Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[sajjt]

Don't compare regular reflector's light with Amby's round doom headlight That is more of search light !!

Shree, it makes sense for me, an HID requires a good sealed beam to avoid beam scattering, normal MFRs r just scattering without much precision.For a halogen with low wattages, its the best,but with an HID, beam should be more focussed. I tried my old HID kit on my car which is having a round sealed beam got a better pattern, while when it was on Pulsar reflector, it was making crazy for the oncomers. So in nutshell, if want to fit HID, go for a round reflector, else, it would be a pain for others too.

[Nitin_traveller]

Hmm... maybe thats coz the idling got a little messed up during the mod
hey, will the 100/90 be even dimmer than the 55/60 on my setup?

Also, is there any way to increase the amount of lighting with the 55/60 bulb?

try night breaker.. around 900 for single bulb.. people vouch for that..

My P150 is happy with a Avi coil and philips 100 Rs. bulb..

people generally have wrongly adjusted high beam and are not able to take full use of the light.. have you adjusted the high beam??? do it yourself and get the sweet result..

adjust the high beam to lowest possible point first.. (can do it at home with a screw driver in 30 seconds).. then ride around for some time on high beam.. than again adjust it..

after 3-4 adjustment.. you will find the sweet spot of headlight.. when it illuminated the perfect point at road..

I now love night riding at 100+ .. and thats very easy too..

[kaus07]

try night breaker.. around 900 for single bulb.. people vouch for that..

My P150 is happy with a Avi coil and philips 100 Rs. bulb..

people generally have wrongly adjusted high beam and are not able to take full use of the light.. have you adjusted the high beam??? do it yourself and get the sweet result..

adjust the high beam to lowest possible point first.. (can do it at home with a screw driver in 30 seconds).. then ride around for some time on high beam.. than again adjust it..

after 3-4 adjustment.. you will find the sweet spot of headlight.. when it illuminated the perfect point at road..

I now love night riding at 100+ .. and thats very easy too..

hey it seems you have done the coil change like the avengers's for your p 150.
can you tell me how much does it cost you and any adverse affect till now..what are the changes you have notice after the coil change along with the headlight power?

[abdelazeez]

try night breaker.. around 900 for single bulb.. people vouch for that..

My P150 is happy with a Avi coil and philips 100 Rs. bulb..

people generally have wrongly adjusted high beam and are not able to take full use of the light.. have you adjusted the high beam??? do it yourself and get the sweet result..

adjust the high beam to lowest possible point first.. (can do it at home with a screw driver in 30 seconds).. then ride around for some time on high beam.. than again adjust it..

after 3-4 adjustment.. you will find the sweet spot of headlight.. when it illuminated the perfect point at road..

I now love night riding at 100+ .. and thats very easy too..

Thanks a ton Nitin. I'd read a lot of reviews that said the Philips X-treme Power is better than OSram nightbreaker, and so went in and bought the Philips. Costed 1000/- a pair. Besides, the Nightbreaker wasn't available in any of the many shops I checked out here in Pune.

Hey, a little pointer on how to adjust the headlight beam would be much appreciated. Do I need to open up the entire dome, or would just getting the meter (and the fibre piece that it is attached to,) be enough to reach the adjustment screw?

[abdelazeez]

hey it seems you have done the coil change like the avengers's for your p 150.
can you tell me how much does it cost you and any adverse affect till now..what are the changes you have notice after the coil change along with the headlight power?

Dude, I've done the Avy Coil mod on my P180UG3 very recently. I must tell you that the electrical power has increased quite a lot; I can feel it in the way the indicator buzzers sound now (a little louder and clearer than before). I've also put in a Philips 55/60W bulb into the bike and the lighting is much better than the stock setup.

My personal recommendation: When purchasing a bulb (to use with the Avy coil), try out a simple Philips (/Osram) Rs80-150 bulb and see how it looks in your bike, before you purchase a more expensive bulb. Chances are that the difference in both bulbs won't seem like doing much justice to the difference in prices... but then, sometimes even a little difference in things comes at a higher price.

[Nitin_traveller]

hey it seems you have done the coil change like the avengers's for your p 150.
can you tell me how much does it cost you and any adverse affect till now..what are the changes you have notice after the coil change along with the headlight power?

yup.. 6 months.. no adverse effect..
Avenger 180 coil : 532 Rs.
Philips (premium i think): 100 Rs.
roadside mechanic labour charges Labour: 60 Rs. ... you can yourself also do it.. there is a step by step puicto discription on a team BHP thread.. but recommended to change by mechanic.. I think this thread




One small wire connector (plastic thing) might be non-compatible (round and rectangle problem).. ask mechanic to break that and connect wire..

15 minutes job.. and all done..
coil is dedicated for headlight only so it's impossible to have any effect on anything else.. just I use to run my bike with only angel eyes on and headlight off.. the angel eye got fuse twice.. now either off light OR full headlight.. No issues.. no probs.. ekdum mast..

I hope this helps

Thanks a ton Nitin. I'd read a lot of reviews that said the Philips X-treme Power is better than OSram nightbreaker, and so went in and bought the Philips. Costed 1000/- a pair. Besides, the Nightbreaker wasn't available in any of the many shops I checked out here in Pune.

Hey, a little pointer on how to adjust the headlight beam would be much appreciated. Do I need to open up the entire dome, or would just getting the meter (and the fibre piece that it is attached to,) be enough to reach the adjustment screw?

As I said.. headlight adjustment might give you 40% better light than what you get today..

no need to open anything..
jsut a screw below headlight.. accessible by long screwdriver..

bike on main stand.. Stand near tank on right hand side.. get handel to right hand side to expose the right side of your bike neck.. bend your back a little and try to locate a screw below headlight on right extreeme..

otherwise
- google around.. there was one link with photo..
- goto a mechanic and get it pointed out to you..


I always carry a screw driver now.. and whenever feels like in 20seconds readjust the beam..

ride on..

[abdelazeez]

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As I said.. headlight adjustment might give you 40% better light than what you get today..

no need to open anything..
jsut a screw below headlight.. accessible by long screwdriver..

bike on main stand.. Stand near tank on right hand side.. get handel to right hand side to expose the right side of your bike neck.. bend your back a little and try to locate a screw below headlight on right extreeme..

otherwise
- google around.. there was one link with photo..
- goto a mechanic and get it pointed out to you..


I always carry a screw driver now.. and whenever feels like in 20seconds readjust the beam..

ride on..

Excellent! I'm gonna try this one out today itself.

Yes, I carry a long screwdriver (along with a lotta other 'mechanic' stuff) with me in the bike. Helps a lot at times.

Thanks a ton+a ton for your suggestion. I am indeed having more issues with the high-beam than with the low beam. :-)

[Nitin_traveller]

Excellent! I'm gonna try this one out today itself.

Yes, I carry a long screwdriver (along with a lotta other 'mechanic' stuff) with me in the bike. Helps a lot at times.

Thanks a ton+a ton for your suggestion. I am indeed having more issues with the high-beam than with the low beam. :-)

great buddy.. make sure to start with High Beam pointing at lowest..

For me, If I am riding at above 40, Lower beam become useless(set to tooo low for the speed) and the higher beam works exceptionally for everything from 40 to 110..

and obviosuly try it at night to check the beam movement.. and hence obviously have to locate the screw with a torch

best of luck and let us know the results..

ride on..

[abdelazeez]

great buddy.. make sure to start with High Beam pointing at lowest..

For me, If I am riding at above 40, Lower beam become useless(set to tooo low for the speed) and the higher beam works exceptionally for everything from 40 to 110..

and obviosuly try it at night to check the beam movement.. and hence obviously have to locate the screw with a torch

best of luck and let us know the results..

ride on..

Cool. Hey, wanna shed some more light (pun intended?) on what you mean by the high beam working exceptionally well from 40-110kmph. Will I have to ride on high beam almost 95% of the time (considering I don't ride slower than 50 most of the time)?

[abhijeet080808]

thanks buddy do tell me after doing all this what are the changes expected ?
i mean will it affect in any thing adversely like running down of battery soon etc???

No adverse effects! It will work nicely.

[Nitin_traveller]

Cool. Hey, wanna shed some more light (pun intended?) on what you mean by the high beam working exceptionally well from 40-110kmph. Will I have to ride on high beam almost 95% of the time (considering I don't ride slower than 50 most of the time)?

I meant, its your personal preference..

Once you start adjusting the light.. you will notice..
- Lower beam is wide spread beam and Higher beam is narrowly Concentrated beam.. If you understand what I mean..
- My friend loves spread beam with his 55W bulb on Fz.. so even at 100 (on NH) he rides at low beam.. And I love concentrated beam.. so even at 50, I love high beam.. personal choice..

ps: I know, It might glare oncoming traffic and takes care of that. So only use high beam, when no oncoming traffic.. but I love that more.. thats it..

start adjusting .. you will know your sweet spot

[abdelazeez]

I meant, its your personal preference..

Once you start adjusting the light.. you will notice..
- Lower beam is wide spread beam and Higher beam is narrowly Concentrated beam.. If you understand what I mean..
- My friend loves spread beam with his 55W bulb on Fz.. so even at 100 (on NH) he rides at low beam.. And I love concentrated beam.. so even at 50, I love high beam.. personal choice..

ps: I know, It might glare oncoming traffic and takes care of that. So only use high beam, when no oncoming traffic.. but I love that more.. thats it..

start adjusting .. you will know your sweet spot

Got it! Personally, I too would like to have a concentrated beam of light rather than a spread one coz it'll provide a lot more visibility IMHO. I'll try out what you suggested dude. Thanks again.

Peace.

[drvmtm]

Wow,missed up soooo much.

i was kindabusy last few days but today i got all the time i need.
firsyt i went to exide shop ,checked the battery,it was one cell down,going for a new battery tomorrow.exide rs 1600 ,30 months warrenty.

now i was thinking last few days to modify mt hid,i already removed it from bike then my evil brain came into action,a little DO IT YOURSELF for me today.let me start.

'my hid originally lookked like this.....


now i removed the halogen bulb and the shield from the hid..only the hid is there.
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i went to market and searched for a rx 100 headlight,got it minda oem 240 inr only.
now i removed the seal beam inside it and started searching for dcm toyota seal beams which were h4 type.finally brought it for 100inr autopal make.
these are straight fit to rx 100s dome,voila a h4 mast relativley small light ready!!!
installed my hid into it.made it fit into left crash guard of my bike. the circit needed to be extended by wire as the hid controller is now sitting below my rear seat as with its cut out.

light is awasome,i fell in love with hids just because of the concentrated nature of the light.the best light i hv seen till date.

ruunung the setup with my 55/60 halogen,the hid is set low and also lower in crashguard,not too much glare.....
if this runs i am too happy. will post pics soon. here is the setup.
now some of you will say it will produce glare but in usa there is some special hid convertion sealbeams are avl like this one.........
http://suvlights.com/popup_image.php?pID=301ℑ=0
my uncle brought a pair for his hummer and i saw these first hand.belive me its same as our good old non clear lence sealbeams like one abhijit is using,like i am using,.even i saw the glare from these are same as our ones so chill.

i will post more pics very soon.

[drvmtm]

Somehow my opinion is contradictory to yours.. yes agree that 6000k HID is bit blueish.. I have used Philips Rallyvision 90/100w and Osram Nightbreaker 55/60w and now using HID's 6000k wala.. I felt HID's are much pleasant and for highway riding its the best bcz it can focus to very distant objects and also can give light up the surroundings as well which is helpful when riding on pitch dark road. Abhi has noticed that when he was with Rahul & Me.

1 thing I agree is HID's are waste of money if using only in city limits which also drains battery and harms on coming vehicles too by its glare.

Regarding rectifier, I am running on stock electricals and I can flawlessly run for hours together with HID but with Halogen its not possible as the power consumed by HID is 35w 3ah (approx) but Halogen consumes 55/60w.!!

i agree with you mate now.focus of hid is the key which in my previous case was not at all in my chinese make h4-2 hid,but now with seal beam and only hid i am more then happy.

i thought u r running stock coil+ape rr?am i wrong?now with this yours can run 55/60 bulb in city traffic not a prob wright but there is a prob when you use hid in city ....or am i wrong,please clarify.........

[drvmtm]

My ans are in bold!!!!!!

answer is in query itself. Ur batt is worn out,
yes it is worn out,checked it today,one cell compltly down.
go for a new amron 9ah for 1300/- with 30+30 month warnty.
err.already odered a exide 30 month warreny maintanece free one and the exide dealer is close to me for 1600.then i saw your post
if r able to crank the engine after rewing for some time and the hid is able to starts, its a sure sign of worn out batt.
correct,how fool am i,kya fool hun mein:d.
since u rewounded the coil all 7 poles with 19g,
omg,you still remember,you are the one who helped,kudos to you.
hid is supporting without a healthy batt,
else u would've ended somewhere in darkness.
i like the line 'else u would've ended somewhere in darkness',feels like a horror movie to me.
even i was running with a worn out batt for 3-4 days with hid and its was picking nicely as u said @2k rpm. Dont expect miracles from a normal 4 yr old exide batt.
i think battery was totally supported by the superstrong charging system,otherwise if was on stock it wouldhave died much sooner .
If u go back to halogen too case will be worser than this as a halo will consume more power than a hid.
with halo 55/60 i can feel with rising rpm the lights intensity increses and decreses also:d

hid's in normal reflectors is a waste especiallty shapes other than round, if u've a round reflector things will be somewhat better. I had tried an hid conversion kit with my p, and the glares was making crazy to the on comers and everyone will stare it with irritated. But once i installed the same kit in my car (chevy beat) its got a good round reflector, got better control over the glares, and if beam is too high atleast we can level the beam from inside, which is not possible in bikes and its not poking every on comer and am some what happy with the setup.

man,you are simply awasome,i just felt like that.i must SAY i share a same thinking frequency with you.