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  • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

    @ Shv18 ...another informative write up clearing and putting in right perspective ,about Tire Puncture repair, and why to stick with stock size and profile...The Mushroom type patch is more or less like the tube puncture strip with a stem attached to it. Though the patch is much better than the temporary fix ,For a permanent fix Vulcanising punctures is the sure way to go, since the rubber of the tire and the puncture piece are both heated and fused together for a permanent bond..

    Still the Mushroom type patch will work well as long as the cement is applied properly and inner patch is done as shown in the Video...

    Happy to note that the vibes have reduced to a level that you are enjoying the bike more, which is the essence of owning and riding a bike..

    Good luck.

    @ Zeeshan, please visit the ASC and make them do a data log/Check to see what error code the ECM had come up with...Since you say that the problem occurs at a higher RPM, my guess would be Oil pressure dropping ...so check oil filter and quality of oil...I hope ASC/you had been changing oil and not topping it up during oil changes ,along with Oil Filter...
    Good Luck

    @ Fullmoon...Waiting for your updates to learn more ...
    Last edited by psr; 03-06-2017, 11:11 AM.
    When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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    • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

      Originally posted by psr View Post
      @ Fullmoon , sorry for late reply since I was tied up with some work....(I am a married man)...
      Originally posted by fullmoon View Post
      me too a married man.
      Seems only [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION] is left out for now!!

      PS : Lots of great new info [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION] - great work on keeping the thread active and informative.

      PPS : Please don't delete this OT, couldn't resist!

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      • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

        Many Happy Returns of the day [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION] .

        Speaking of returns, Honda is opening a new workshop and has asked you to return all these items you're stocking up. . Have a good one.

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        • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

          Hi @zeeshan300975

          not sure why such an issue has cropped up with your bike. If the SVC has got an ECU diagnostic tool then may be they will be able to pinpoint the issue better. Usually when the engine light comes on it means the ECU has detected some anomaly. My educated guess is to either monitor the engine oil level, correct fuel in the tank and also the state of health of the battery. Without seeing the motorcycle in person it is not easy to narrow the possible reasons behind your beloved motorcycle suddenly acting strange. Hope your understand. Good luck.[/QUOTE]


          Hi [MENTION=32641]shv18[/MENTION], [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION]
          Brothers, I took the bike to the main SVC & the mechanic trained from Honda checked it & told me that the O2 sensor detected some problems & rectified it, but the sensor didn't delete the code generated for it so the mechanic deleted it manually & told me that it's done.
          I planned a ride to Theog & whilst going there nothing happened even at high RPMs...I was happy.
          But on the way back, the Amber light started glowing again. I was approx 120+ that time. I parked the bike on the hard shoulder, had a sutta, fired up the engine & turned the throttle and nothing happened even at 140+. It's driving me nuts.
          I always get the oil changed completely at service (every 3000-4000 km) & never go for top up. I change the oil filter at every alternate service.
          I m taking the bike again for service today & will see if they have ECU diagnostic tools.

          Thank you guys for your inputs

          DOTHRAS CHEK ...!!!
          Last edited by zeeshan300975; 03-10-2017, 09:47 AM.

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          • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

            @ zeeshan300975, why do you quote the entire post including pics and videos to update something on your bike status. Please edit to remove the entire quote, it's very much inconvenient for mobile users.

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            • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

              Originally posted by Iam_Hoodi_CBR View Post
              @ zeeshan300975, why do you quote the entire post including pics and videos to update something on your bike status. Please edit to remove the entire quote, it's very much inconvenient for mobile users.

              Sent from my C1904 using xBhp Connect mobile app
              Done...Thanx for pointing out...!!!

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              • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                NEW PROCUREMENT

                Hi all,

                This is going to be a slight OT so bear with me.

                Post my last ride, i was itching to get hold of good riding pants as it made no sense: investing so much on a good riding jacket and absolutely no protection to the lower body. Though i do use external strap on knee guards, somehow i never felt safe with them. I always wanted to get my hands on touring pants from well known brands like Rukka or Klim. However, their astronomical pricing and no good reliable sellers available in India kinda kept this plan at bay. I have decided to take on the Himalayas by opting for a solo ride to Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh soon so adequate body protection along with thermal protection due to negative temperatures currently prevailing in that region kinda accelerated the plans for the need of a touring pants on urgent basis. As we all know the mighty Himalayas are not to be taken lightly, the roads are not consistent, the weather changes at a moment's notice from hot to cold to sudden rains and snow (at higher altitudes). In a way this was going to be kinda mini Ladakh testing for me (a long cherished dream which keeps on getting postponed due to unexpected and unforseen circumstances).

                Since, my experience with Spartan Pro Gear has been great so far, i decided to place an order for Aspida Odysseus Touring pants from their website (Link: https://www.spartanprogear.com/colle...-touring-pants). I wanted to ensure that i get the right sizing at first go as it is really irritating to do back and forth for replacement of clothing items so i shot a mail to SPG's customer service. I got a response from Mr. Subramanium, SPG who patiently addressed my concerns and recommended the required size for my body dimensions. I had also requested the SPG customer service to kindly expedite the consignment at the earliest since, i would be taking this trip at a sudden notice and would like to do a test run first which would allow me to assess the health of my bike (take care of any changes or replacements that may needed to be done) and also testing and getting used to all the safety gears over an extended period of riding, may be induce break-in for the clothing as well. Once the order was placed, as always SPG was lightning fast in getting the item shipped. I was very much surprised by a call i received from their Chennai office checking on whether i as a customer had received my shipment (when the local courier office kinda bluffed on the delivery date). If this kind of pro-active customer service is maintained i am sure SPG will go a long way. Kudos to @Sunnyside_up! for taking a unique customer/rider centric approach.

                Once, i got hold of the shipment, it didn't take me long to start unpacking the contents.





                Pic 1 & 2: Touring pants arrived in SPG's branded shipment box. The service is very fast and prompt.

                My first impressions of the Odysseus Touring pants are positive. It is cargo styled: so should be comfortable on a long distance riding instead of snug fit which doesn't float my boat at all. The build quality is solid and rugged, has 600D condura fabric which they claim has a high abrasion resistance. Has got an adjustable sling type (reminds of Charlie Chaplin!! ) straps which will hold the pants in place, in the event with stretching and may be weight loss (yeah right!!) the fitting becomes lose. The best thing is this Sling type adjuster is also removable since, it is attached to the jacket with a zip type locker. As the pics below will suggest the touring pants come with reflective stripes which i feel is an extra add-on protection incase of night riding and will make the rider more visible to the traffic and other vehicles.

                It has Knox Flexi-Form armour for knees and dual density foam armour for hip protection although i seriously doubt how much the foam protector would work incase the unthinkable happens. The Odysseus touring pants also come with thermal and rainproof liners though i am certain that incase of a downpour no amount of rain liners (neither in a riding jacket nor touring pant) would be able to keep water out. All it can do is be water resistant which i feel is good enough. So investing on a proper raincoat would be a wise decision for the ride to Arunachal Pradesh.









                Pic: 3, 4, 5 & 6: Aspida Odysseus touring pants from Spartan Pro Gear. Construction and material build quality looks good from initial impressions.

                Ok enough of initial impressions, it was time to put on the riding pants. The fitting was spot on and i liked the baggy kinda fitting on thigh region which i feel will really allow a lot of flexibility for the rider to be comfortable when munching on miles. The Charlie Chaplin sling-straps do make everything fit just right though i am not so sure whether they will be comfortable or irritating, especially during hot or humid weather conditions. Thank god that those are removable. As the pics below will suggest (kindly ignore the legend in Japan print on the T ) there are accordion type stretch, strategically placed which allows further movement for the rider. There is a rubber type material on the rear side which i have been told aides in getting good grip on the seat and not allowing the rider to slide around. The riding pants has got 4 pockets which i believe are more than sufficient to stuff in anything the rider may chose to keep.









                Pic 7, 8, 9 & 10: Touring pants tried on by your's truly! Note the baggy/cargo style fitting on thighs which should allow a lot of comfortable movement to the rider.

                So far everything looks great. However, i do have two major gripes! First one is the knox armour for the knee has been placed slightly lower which is very irritating when walking. I am not sure whether this is may be because of European fitting or for taller riders (as i definitely donot fall into the shorter category: 5ft 11 inches). I believe considering the Asian market and for Asian type body, Spartan should stitch the knee protector holders/place them at least 2 - 3 inches higher which will allow snug fit and right positioning of the knee protectors exactly where it should be. Secondly, if the rider has to go for a pee break then from the looks of it, that is going to be quite a task as the front zipper is covered by a liner and buttons. One can only imagine the problem becoming more complex when the rider is wearing the riding jacket and other protective accessories, bathroom break will have to be planned properly as emergency stops may not be a pleasant experience at all!! I hope @Sunnyside_up! and SPG team will look into this and the future iterations of Aspida Odysseus Touring pants will have these niggles sorted out.




                Pic 11: Aspida Odysseus Touring pants with the front zipper for loo break it is going to be quite a task!! The no. of buttons and clothing material is too much i feel.


                As mentioned earlier, i will be going for a 1000+ kms of journey for some work in the city which will allow me to do test run of my bike and also the respective gears before i take on The Himalayas. Shall report my observations about the touring pants and my CBR in the next post.


                Until then...


                Cheers,
                Last edited by shv18; 03-14-2017, 12:43 PM.
                A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                  Originally posted by shv18 View Post
                  NEW PROCUREMENT

                  Hi all,

                  This is going to be a slight OT so bear with me.

                  Post my last ride, i was itching to get hold of good riding pants as it made no sense: investing so much on a good riding jacket and absolutely no protection to the lower body. Though i do use external strap on knee guards, somehow i never felt safe with them. I always wanted to get my hands on touring pants from well known brands like Rukka or Klim. However, their astronomical pricing and no good reliable sellers available in India kinda kept this plan at bay. I have decided to take on the Himalayas by opting for a solo ride to Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh soon so adequate body protection along with thermal protection due to negative temperatures currently prevailing in that region kinda accelerated the plans for the need of a touring pants on urgent basis. As we all know the mighty Himalayas are not to be taken lightly, the roads are not consistent, the weather changes at a moment's notice from hot to cold to sudden rains and snow (at higher altitudes). In a way this was going to be kinda mini Ladakh testing for me (a long cherished dream which keeps on getting postponed due to unexpected and unforseen circumstances).

                  Since, my experience with Spartan Pro Gear has been great so far, i decided to place an order for Aspida Odysseus Touring pants from their website (Link: https://www.spartanprogear.com/colle...-touring-pants). I wanted to ensure that i get the right sizing at first go as it is really irritating to do back and forth for replacement of clothing items so i shot a mail to SPG's customer service. I got a response from Mr. Subramanium, SPG who patiently addressed my concerns and recommended the required size for my body dimensions. I had also requested the SPG customer service to kindly expedite the consignment at the earliest since, i would be taking this trip at a sudden notice and would like to do a test run first which would allow me to assess the health of my bike (take care of any changes or replacements that may needed to be done) and also testing and getting used to all the safety gears over an extended period of riding, may be induce break-in for the clothing as well. Once the order was placed, as always SPG was lightning fast in getting the item shipped. I was very much surprised by a call i received from their Chennai office checking on whether i as a customer had received my shipment (when the local courier office kinda bluffed on the delivery date). If this kind of pro-active customer service is maintained i am sure SPG will go a long way. Kudos to @Sunnyside_up! for taking a unique customer/rider centric approach.

                  Once, i got hold of the shipment, it didn't take me long to start unpacking the contents.
                  Looks like Spartan has updated the Odysseus. When I'd bought my pair 2 years back, it didn't come with the "Charlie Chaplin" straps or the reflective piping(atleast don't remember noticing this. Probably should check this once I get home). It is quite a comfortable pair of pants for all dry rides and the pockets give you easy access to essential items. Sad to hear that they haven't fixed the placement of the knox armour though. Great choice otherwise.
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                    • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                      Bro, please answer the following questions if you have the time :

                      1. What is the odo reading?

                      2. Which oil and how often you change it?

                      3. How often do you check the oil level in the bike?

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                      • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                        Originally posted by leech View Post
                        Bro, please answer the following questions if you have the time :

                        1. What is the odo reading?

                        2. Which oil and how often you change it?

                        3. How often do you check the oil level in the bike?
                        [MENTION=58594]leech[/MENTION]
                        1) Odo has clocked 22567
                        2) Always use the oil from Honda SVC as the bike is serviced there only between 3000-4000 Kms depending on my rides.
                        3) Oil, coolant, brake fluids, etc. is checked at approx 2000Kms & topped if required.

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                        • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                          Originally posted by zeeshan300975 View Post
                          @leech
                          1) Odo has clocked 22567
                          2) Always use the oil from Honda SVC as the bike is serviced there only between 3000-4000 Kms depending on my rides.
                          3) Oil, coolant, brake fluids, etc. is checked at approx 2000Kms & topped if required.
                          It is strange to hear of a stator coil failure in CBR 250R....Did the ASC mech check for loose contact and RR problem....Was the Coil resistance of all Three Phase windings checked before arriving at this conclusion of coil failure ?...Please ask the ASC mech to check out these before deciding on replacement..
                          Good Luck
                          When Was The Last Time,You Did Something For The First Time.

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                          • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                            Yes [MENTION=32286]psr[/MENTION] bro ... There were no loose contacts & he checked it with multi meter couple of times before they placed the order for a new one.
                            And the best part is that it's covered in warranty...!!!

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                            • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                              RIDE REPORT, INCIDENTS & GENERIC MAINTENANCE (PART 1):

                              Hi All,
                              been meaning to post something on this thread however got caught with day to day activities. Anyways, i had to scrap the plan for Tawang, Arunachal Pradesh again thanks to incessant rains, there were massive landslides and also Tawang experienced heaviest snowfall ever recorded since, the last 10 years. Also my plan incidentally coincided with the visit of his holiness: Dalai lama to the state which resulted in unavailability of any kind of accommodation there. Seems to be the case that i will have to defer this plan till October '17 end.

                              However, i got an opportunity to take my bike to the main city (Guwahati) for another ride and it just so happened that a sudden plan to Shillong was formulated. So without thinking too much just geared up and left for this beautiful state. i believe i don't have to elaborate much as the images below will tell the whole story as to why i never get tired of visiting the state - Meghalaya. Roads are amazing, warm people and the untouched beauty simply takes your breath away. Not to mention the awesome corner carving session one gets to enjoy on butter smooth tarmac. Now with Michelins doing duty on both front and rear, i was on cloud no. 9 as my bike stuck to the road like a leech and just kept on encouraging me to lean more and more till i started scraping the foot pegs. i believe i will have a hard time looking for any other alternative tire once i wear this set out.











                              Pic 1, 2, 3, 4 & 5: The scenic beauty of the beautiful state of Meghalaya. Note the beautiful tarmac - traffic free so corner carving sessions are simply amazing.

                              After a brief stint in Meghalaya and Guwahati, i then pushed on for my return ride to my hometown. My CBR 250R behaved exceptionally well and at certain stretches she was happily hitting triple digits without complaining one bit. When i was about 100 kms away from my destination, i noticed that at slow speeds there was a lot of crunching and metallic noise emanating from the front- left hand side of the bike. I had a brief suspicion that dirt and dust accumulation might have blocked the free movement of the front sprocket hence, the noise. However, since, there was no drop in performance of my bike i decided to continue riding and get it inspected there. I had also consulted a few senior riders and they too asked me to get the drive chain and sprockets inspected.

                              After a few days, i called up my Honda CBR mechanic friend (who had recently quit Honda workshop) and asked him to come home and inspect the state of the drive chain and sprockets. Post the completion of the last ride, this set of drive chain and sprockets had already done around 16,800 kms. Upon further inspection, the mechanic concluded that the chain had elongated to the last adjustment level and the front sprocket had started curling little bit because of which i was getting to hear the metallic noise. Considering the pathetic conditions the drive chain and the sprockets had to go through in their lifetime, i would say 17k kms is really not bad for an OEM set. As per my mechanic if i wanted this set can be easily pushed to 19k+ kms for local runs or may be one or two more 1000 kms ride.

                              However, following the guidelines of the Honda workshop manual which clearly stipulates the adjustment limit at which the chain and sprocket set is to be replaced and also to curb my OCMD : i told my mechanic that under no circumstances any compromises will be done especially when i had an upcoming ride to Bhutan. So a due replacement was in order and i shall make the necessary arrangements for the same.









                              Pic 6, 7, 8 & 9: The state of the chain & sprockets @16,800 kms. Note the front sprocket curling and the chain adjustment level reaching the last bar which as per the workshop manual is when one should opt for replacement of both the drive chain and sprockets together.

                              I already had an OEM set of chain & sprockets lying with me however, i really wanted to try out an X-Ring chain which at least in theory sounded to be far more superior than the standard O-Ring chain supplied by Honda (Check out a post on @abhimanyu31 's thread: http://www.xbhp.com/talkies/general-...ml#post1063087). So an order was quickly placed with Mr. Vikram Verma, Motozone Performance (Mumbai & Pune). As always, the chain and the sprocket set was shipped and arrived quickly at my doorstep within a week's time....



                              Pic 10: X-Ring chain and OEM spec sprockets ordered from Motozone Performance. The gold colour chain was simply a surprise party trick thrown at me by Mr. Vikram.


                              Part 2 of the story in the next post due to unexpected errors..
                              Last edited by shv18; 04-21-2017, 01:48 AM.
                              A quote by a toilet, " use me well, keep me clean, i would never tell anybody whatever i have seen.." :P

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                              • Re: The story so far.. My Honda CBR 250R

                                You would not believe me boss, but my chain has 38,190 kms on it, and it still goes on. My chain's on its last legs too, but I have no extra sounds while riding the bike.

                                Can you share the price of that chain sprocket set if it's all right with Motozone?
                                Last edited by leech; 04-21-2017, 02:31 AM.

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