Bench Dyno is a term we use to work out theoretical HP by using this part instead of another part.
In other words its a load of BS, Nothing factual. Not a actual Chasis or roller dyno machine.

I would very much like to the minutes of the conversation. Briefly or in detail.

At present i am using 20w40 motul mineral. But the engine is heating up like the stock bike would do so in summers.

Even the ambient temperature here is a little less considering its winter time. Now i am thinking whether 20w50 would be good?

And your ride's looking good even after so much time of ownership.

Well, there are no exact numbers now with us to show others. But me and shv18 are still searching for someone who would lend us some time
on the Dyno.
Alas! the search hasn't been exactly fruitful till now.

The youtube timing is incorrect always man. Even videos with same time shown end up stopping at different times.
Maybe GoPro is the only source we could trust in these situations.

cheers...

Dyno tests would be useless as far as comparing mods is concerned if the "other part" cannot do the same tests.
This is why it would be interesting to have easy measures done, one needing an accurate enough measurement of a portion of road (Google Earth is amazing for that!), and two friends, each with their mobifone, one at the start and the other one at the arrival, and a chronometer (well: mobifones do that too, and accurately. No need to spend a penny more.
I am ready to do that once my clutch slipping problem will be resolved.

Talking about this clutch slippage with RC "race" clutch springs: I was of course very disappointed by that. Has anyone had the same (slippage with RC springs while there was none with stock ones?).

Well, the easy to do measures seems reasonable enough. Gotta try them soon.

Unfortunately for the time being things just keep getting worse for me. Earlier it was work load and now i am down with Gastroenteritis.

The more i am eagerly trying to getting on my bike for a short trip of 150-200km, the more i am not able to do it.

I really dont know why the biking gods are mad at me. Feels like s**t while i sit at home for another 2-3 weeks.

cheers...

Pick a Sunday and then ride her all the way to Lonavla or else atleast to Big Wheels Motoring Cafe and then back that should cover atleast a good 200 kms more on your newly tuned ride.


Cheers,

I have read in motoman's page that using synthetic oil during run-in or initial period is not good for the bore. He says that it will be difficult for the piston rings to get settled and he recommends not to use synthetic oil for good number of miles.

I intend to do the same. Only the distance covered will be 100km. Coz i live at the lonavla side of Pune.

So its a mere 55km ride from my home.

To each his own. Some like to go the motoman's way. Some go by the book called owner's manual.

At present i am doing it the middle way. Mixing the recommendations of motoman and bike company.

Did the same earlier too. Worked out great. Lets see.

P.S. At present i am not riding the bike as i am admitted in the hospital for the earlier mentioned Gastroenteritis. It got severe.
So i am posting this thru a smartphone of my friend who visits regularly as I dont own one.

@N-o-v-i-c-e: Mate as per the engine oil.. keep a tab on the engine level and top up whenever necessary. Post 1000 kms, shift to Motul FS oil. I would personally suggest 15W 50 and not 20W 50 FS oil as the tolerances are very tight so a thicker oil may result in oil shearing as mentioned by abhimanyu31 before. Although i am no expert in this regard so may be other senior riders can give a perspective on the same....i believe i remember Mik had mentioned somewhere that tighter tolerance=use thinner grade oil.

How's your ride doing now? any chance you have taken a stroll across the mountains at Lonavla?? Do give us a feedback on other factors as mentioned before as such details will help us troubleshoot any niggling problems you may be facing. I believe now the flat spots are more or less gone now. Once, i am back we can probably catch up at Big Wheels Motoring Cafe and check out the respective rides.

Cheers,

Hi guys,

The engine oil level is good for the moment. No change whatsoever. So the initial assembly seems to be good.

So is that right? Thinner oil for tighter tolerances. Mik, buddy is that the correct interpretation by shv18 of your idea? Then i will drain out the current oil sooner.

Unfortunately i didn't ride the bike last 2 weeks coz i was discharged from the hospital yesterday. Liver infection.

One thing i would like to share. After the assembly of the bigbore i had put in Shell 20w40 mineral oil as i could not find Motul mineral at the last moment. Then changed to Motul mineral after 150km.

Now the gears have become harder to shift. Even on the stock bike Motul oils would make my bike's gears hard.
And Shell oils would be smoother. Contrary to popular belief and experience Motul oils haven't shown the kind of magic on my bike ever. Strange, really strange. Any guesses by you people.

Changed the carb 2 weeks back as you know. The bike feels freed from shackles, literally. The low-end torque has improved so much. The 'pick-up' as in layman terms has increased many fold.
It has been such a joy to ride it in city traffic.

There are no flat spots upto 4.5-5krpm. I think beyond that there is something missing. One time i tried to go beyond 5k rpm in 5th gear. But the bike was a little hesitant, though it reached 6k rpm slowly.

I am assuming lean tuning here. So as and when i am able to ride again first thing would be carb tuning.

Shv18. When would you be back. I would definitely very much like to meet an xbhpian and mad-about-bikes-person as me. That is a good feeling in the heart, least to say.

cheers...

^^^^^

If you are experiencing flat spots @5-6k rpm then it must be the jet. Since you have the FFE I don't understand how you could experience flat spots. The very best method is to check the mileage by pouring just 1 litre of petrol. I hope you have already completed 300 kms of your riding on the ODO after the BB kit installation then you need to check the mileage. If your mileage is something above 50 km/l then you are running lean. Anything under 50 km/l wouldn't be lean because Joel's kit are proven for mileage.

If you are not running lean then surely it's the jet which is the culprit.

@ Mik and Luke - What are the jet sizes you guys installed in your carbs? Just wanted to know.

Cheers

I can't remember what size jets my mechanic ended up installing, We were swapping jets around for a few days and I lost track of what sz jets.
I'm also a bit far away to be able to check my bike's carbs (I'm at work in central Queensland Australia and my bike is in Saigon vietnam)

HID for Yamaha FZ-X, RC

Hi All,

as mentioned earlier i have placed an order for an HID for my soon to be Yamaha FZ-X, RC. I had earlier spoken to Navnish, Tourer gear regarding the same however, due to some other work commitments he was unable to correspond to any of my mails. Regardless Noobs, please do keep him in mind if you guys are considering over going for a robust HID kit.

I finally had a chat with Rohit Karmakar from RnD Motovil regarding the same and finalised my deal with him to provide me the following spec:

* Double Angel Eye AES Projector pre-installed in an Yamaha FZ16 light dome

* 35 Watt, 4300 Kelvin Bi-Xenon HID with a robust Ballast

* Pre-installed rectifier unit to provide adequate charge to the ballast

* Matt Black Heat resistant paint on the reflector so as to avoid any glare to the oncoming traffic whatsoever

* 1 Watt White LED Pilot Lamp with Corrilator lens.

Below is a rough sketch of what i have in mind for my HID (Please excuse the horrible photoshop work!) :



I have categorically mentioned to Rohit that i want the lower beam spread to be strong as mostly on the streets and highways in India, we end up using more of lower beam compared to high beam. Secondly, i have stuck with 35 Watt HID Bulb to ensure that the power consumption is within the limits. As compared to dual HIDs for Fazer a single 35 watt HID will consume lesser power and doesn't require any stator coil mods to provide additional charge for charging the battery and powering the HID.

Also i have stuck to the 4300 Kelvin colour temperature as it is close to a yellowish tinge of an typical filament bulb thus one doesnot become blind when riding through rain/monsoon which is a typical problem i have observed with my friends who have opted for HIDs with 5000K and above colour temps.

So now with a new heart, my FZ-X will also have better eyesight too

For those who may want to get in touch with R&D Motovil may connect to him at: http://www.facebook.com/RnDmotovil?fref=ts


Cheers,

So i see you are going a step ahead of me and going all out on the mod scene of FZ...eh.

I had this in mind from the very start but couldn't opt for it, now as you know i barely managed for the bigger carb blunder.

The bike would be a hoot to drive and drool maal to look at now. I suppose we would call it the 'complete' FZ-X, ha.

The 4300K is a smart and safe choice. Higher temperatures are not suitable for a rainy ride as experienced by me. 35W HID would be a tad gentle on you battery. So thats definitely good.

By your description, i am assuming you will be provided a separate new dome with all this stuff pre-installed. Right???

Strictly mu opinion - Either the two angel eyes are looking too much or the cuts on the white eye is not looking that much good. I dont know but something is spoiling the look.

cheers...

Thanks mate but please understand the above image is just a representation of where exactly the HID will sit inside the dome and what it will look like shape wise. This is not an actual image but just a horrible photoshop cut copy and paste on top thing.

The actual colour combination and light spill inside the dome from the angel eyes will be completely different then what you see here. Thats what happens when you do something in a jiffy on a pic .

I was at first very skeptical about the HID thing like i have mentioned earlier. However, the seller Rohit, RnD Motovil assured me that if there is any problem he would gladly accept the HID in return. So for me i understand the pulse of a seller who wants his reputation to be good over everything else just like Bhavishya Devgun from Raw Adventures.in who sold me the Scoyco jacket. He straight away told me that he would give me all the money back if i felt the riding jacket was not upto the mark... almost 3 years and till now not a single seam or a thread has given away.. and trust me i am not so kind towards my gears.

So i am confident and looking forward to the business transaction on the first item purchased from RnD Motovil and if you guys have known me by now.. i will blabber a lot with the ownership report on the same. They sound genuine and so far other boys (from my group who have no connection to world wide web or xbhp) have also said good things about them.

It was rather unfortunate that my deal with Navnish, tourer gear couldnot go through because of his work commitments.. but i know that he is a genuine guy and his kits have been raved since eons on xbhp.

Regardless, yes like you have mentioned after doing a thorough research and taking feedback and also riding some of the bikes with HID mods, i decided to go for the specs mentioned on my earlier post. Going for 5000K and above is absolutely useless. There is no point of going for extremely bright lights which blinds the lorries and vehicles from the opposite side unless you like a big bear hug and an 18 wheeler to come and crash on you .

Plus the major issue being monsoon where white light is just invisible so it is very dangerous to use that on an unlit highway and us all folks in India are well aware that more then 70% of the state and national highways are unlit.. it is not wise to go crazy on the high colour temps.


Cheers,

Thats reassuring. I was worried about your ride after seeing those images and believing the pics to be close to actual products. This is a relief.

HID's are a better option anyday if we are riding in the dark even for sometime of the day. On our roads even night time is not safe at all.
And this i can say with very good(rather bad) experience.

So lets see how your HID fits and works. Will check it out when we can meet half ways in Lonavla. And then maybe i too could opt for it.

cheers...