Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[drvmtm]

i am really running so much work this week ,no time ,but as soon as i get time i will take high resolution still pics videos,trust me.

after usin it for 2 nights my comments..........

there is simply no comparision of the light from my set up.
compared with p 220 stocky up/deep-blown away,not even close to my setup!!

compared with stock swift stock setup both lamps working up/deep-still my set up manages to cover better,intensity is more-small term-swift falls a short.

compared with my brand new scorpio m hawk-- i will say equal in terms of spread but intensity is much higher in my setup,whiter too.mustr say scorp m hawk is one of the best stock lights avl today.

there is simpy no use to turn on the main 55/60 head lamp of my bike after i turn the hid on.i have phillips extream power h4 type in my bike and i must say it illuminates like a charm.but hid washes it away.......may be in highway it can be benificial.

imho phillips ext power is better then osram nightbreaker as i used both.osram gives a whiter light whick phycologically gives a feel that it POWERFULL but on real world highway ride phillips is much better.....trust me on this.i hv used both.

also from a regular 55/60 to these bulbs change will not be a looooot ,but just a little!!strange isnt it.dont expect to get boooom of light suddenly after installin phillips or osram.yes u will feel these runs cooler+light spread and intensity is better but not like a 80% increase in real world.

my friend intalled osram night breaker in his p220 low beam type h7 and phillips xtream power on high beam type h7.we didnt spot a hell of a diff.phillips is more on the yellow side but not much.osram is whiter.but frankly speaking it wasnt worth of the money.oem bulbs of p 220 are pretty good and only upgread is hid 4300k.

i will post pics and videos very soon,just give me some time 2 days max.....

[abhijeet080808]

^^ Wow! Waiting for your pics. Pls post it soon! And find a dark road first!

[drvmtm]

@sajjt & drvmtm

Hey, ever thought of removing the Pulsar's reflector from the dome, and plonking in an RX100 dome (with the dcm toyota seal beams) in its place?

IMHO the beam of light from a 55/60W bulb in this kind of setup would beat the Pulsars' OEM setup by a good amount.

What do you guys say? I might give it a try sometime if it seems a viable option.

i f i remember correctly i told you it will look good if we go with twin round headlight setup like triumph speed triple with a low slung look?well the rx ones are smaller in dia then oem pulsys and two of them looks cooooool.

light spread with these with 55/60?well mate try to picture yourself in front of a volvo bus within a 4 feet just =in front in night if u use two hids with coil rewinding............

round domes are always known for there light throwing capabilities,thats why even today the manufacturer s are using round reflecter inside a complex headlight profile.....one word no lloking back if you install this,dosenbt matter if hid or halo 55/60.dosent matter one or 2...its always better then the stock.


also a round headlamp will enhance now extinct pulsars classic look with a belly/gas tank like me

[Omi]

my friend intalled osram night breaker in his p220 low beam type h7 and phillips xtream power on high beam type h7.we didnt spot a hell of a diff.phillips is more on the yellow side but not much.osram is whiter.but frankly speaking it wasnt worth of the money.oem bulbs of p 220 are pretty good and only upgread is hid 4300k.

Thanks for the input
I had almost finalized and was going to order them today,

any idea how much will a 4300K Hid kit will cost(including bulbs)?

[kauria]

Guys, I have a TVS RTR. And I am looking for upgrading my bike's light. As I discussed previously, that my bike does not support full DC lighting system for HID as it has a TCi, if I use a HID or say the normal 35W bulb through DC, the performance of my bike start decrease, as TCi use DC power from battery to feed the Ignition coil for spark. Low battery voltage mean low power to Ignition coil and poor spark & result poor performance.

In that case last week I visit an auto electrician for upgrading the light coil, to at least use a 55/60 bulb. My fate, he refused to do so, clearly told me that It is not possible for RTR, as there is no starting coil in the magneto, and the bike is totally dependent on battery for starting. He also adds, he tried this setup with a RTR, but the result was bad.

Now in that scenario neither I upgrade to a HID nor I rewinding the coil for using a 55w. What should I do? Selling my bike is the last option for me now? Any suggestion..

[drvmtm]

Thanks for the input
I had almost finalized and was going to order them today,

any idea how much will a 4300K Hid kit will cost(including bulbs)?

h7 hid for both high and low beam should cost you around 7k.dont go any other then 4300k,it will be useless,although 6000k can be a little cheap and the market is flooded with this useless colored products.ONLY 4300K HID H7 SLIM BALLAST.
contact our xbhp member navnish,he is from bangalore.he sells really good products in 4300 k range with exceptional quality and with warrenty. get in touch with him.

[abhijeet080808]

Guys, I have a TVS RTR. And I am looking for upgrading my bike's light. As I discussed previously, that my bike does not support full DC lighting system for HID as it has a TCi, if I use a HID or say the normal 35W bulb through DC, the performance of my bike start decrease, as TCi use DC power from battery to feed the Ignition coil for spark. Low battery voltage mean low power to Ignition coil and poor spark & result poor performance.

In that case last week I visit an auto electrician for upgrading the light coil, to at least use a 55/60 bulb. My fate, he refused to do so, clearly told me that It is not possible for RTR, as there is no starting coil in the magneto, and the bike is totally dependent on battery for starting. He also adds, he tried this setup with a RTR, but the result was bad.

Now in that scenario neither I upgrade to a HID nor I rewinding the coil for using a 55w. What should I do? Selling my bike is the last option for me now? Any suggestion..

I have heard about Apache coils being re-winded. It is 100% do-able. The problem is in finding the right guy.

[kauria]

I have heard about Apache coils being re-winded. It is 100% do-able. The problem is in finding the right guy.

Thanks, today receive some real good help from drvmtm, hope I will overcome the problem, till then finger crossed.

[maraque]

Thanks for the input
I had almost finalized and was going to order them today,

any idea how much will a 4300K Hid kit will cost(including bulbs)?

h7 hid for both high and low beam should cost you around 7k.dont go any other then 4300k,it will be useless,although 6000k can be a little cheap and the market is flooded with this useless colored products.ONLY 4300K HID H7 SLIM BALLAST.
contact our xbhp member navnish,he is from bangalore.he sells really good products in 4300 k range with exceptional quality and with warrenty. get in touch with him.

I have a pair of 4300K H7 HIDs populating my high and low beams. Bought them as a pair from Navnish last year for Rs.4.5K 'cause they were cheaper than when bought separately. Dunno whether the price has increased or not.

The light from these HIDs is positively brilliant. The stock setup was already the best on an Indian production bike, but this takes it up a few more levels. Highway riding at night is a breeze with these HIDs. But if you're putting in an HID in the high beam also be warned that the flasher will cease to work (i.e. the HID take quite a bit of time to warm up to its full intensity).

[abhijeet080808]

I have a pair of 4300K H7 HIDs populating my high and low beams. Bought them as a pair from Navnish last year for Rs.4.5K 'cause they were cheaper than when bought separately. Dunno whether the price has increased or not.

The light from these HIDs is positively brilliant. The stock setup was already the best on an Indian production bike, but this takes it up a few more levels. Highway riding at night is a breeze with these HIDs. But if you're putting in an HID in the high beam also be warned that the flasher will cease to work (i.e. the HID take quite a bit of time to warm up to its full intensity).

Dont agree with you though. They are nowhere as good as they could have been. Best is 65W Bullet h/l or Apache h/l. (STOCK only!)

[Puneet1]

4.5 k for an hid pair , very high price . i am getting one pair with super-slim high quality ballast with less than 6a startup for less than 3500 with bulbs and relay n everything .

[maraque]

Dont agree with you though. They are nowhere as good as they could have been. Best is 65W Bullet h/l or Apache h/l. (STOCK only!)

Haven't had the chance to ride a bullet in the night. But my P220 F's headlight seems to be much better my friend's Apache RTR 160 which I have had the pleasure of riding.

But it could be subjective though. Or a matter of personal opinion.

4.5 k for an hid pair , very high price . i am getting one pair with super-slim high quality ballast with less than 6a startup for less than 3500 with bulbs and relay n everything .

Does that include both the ballasts and both the bulbs? My price was for two ballasts and two bulbs, but if your price is also for the same number of components then it seems to be a much better deal.

Can't say I'm complaining though, I'm least bothered about the price, more about the quality of the components and the lighting. So far, its been doing a stellar job. It took a really hard knock when my front fairing got smashed with nothing to show for it, and continues to light my way every night. Definitely better than stock.

And the best part was it needed absolutely no modifications to the electricals, anyone comfortable with their bike's fairing could do it. Took me half the night to install it though. But it was for the better, and well worth the sweat involved.

[abhijeet080808]

Haven't had the chance to ride a bullet in the night. But my P220 F's headlight seems to be much better my friend's Apache RTR 160 which I have had the pleasure of riding.

But it could be subjective though. Or a matter of personal opinion

Oops, somehow forgot about the P220F. Of course that's the best one yet.

[maraque]

Oops, somehow forgot about the P220F. Of course that's the best one yet.

Well, we're all human.

[drvmtm]

@kauria i got the pics that u emailed me. i say its doable.start finding a base for rewinding.also start a new thread or post the pics there so we will be able to find the info inone place,what say?

@guiterfreak.....keep a close watch.....
@maraque....friend abhi is getting confused because the man is a thinker and his own setup will beat the hell out of any p 220.this is a lighter joke,dont take it seriously.

@sajjit boss an apache is having 8 poles,4 for lighting ,4 for charging,your two cents for its rewinding and dc conversion?



also my update...........got a new battery FINALLY.....PICS ARE COMING VERY SOON.