Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[sajjt]

Unicorn has a ordinary Philips 35w HS1 bulb. How is different from other bikes

I felt HID's are better than Osram NB in heavy rain as well. Agree visibility of road is not good but atleast the surrounding vehicles and sign boards are clearly visible which is not the case in halogen.

Agree with the brands of Halogens. Flossers are cheap and best. 300rs pair for 100/130w

Shree whats ur HID CT? And if we r not able to see the road properly, then whats the use of being the sign boards and other vehicles? Its all secondary for me, I need to see all pot holes and patches to be avoided rest of the things can be tackled with any other ordinary bulb ofcourse must be above 50W.

My first HID kit was of 6K and poor perfo in rains, and once I drove one of my friends car with a 7K HID, normal weather its really a road show, every one will leave u space once u flash as if some high end lax car is behind them, after seeing us when overtaking, they must be really pissed off. But once the rain started,WTF, we were really on snail pace to avoid any accidents, man u cant see the roads, only the on coming vehicles, if somebody is on road too, difficult to figure out.

[abhijeet080808]

Is it? Then why our Shreeni boy is crying for more?
There's no enough statement in lighting and mileage.

I meant best among 35W bulbs!

Unicorn has a ordinary Philips 35w HS1 bulb. How is different from other bikes

Agree with the brands of Halogens. Flossers are cheap and best. 300rs pair for 100/130w

If you ask me normal OSRAM 100/90 is very good. Have not used flossers though!

[addyrulz01]

help guys

alright guys, i have an apache 150 which is about 4 years old. the headlight beam is pathetic now. i am planning to change the bulb. i dont want to go for HID"S as i dont have the budget at the moment. can you please suggest me a good bulb which gives proper lighting. i heard that philips halogens are good. please provide me the name, model no and what wattage should i go for.

ride safe

addy

[abdelazeez]

Hey people,

I'm planning to do the Avenger Stator Plate (DV111005) mod on my P180 UG3 in a couple of days, so need some advice.

Was wondering if the Osram Nightbreaker 55/60W is the best bet for my bike or I should go in for a Philips Vision Plus or Philips Xtreme Vision instead.

Could someone help me decide please?

Thanks a ton.

[sagarpadaki]

Hey people,

I'm planning to do the Avenger Stator Plate (DV111005) mod on my P180 UG3 in a couple of days, so need some advice.

Was wondering if the Osram Nightbreaker 55/60W is the best bet for my bike or I should go in for a Philips Vision Plus or Philips Xtreme Vision instead.

Could someone help me decide please?

Thanks a ton.

ya go for it.i have the setup on my 180 UG3 and works very good......and Osram night breaker is the best ...better than those phillips

[win32dotex]

HELP: HID Installation on Pulsar 200

Hi guys!

Do you have any guide or manual that could help me installing HID on my Pulsar 200? It would be a great help to me.

Thanks in advance.

[Aryan]

Query Merged.

[M.R.B]

Changing the Bulb my not resolve the issue

alright guys, i have an apache 150 which is about 4 years old. the headlight beam is pathetic now. i am planning to change the bulb. i dont want to go for HID"S as i dont have the budget at the moment. can you please suggest me a good bulb which gives proper lighting. i heard that philips halogens are good. please provide me the name, model no and what wattage should i go for.

ride safe

addy

Simply changing the Bulb my not resolve the issue .

If you have a place where you can get the stator rewinded, get it rewinded for higher power and get a 60/55 or 100/90 headlight. I have got similar mod done on my ’06 Apache (Osram 100/90 Watt) and setup is providing brilliant light.

Another alternative you can consider it upgrading to RTR160 Stator plate (it’s a 8 pole stator rated 100 Watt , where as the stock stator in 150Cc in 7 Pole and rated 90Watt). It’s a retrofit, but ensure that you pick up 160 Carb stator plate . This setup is also know to provide adequate power for 60/55Watt bulb

For 60/55 bulb got Philips Extreme Power H4. That’s one of the best you can pick up in the market. In 35/35 Watt MicoBosch Halogen is decent.

[Shreeni0403]

Shree whats ur HID CT? And if we r not able to see the road properly, then whats the use of being the sign boards and other vehicles? Its all secondary for me, I need to see all pot holes and patches to be avoided rest of the things can be tackled with any other ordinary bulb ofcourse must be above 50W.

My first HID kit was of 6K and poor perfo in rains, and once I drove one of my friends car with a 7K HID, normal weather its really a road show, every one will leave u space once u flash as if some high end lax car is behind them, after seeing us when overtaking, they must be really pissed off. But once the rain started,WTF, we were really on snail pace to avoid any accidents, man u cant see the roads, only the on coming vehicles, if somebody is on road too, difficult to figure out.

Generally my ride will be from Bangalore to Mysore and in that road literally there are NO pot holes So not a problem, but I cant see turnings and Dude, visibility of Sign boards are crystal clear in HID's than Halogens.

[drvmtm]

well, i need some help!!!

hi all,
i already modified my 5 yr new p 180 ug 2 rewinded coil+ape rr unit which was running 55/60 phillips extream power effortlessly.all of the rest electricals are stock.

just by curiosity, i changed my headlight bulb with a chinese make hid 6000k,h4-2 type ,which has a halo+hid setup.
i did a 4 hr highway ride with that hid,no prob.
As my battery which is the same as it came with from factory till date,it cant hold load and dropping voltage while load is huge and according to exide ,its because the battery is too old,.
now after a 4 hr night ride my bike refuses to start by self!!after kicking it starts but no hid.i can also tell the intensity of neutral light is low.now after revving the bike after 2k or more the intensity of all lights increase. hid also starts,but cant crank it self.
i checked the amp its 7-9 amps @5k. but the voltage of my battery is 12 volts on load or less,.
Is my battery gone or my charging system is having a prob?

[drvmtm]

hid s

also i like to add HID S ON REGULAR REFLECTER IS A HUGE LOSS!!ITS TOTALLY USELESS,SPECIALLY A HALO+HID H4-2 IS WORSE,RIGHT SIDE IS MORE CONCENTRATED REST ALL TOO MUCH DIFFUSE.

trust me guys if u use a good quality bulb 55/60 like osram night breaker or even phillips extram power you cant see too much difference.in my case i feel its worse,just blinding and glaring,not much actual light on road itself,worse then 55/60 phillips extream power in term of focusing and actual light on road.
hid s are always best with projecters or dedicated sealbeams,,,,,never ever retrofit,i really am sad.

also i hate the color of 6000k bulb.its too damn blish white which is not at all usefull.......
i will be changing to phillips extream power setup+ sourcing a projecter for the hid i have.

[abhijeet080808]

^^ I would say get the battery checked first. You can also measure the charging voltage/current at around 3k rpm with a charged battery and see.

[Shreeni0403]

also i like to add HID S ON REGULAR REFLECTER IS A HUGE LOSS!!ITS TOTALLY USELESS,SPECIALLY A HALO+HID H4-2 IS WORSE,RIGHT SIDE IS MORE CONCENTRATED REST ALL TOO MUCH DIFFUSE.

trust me guys if u use a good quality bulb 55/60 like osram night breaker or even phillips extram power you cant see too much difference.in my case i feel its worse,just blinding and glaring,not much actual light on road itself,worse then 55/60 phillips extream power in term of focusing and actual light on road.
hid s are always best with projecters or dedicated sealbeams,,,,,never ever retrofit,i really am sad.

also i hate the color of 6000k bulb.its too damn blish white which is not at all usefull.......
i will be changing to phillips extream power setup+ sourcing a projecter for the hid i have.

Somehow my opinion is contradictory to yours.. yes agree that 6000k HID is bit blueish.. I have used Philips Rallyvision 90/100w and Osram Nightbreaker 55/60w and now using HID's 6000k wala.. I felt HID's are much pleasant and for highway riding its the best bcz it can focus to very distant objects and also can give light up the surroundings as well which is helpful when riding on pitch dark road. Abhi has noticed that when he was with Rahul & Me.

1 thing I agree is HID's are waste of money if using only in city limits which also drains battery and harms on coming vehicles too by its glare.

Regarding rectifier, I am running on stock electricals and I can flawlessly run for hours together with HID but with Halogen its not possible as the power consumed by HID is 35w 3ah (approx) but Halogen consumes 55/60w.!!

[sajjt]

hi all,
i already modified my 5 yr new p 180 ug 2 rewinded coil+ape rr unit which was running 55/60 phillips extream power effortlessly.all of the rest electricals are stock.

just by curiosity, i changed my headlight bulb with a chinese make hid 6000k,h4-2 type ,which has a halo+hid setup.
i did a 4 hr highway ride with that hid,no prob.
As my battery which is the same as it came with from factory till date,it cant hold load and dropping voltage while load is huge and according to exide ,its because the battery is too old,.
now after a 4 hr night ride my bike refuses to start by self!!after kicking it starts but no hid.i can also tell the intensity of neutral light is low.now after revving the bike after 2k or more the intensity of all lights increase. hid also starts,but cant crank it self.
i checked the amp its 7-9 amps @5k. but the voltage of my battery is 12 volts on load or less,.
Is my battery gone or my charging system is having a prob?

Answer is in query itself. Ur batt is worn out, go for a new Amron 9AH for 1300/- with 30+30 month warnty. If r able to crank the engine after rewing for some time and the HID is able to starts, its a sure sign of worn out batt. Since u rewounded the coil all 7 poles with 19g, HID is supporting without a healthy batt, else u would've ended somewhere in darkness. Even I was running with a worn out batt for 3-4 days with HID and its was picking nicely as u said @2K rpm. Dont expect miracles from a normal 4 yr old Exide batt. If u go back to halogen too case will be worser than this as a Halo will consume more power than a HID.

HID's in normal reflectors is a waste especiallty shapes other than round, if u've a round reflector things will be somewhat better. I had tried an HID conversion kit with my P, and the glares was making crazy to the on comers and everyone will stare it with irritated. But once I installed the same kit in my car (Chevy Beat) its got a good round reflector, got better control over the glares, and if beam is too high atleast we can level the beam from inside, which is not possible in bikes and its not poking every on comer and am some what happy with the setup.

[basumataryraj]

Need help

Hi guys, I am a novice in regards to electrics. Therefore dont mind my stupid queries. I have a suzuki gs which has 35watts headlamp. I wanted to try night breaker on my bike to see if the brightness improves. However, I was told that the generator does not produce enough wattage to light the 60watt bulb to its full capacity. In that case I would need to get the coil rewinded so it can produce more wattage. I am not sure if this is correct. The issue is that my place does not have a shop where i can get the job done. There more chances that they will do harm to the bike's wiring and all. I think avenger's stator plate generates 60watts. So can it be fitted on my suzuki gs or it can only be fitted on a bajaj bike. If it can be fitted what other parts needs to be changed as well. In case it cant be fitted, what are my options? Thanks to Abhijeet for your help. I was not able to post a reply, a message "the message is too short" came up when I tried to reply to your message. Raj.