Let there be Light : Bike Lighting, HID etc

[UTKARSH STUNTY SHARMA]

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plzz try to solve the problem by telling me which rr to get

[gautam_k]

Is there any place in Bangalore where I can get my R15 fitted with Bi-Xenon HID projectors (preferably 4300k H4) and angel eyes?
Also, how good are the mxsmotosports. (http://www.mxsmotosport.com/)??

Thanks,
Gowri R.Varadhan

Contact navnish. Many xbhpians have ordered all sorts of HIDs from him and everyone's happy with what they got. And since he lives in bengaluru, you can personally get the work done.
Search this thread. There are some people who have sourced stuff from mxs and were pretty satisfied too.

What is a really good 35W halogen bulb replacement? I have an aquila, oversizing the bulb wattage hurts the battery real fast. 35W is the standard bulb, but its output is awful for night usage. What do you guys suggest?

If its an all DC bike, then nothing better than going for 35W HIDs. Almost all the 35W halogens are more or less the same. Even if you get the best of the lot, you will only get a marginal difference. And the '80-90% extra light' bulbs do not have long lives. Pankajshirke has written a detailed comparo on 55/60W bulbs. Check this post and this post. I couldn't find anything regarding a 35W upgrade anywhere

hi guys i own cbz-x 2011. I have 35W as stock bulb, but as usual i am unsatisfied with it. Can i use 35W HID in place of it?? as my bike is AC/DC it will use my battery only na? if yes will it drain it out?? (35W = ~3A, that should not cause any problem i guess )

helpppppppp

Since the bike has AC/DC electricals, that means, your headlights run on AC. But HIDs need DC. And if you directly connect the HID to DC without doing any modification to the RR and stator, then it will drain the battery. So you need to first convert your bike to DC to be able to run HIDs without any trouble.
Although since your bike is a brand new one, i suggest you dont modify anything too much and end up voiding your warranty. Try something simpler which you can easily undo in 5-10minutes like upgrading to a 55W bulb by saving some watts by removing all lights that run on AC.
But if you don't care about warranty then go ahead with the DC conversion. Refer this thread for more info regarding the conversion.

[anindyameister]

Hi All.

This may be little off topic, but this could give some Ideas for whom are looking for alternative to costly LED fog lamps.

this is a DIY pics are self explanatory...

https://picasaweb.google.com/discove...eat=directlink

Putting LEDs inside regular fog light housing seems a good idea, but the pictures don't tell how to do it. I see some dome LEDs mounted on a heatsink along with a transistor. Can't make anything out, except the idea seems practical and economical. Care to provide some more info on the actual guide ?

[Grishm]

hey guys,
one more stupid question..

i want to know what do we mean by projectors in terms of HID's...
i am going to convert my bike's electricals to full DC... will HID's with projectors provide better lighting during night..? will this be white light (like xenon)
also does angel eyes provide good lighting?

thanks
grishm

[maverhick]

If its an all DC bike, then nothing better than going for 35W HIDs. Almost all the 35W halogens are more or less the same. Even if you get the best of the lot, you will only get a marginal difference. And the '80-90% extra light' bulbs do not have long lives. Pankajshirke has written a detailed comparo on 55/60W bulbs. Check this post and this post. I couldn't find anything regarding a 35W upgrade anywhere

Thanks for the detailed response! How does one know if its an AC/DC system? I am assuming that if you can run the headlight without starting the engine its a DC system. Do correct me if I am wrong. The bike's charging system is pretty weak and can't handle higher wattage bulbs.

Are there any good 35W HIDs you recommend?

[jkhan69]

Pankajshirke has written a detailed comparo on 55/60W bulbs. Check this post and this post. I couldn't find anything regarding a 35W upgrade anywhere

Thanks very much for pointing these posts.

[discoverVinu]

Putting LEDs inside regular fog light housing seems a good idea, but the pictures don't tell how to do it. I see some dome LEDs mounted on a heatsink along with a transistor. Can't make anything out, except the idea seems practical and economical. Care to provide some more info on the actual guide ?

Hi Anindyameister,

refer the attached circuit diagram for the wiring details, I have used 4 1w power LEDs in series.

step1: get a small heatsink after applying heatsink paste to LED back side, glue the LEDs to the heatsink.

Step2:solder the LEDs in series after Gluing all the LEDs make sure the terminals do not contact heatsink.

step3: get a outline of heatsink(LED mounted) and cut-out the reflector in the fog lamp.

step4: using hot glue or araldite fix the heatsink to reflector, and mount the LM317 on another small heatsink in the gap between reflector and foglamp housing, and finally wire everything,voila!!! there you have it LED foglamp.

[apoorvasheth]

China HID kit stopped working.

Hello All,

I recently got a China HIT kit costing Rs. 1850 installed in my Bajaj Discover 125CC DTSi (2005 Model) bike which has an Amron Battery of 9amphere from Asian Enterprises based in Mumbai at Kandivali (w).








Regards,
Apoorva.

[anindyameister]

Hi Anindyameister,

refer the attached circuit diagram for the wiring details, I have used 4 1w power LEDs in series.

step1: get a small heatsink after applying heatsink paste to LED back side, glue the LEDs to the heatsink.

Step2:solder the LEDs in series after Gluing all the LEDs make sure the terminals do not contact heatsink.

step3: get a outline of heatsink(LED mounted) and cut-out the reflector in the fog lamp.

step4: using hot glue or araldite fix the heatsink to reflector, and mount the LM317 on another small heatsink in the gap between reflector and foglamp housing, and finally wire everything,voila!!! there you have it LED foglamp.

Is a voltage regulator necessary for full DC bikes ? and what kind of leds are those ? I assume the heatsink is for the voltage regulator. How much light does 4 1W leds produce ? Is it good for road illumination or would only work as warning light ?

[discoverVinu]

Is a voltage regulator necessary for full DC bikes ? and what kind of leds are those ? I assume the heatsink is for the voltage regulator. How much light does 4 1W leds produce ? Is it good for road illumination or would only work as warning light ?

Hi,

LM317 used here as a series resistor to regulate the current to the LEDs, it is necessary for all types of bikes, this setup will not work for long on AC.
Interms of illumination it is hopeless..but can be used as DRLs.

[itssaurabh.negi]

Since the bike has AC/DC electricals, that means, your headlights run on AC. But HIDs need DC. And if you directly connect the HID to DC without doing any modification to the RR and stator, then it will drain the battery. So you need to first convert your bike to DC to be able to run HIDs without any trouble.
Although since your bike is a brand new one, i suggest you dont modify anything too much and end up voiding your warranty. Try something simpler which you can easily undo in 5-10minutes like upgrading to a 55W bulb by saving some watts by removing all lights that run on AC.
But if you don't care about warranty then go ahead with the DC conversion. Refer this thread for more info regarding the conversion.

But AFAIK 35W = 35/12 = ~3Amps, which is not a big deal as my battery is of 7Ah.Moreover i m not gonna use it for whole day. Max 3-4 Hours.Correct me if i'm wrong.


What if i save 35W from my parking Light and 5W from No. Plate light. I have already done some LED work to my ride.so i guess i can save few more Watts if required.

regards

[Aneesh@4GHz]

which is not a big deal as my battery is of 7Ah.

Guess you have the latest model Cbz and AFAIK it has a 12 V -4 Ah, MF battery.

[Noor]

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[Aneesh@4GHz]

Hello All,

I recently got a China HIT kit costing Rs. 1850 installed in my Bajaj Discover 125CC DTSi (2005 Model) bike which has an Amron Battery of 9amphere from Asian Enterprises based in Mumbai at Kandivali (w).
I got it installed with a projector wherein the HID bulb was pre-fitting inside the projector and there’s a semi-circle light that glows inside this projector. After the mechanic (who does the fitting of HID kits in every bike) completed his work, the HID light worked fine! I rode my bike from Kandivali back home at Andheri and didn’t create any issue. Yesterday, in the morning I rode and just turned on the parking lights and I could still see that pink colour semi-circle light inside the projector glowing. While coming back home in the evening, when I turn on the HID kit, I could initially see this pink semi-circle light on the projector glowing in full strength but the HID light simply refused to work. Later in few mins, I found that this semi-circle pink light also stopped working.

I heard the noise coming out of the ballast when the switch is turned on in upper or dipper which means it is trying to pull electric current from my battery (as this HID kit is directly connected on the bike’s battery whereas, all other lights on my bike I assume is connected on magneto) but the HID light doesn’t fire up nor does that pink semi-circle light on the projector work. After riding my bike for about 25 mins when I came back home, I turned off my bike, turned off the HID kit switch (which is fitted externally) than turned on my bike and then the hid kit switch towards upper mode and the HID light fried up. However, in dipper it still refused to work and that semi-circle ring which glows pink has stopped working completely.

I have absolutely no clue what’s happening out here as this been my 1st experience of using an HIT Kit which turned out to be miserable and I feel that this shop Asian Enterprises based at Kandivali (w), Mumbai have cheated me as the very next day, the HID Kit doesn’t work.

Any help is appreciated….All I need is to get this HID Kit to work again.

Regards,
Apoorva.

This is what happens if we buy local china made HID kits and it is not the fault of the dealer,always buy good quality HID's,You are lucky i think because there are some people complaining about their China HID's burned the entire wiring harness of the bike.

[Aneesh@4GHz]

Hello All,

I recently got a China HIT kit costing Rs. 1850 installed in my Bajaj Discover 125CC DTSi (2005 Model) bike which has an Amron Battery of 9amphere from Asian Enterprises based in Mumbai at Kandivali (w).








Regards,
Apoorva.

This is what happens if we buy local china made HID kits and it is not the fault of the dealer,always buy good quality HID's,You are lucky i think because there are some people complaining about their China HID's burned the entire wiring harness of the bike.