an HID kit selling for just 2500 + 200 fixing cost. I was like, how could it get so cheap? The box was neatly packed like a cellphone's packaging, came with the ballast and neccessary connectors. The bulb had a single beam, so I questioned the shopkeeper untill he got fed up and said that a dual beam one is out of stock. He mentioned that the kit would be a direct fit on my CBZ classic if I just change the battery to a 7AH one. But I highly doubt that, since the charging rate won't be going anywhere by doing that. Anyone shed some "light" on this please...

Even if you some how manage to solve "Battery Charging" rate, how would a HID be straight fit without modding the bike for DC?

[jayprashanth]

Rahul,

I'm running a 14Amp battery on my Machismo LB500 and the original bulb is 45/40W. Now, my low beam has conked off and I only have the high beam for illumination. Meanwhile, I have a Philips H4 halogen bulb lying around. The rating is 60/55W. I could fit it in the holder but my question is that whether I can use the full illumination capacity of the H4? Or is a rewind required. If so, I'l stick to OE bulbs and get myself HIDs.

Cheers,
Jay

[Grafix]

Guys can u suggest a 35w White light bulb , i dont care about the brightness , i just want white light

[ashwinBK]

Guys, my Apache runs a 12V 35W bulb for the main. The Osram NB H4 is a 12V 60/65W bulb. How can I get this to run on my bike? I read somewhere about re-winding coils, can someone explain that term in detail?

[Saty]

Headlight for RTR Fi

@ Rahul you seem to be the problem solver here kudos to you man!!!

I wanna change the stock bulb and put some white ones can you tell me some good options,it would be appreciable if they would b direct fit!!

[pavanchirmade]

Even if you some how manage to solve "Battery Charging" rate, how would a HID be straight fit without modding the bike for DC?

IMO the CBZ classic is DC by default.
I know ambition 135 is.

[rahuldevnath]

Rahul,

I'm running a 14Amp battery on my Machismo LB500 and the original bulb is 45/40W. Now, my low beam has conked off and I only have the high beam for illumination. Meanwhile, I have a Philips H4 halogen bulb lying around. The rating is 60/55W. I could fit it in the holder but my question is that whether I can use the full illumination capacity of the H4? Or is a rewind required. If so, I'l stick to OE bulbs and get myself HIDs.

Cheers,
Jay

Jay, if your rated stock bulb is 45/40W, you will of course will not be able to get all the 60W. Rewinding is an option, but rather I would suggest, first try getting on LED as far as possible. Like Tail Light, Pilot Lamps. This way you can easily save around 10W. Providing you with at least 55W, which is sufficient to power your 65W.

But if you have an option of fitting an HID, then don't think twice, because even if you manage to fit a 100W bulb you will be disappointed.

Guys can u suggest a 35w White light bulb , i dont care about the brightness , i just want white light

Before you buy a costly "WHITE" bulb, try Halonix 35W Blue bulb, which i think is not more than 70bucks. White light looks good but is even worse than your stock bulb, at 35W. Try it out, if you like it, than try fitting in a 5000Kelvin HID, which will suffice your needs.

[rahuldevnath]

Guys, my Apache runs a 12V 35W bulb for the main. The Osram NB H4 is a 12V 60/65W bulb. How can I get this to run on my bike? I read somewhere about re-winding coils, can someone explain that term in detail?

Ashwin, you can fit in the bulb straight away, but you won't get the output of 65W though. For full brightness you have to RE-Wind your stator coil.

Your bike, on LH has number of coil, which, generates current for Spark Plugs, Battery Charging, Headlight and Electrical. The coil which provides current to headlight has certain number of windings, which provides the required current for 35W headlight. You need put more windings, so that it provides more current to a 65W bulb.

It can be done and fairly reliable if done by a proper person. But I would always recommend putting in a HID rather than going for rewinding.

@ Rahul you seem to be the problem solver here kudos to you man!!!

I wanna change the stock bulb and put some white ones can you tell me some good options,it would be appreciable if they would b direct fit!!

Thanks. Try putting in Halonix 35W white bulbs, and check the results. I believe white light bulbs are waste of money.

IMO the CBZ classic is DC by default.
I know ambition 135 is.

Wow.. that's news to me.. Can anybody confirm CBZ Classic being DC?

[pranay]

Wow.. that's news to me.. Can anybody confirm CBZ Classic being DC?

I can confirm it being AC. ZMA was DC.

[rahuldevnath]

I can confirm it being AC. ZMA was DC.

Yeah till now, the only bike in Pulsar 220 era, was ZMA. That's what was known to me.

Just for information till in India, upto 250CC which all bikes had or have DC?
Here's my list.

(1) Karizma
(2) Pulsar 220
(3) Pulsar 180/150 UG4
(4) XCD 125/135
(5) Comet GT 250

People please add..

[pranay]

Yeah till now, the only bike in Pulsar 220 era, was ZMA. That's what was known to me.

Just for information till in India, upto 250CC which all bikes had or have DC?
Here's my list.

(1) Karizma
(2) Pulsar 220
(3) Pulsar 180/150 UG4
(4) XCD 125/135
(5) Comet GT 250

People please add..

Yamaha R15
FZ-16
FZ-16S
Fazer

[ashwinBK]

Thanks Rahul Bhai! One more question. How do I go about fitting a HID kit? I already have the 9aH battery needed to convert AC to DC, but will the HID put excessive strain on my battery life?

[rahuldevnath]

Thanks Rahul Bhai! One more question. How do I go about fitting a HID kit? I already have the 9aH battery needed to convert AC to DC, but will the HID put excessive strain on my battery life?

For HID related information, I would suggest you to go through the initial pages of this thread. You have to convert to AC to DC. Because your HID will be taking power off directly from the battery, your power going to the original head lamp is wasted. So, if you do say not more than 20% of total riding in Night, than you may not do any more mods. Your battery will discharge faster than it charges, but in day time it will charge.

But to be sure that your battery charges to it's full potential you need to make a Custom Rectifier, which will give additional charge to the battery.

Check out - http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/desi-bik...ic-all-dc.html

[diffuser911]

Even if you some how manage to solve "Battery Charging" rate, how would a HID be straight fit without modding the bike for DC?

That's what made me wonder. I guess that converting a bike to DC would require a little more than a 200-odd bucks, right?

[rahuldevnath]

That's what made me wonder. I guess that converting a bike to DC would require a little more than a 200-odd bucks, right?

There are two ways to do it, (1) Just put a Bridge Rectifier on the current going to HID relay and (2) Put the whole bike electricals on DC.

Both of these solutions should not cost more than 20 bucks, if you do it yourself, but the problem arises for the fact the battery will discharge faster than it charges. So if you night riding is less, you can go for either of the two mods but if your night riding is on the higher side, you will need to make a cutom rectifier so that there's enough charge for the battery.