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  • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

    Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
    Anyway remember, it is not about how fast you go but rather how far you go, so keep the speedo in check whereas let the odo keep climing at a steady phase.
    Indeed indeed. I follow this too. I never power accelerate just to show off or do unnecessary noise, I save the sudden acceleration for when I really need it, and I believe this is the best way one can ride safely as well as feel the power of engine that also will put smile on your face.

    Last time I did 477 kms in 21 hrs that included 4 hours of sleep in between and lots of stoppages to appreciate the awesome nature and jungle. My bike surprisingly got me a little over 57 kmpl of mileage (reserve to reserve observation). Before overgearing (when it was with 15/44 that is of P150 UG3)and with same riding style I pulled 54 kmpl completeing 260 kms.

    With a pillion of 50 kgs ( I am of 65 kgs), the least I got is 43 kmpl in 160 kms of touring, that included 50+ km/h most of the time with 90-100 km/h 10% of time when on absolute empty road.

    I think I am lucky to get this bike at this price and will try the best to keep it that way.

    What I am going to say seems joke to most lol I understand sometimes I think that too but I am seriously thinking to make it run for 1,50,000+ kms, I know what I am asking for, if I don't become a victim of scarcity of necessary parts in future (already have started making a full list of UG4+ parts that may/can be used in UG3 from both bikes' spare parts and catalog manual while comparing each part's part number, since UG3 specific parts have been discontinued, lets see if I can do it or not.). I have done over 5000 kms within 45 days yay.

    P.S. About 15-27 innocents (until proven guilty) have been killed by mob lynching within two months under the suspicion of cow killers or child lifters, until that stops lol I am holding off my touring side of brain for now.

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    • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

      Originally posted by rainydriver View Post
      That is what I checked first. Fortunately there is no kind of smoke even at 9k+ RPM, at least for now. Bike doesn't struggle to reach max RPM (UG3; cut off at around ~10k according to user manual, tried once in neutral), this signifies the compression is okay, at least for now.

      Although I could't find a single drop on the ground at all and the last engine oil(Castrol Power 1 20W50, Rs.390/-) quantity looked okay when it was removed within 1900kms(now it is with Motul-7100 20W50), but I do notice that the bottom of crankcase always remains a little bit of wet(not exactly wet, it is kind of moisture with dust attached to it) with some dust. I took the bike to the so called godfather of bajaj motorcycles of my area and showed him that, he said this is normal for almost all bajaj bikes and it is not a problem until you actually see the drops on the ground, but I insisted anyway to change the gasket as I had already bought the gasket kit but he kept saying it is not a problem for now and it will cost Rs.700 to replace all gaskets, I agreed and moved on. Is it literally normal for all (old gen)Pulsars to have a very little bit of moisture and dust attached at the bottom of engine/crankcase? Since the bike has already crossed over 68k kms on odo, in my opinion, I will take extra care of it and will keep change FS engine oil under 4-5k kms.
      A motorcycle with compromised compression would also bounce off the limiter in neutral where there is no load. To do a proper compression test you would need to source a compression gauge or make one if the situation demands as there is no definite way of guessing if compression is adequate. Though if everything else is well then you could skip this unless OCD takes over.

      Using a cheaper and reliable mineral oil for 2k km's would do more good for the motorcycle than use an expensive FS and changing at longer intervals. There is blow by and clutch wear residue that gets mixed along with the engine oil and extending oil change intervals is as counter productive as it can get.

      I am toward efficiency inclined. Being a web developer and the trait of follwing my obsessive complusion disorder of writing as much efficient and fast code as possible in every activity I can do is probably why I am actually loving the P220F's sprocket set.
      I only wanted a bike for touring only(this is my first bike lol) and I am also past the age of all the thoughts of acting as a hooligan biker that we used to do on friends' bikes 12 years ago.
      Efficiency is not about extracting maximum fuel efficiency from a motor which ironically is not the case with overgearing as people tend to believe, efficiency is all about optimizing the full potential of the motorcycle in all aspects. On an overgeared motorcycle you would be putting excess load on the crank, clutch and transmission as compared to what it was designed to hold, and this is something that you wont straight away notice on the straights, but once you start touring instead of commuting then it would bite you in the rear when you least expect it to.

      My P220 on stock gearing was dope as far as the highways went, my bi-weekly commute was 1600 km's 800km's one side home and back from my hostel during college days, the P220 would glide along at 120~130kmph with minimal throttle input and I was more than happy with the motorcycle, but once out of the blue we decided to head for Guruvayur which is just a 100+ km's from my home and that's when I realized that with luggage and a pillion the motorcycle was unable to climb some inclines even in 1st gear without pinging.

      Another downside of a tall gearing is that it adversely affects riding dynamics, your engine braking and acceleration would not be as efficient as was originally designed to be, this can be a dangerous to an extent when it comes to slowing down efficiently as well as getting out of a pickle when required.

      Acceleration is not just about being a hooligan, it has more to do about efficiently performing an overtake which is something a good percent of Indians get wrong, once you have a clear line of sight you notify the driver in front of you and overtake with surgical precision and for that you need acceleration. The less informed people who overtake at a snails pace are not only putting themselves at risk but also risking the lives of other road users not to mention being a huge inconvenience. People have a notion that being in the tallest possible gear and doing the lowest RPM would give you the best fuel efficiency possible but that is not actually true, the motor gives the best possible fuel efficiency at its optimum performance range and as for fuel consumption it depends on throttle input and has nothing to do with RPM's and gearing in the short term.

      Okay long story short, I don't know how most users haven't realized and talked about in here is that 180 UG3(2006-2008) actually came with 1Nm of more torque (15.2 Nm) as compared to UG4 and UG4+ (2009-20xx) that now come with 14.2 Nm of torque. And that too comes at lower RPM; 6k RPM (UG3) vs 6.5k RPM(UG4), making UG3 quicker if all other affecting variablea are same. And theoretically (hopefully practically too), that makes UG3 stock quicker than UG4 stock and I thought when my main intension is not at all to race or show off then I can compensate little bit of that extra quickness into more speed at each RPM that not only result in more mileage, doing so will also put even less strain on engine, and that is good for long touring. After changing the sprocket set, I did notice the decrease in pickup but I can always compensate it by riding at lower gear and the feel I get when I see 10+ km/h of speed improvements on 5k and 6k RPM and 12+ km/h on 7k RPM is literally awesome. My bike will remain this way, and I do believe that pickup at each gear should still be on par(highly likely) or may be even better(unlikely) than the stock UG4 due to the torque difference. But honestly I am not that much of an optimistic though and I know the grass may not be always greener on the other side lol because all this I am feeling only applies when assuming that Bajaj would not make UG4 actually more efficient than UG3 because if it is true than what I am feeling due to paper torque may be nothing but mere a effect of placebo, but until proven otherwise I will stick to the thought that it is still at least on per with UG4. Nevermind, the feel of overtaking most vehicles is still the same. This is the story man. And this is why I am loving this sprocket.
      Specs on paper only go so far to allure a potential buyer. If the motorcycle is running right then that is all that should matter, just make sure to account for load from carrying luggage/pillion and climbing uphill and if all is right then do keep the gearing to your taste if not then go stock.

      The reason I run a short gearing is cause I haul luggage and am able to utilize the motorcycles performance more, as going +4 teeth has still no noticeable effects on the top speed which goes to show how over geared the motorcycle is in stock form with a final drive ratio of 2.6 whereas with a 40T at rear I land at a decent(still tall by normal standards) ratio of 2.85, all things considered try to keep the ration not taller than 2.75 and not shorter than 3.10 if you really wish to efficiently utilize your motorcycle.

      Do watch this video when you find the time;

      Motorcycling Experience:
      2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
      2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
      2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
      2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
      2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
      2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

      The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
      Adios Comrades!
      A.P. 2018

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      • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

        @ashwinprakas, thanks for all the info, I'll take every point into consideration. Btw if you are under the impression that I let my bike's engine lug/knock specifically due to the overgearing then you are totally wrong. I never let the engine lug, never, ever never. Because I know lugging is the moat easiest way one can damage their engine(of course it too depends on the frequency and time period of lugging). And for all the situations I have faced till now including tens of ghat area, current overgearing with a pillion is not a problem with me(or precisely, it is the riding style that include smooth and gradual acceleration that let the bike reach at its optimum speed while holding the throttle at a constant position, till the rear wheel rpm and cumbustion reaches equilibrium at that specific quantity of air-fuel mixture that is directly connected to our right hand). Yes the only significant thing I have observed after overgearing is that I now use 2nd and 3rd gear more often than before, inside the city(still no lugging, and no unnecessary high RPM). Theoretically this may make my bike's transmission's 2nd and 3rd gears(driver and driven) to wear out at 'relatively' faster rate among other bikes of similar hardware on the street. But the degree of happening of this kind of damage and the time of it are still unknown and can only be observed in long term if it does have to happen anyway. Lets see what happens till then.
        Last edited by rainydriver; 07-20-2018, 03:05 PM.

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        • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

          My Pulsar 180 UG4 Front Disc is jammed and tyre is not rotating freely and engine is getting heated.
          Upon checking the caliper, pistons stuck and doesn't retract. So trying to rebuild the caliper
          How do I detach Bolt Flange which has Protection Boot and Insulator of Front Caliper Assembly?
          There are screws on both ends of Protection Boot and Insulator but I'am not able to unscrew them.
          I tried to hammer the Bolt Flange slightly but it doesn't detach. Should I use more force to detach it?

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          • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

            Originally posted by javvadi View Post
            My Pulsar 180 UG4 Front Disc is jammed and tyre is not rotating freely and engine is getting heated.
            Upon checking the caliper, pistons stuck and doesn't retract. So trying to rebuild the caliper
            How do I detach Bolt Flange which has Protection Boot and Insulator of Front Caliper Assembly?
            There are screws on both ends of Protection Boot and Insulator but I'am not able to unscrew them.
            I tried to hammer the Bolt Flange slightly but it doesn't detach. Should I use more force to detach it?
            You do not need to hammer it or unscrew anything, the design is called a floating caliper for a reason, just slide it off.
            Motorcycling Experience:
            2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
            2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
            2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
            2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
            2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
            2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

            The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
            Adios Comrades!
            A.P. 2018

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            • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

              Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
              You do not need to hammer it or unscrew anything, the design is called a floating caliper for a reason, just slide it off.
              It doesn't slide at all. This is where I've hammered it. I assume, I need a soft face/rubber hammer.

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              • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                Originally posted by javvadi View Post
                It doesn't slide at all. This is where I've hammered it. I assume, I need a soft face/rubber hammer.
                Use brake fluid and let it set overnight. I would not suggest using undue force as it can compromise the calipers material integrity.
                Motorcycling Experience:
                2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                Adios Comrades!
                A.P. 2018

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                • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                  Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                  Use brake fluid and let it set overnight. I would not suggest using undue force as it can compromise the calipers material integrity.
                  Thank you. Sounds good to me.

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                  • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                    Originally posted by javvadi View Post
                    Thank you. Sounds good to me.
                    Also if able to source, try forming a mixture of Acetone and ATF, I recently read an article that the aforementioned mixture is the best penetrative solution around.
                    Motorcycling Experience:
                    2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                    2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                    2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                    2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                    2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                    2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                    The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                    Adios Comrades!
                    A.P. 2018

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                    • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                      Originally posted by javvadi View Post
                      It doesn't slide at all. This is where I've hammered it. I assume, I need a soft face/rubber hammer.
                      Use WD 40 spray to loosen the screw.

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                      • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                        My pulsar 180 ug4 making annoying noise from right side of the engine(clutch side). When engine is cold, its running like new bike, after running 1,2km its making making that annoying sound. First I think it's from tappet or may be timing chain, but it's not. And also my engine getting hot, even its short ride like 3,4km. May be it's from lean afr setting, adjusted it but engine still get hot. Please help me...

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                        • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                          Originally posted by Manashjyoti View Post
                          My pulsar 180 ug4 making annoying noise from right side of the engine(clutch side). When engine is cold, its running like new bike, after running 1,2km its making making that annoying sound. First I think it's from tappet or may be timing chain, but it's not. And also my engine getting hot, even its short ride like 3,4km. May be it's from lean afr setting, adjusted it but engine still get hot. Please help me...
                          What sound are you referring to?

                          Being an air cooled motorcycle it is bound to get hot, and since there are several moving components inside it is normal for some rattle to be there.

                          So only bother if you hear anything unusual i.e loose foundation, timing chain rattle, tappet noise or clutch basket.
                          Motorcycling Experience:
                          2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                          2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                          2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                          2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                          2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                          2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                          The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                          Adios Comrades!
                          A.P. 2018

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                          • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                            Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                            What sound are you referring to?

                            Being an air cooled motorcycle it is bound to get hot, and since there are several moving components inside it is normal for some rattle to be there.

                            So only bother if you hear anything unusual i.e loose foundation, timing chain rattle, tappet noise or clutch basket.

                            I think the unusual noise is from clutch basket. How to fix this ? Help me

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                            • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                              Originally posted by Manashjyoti View Post
                              I think the unusual noise is from clutch basket. How to fix this ? Help me
                              Open clutch cover and inspect.

                              Do have a look at the balancer as well.
                              Motorcycling Experience:
                              2000 ~ 2017 Y2K Kinetic Zoom (Disposed at 15k)
                              2011 ~ 2015 Hero Honda Karizma R (Sold at 56.5k)
                              2013 ~ 2014 Bajaj Discover 100 4G (Sold at 16.5k)
                              2015 ~ 2017 TVS Wego (Totaled at 18k)
                              2015 - Bajaj Pulsar 220F (Currently 31k) < Garage Queen!
                              2017 - Bajaj CT100B (Currently 21k) < 'Golden Quadrilateral' Runner!

                              The Ride was Good, but Life is short, spend it Wisely!
                              Adios Comrades!
                              A.P. 2018

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                              • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                                Originally posted by ashwinprakas View Post
                                Also if able to source, try forming a mixture of Acetone and ATF, I recently read an article that the aforementioned mixture is the best penetrative solution around.
                                Originally posted by Nathaniel Peter View Post
                                Use WD 40 spray to loosen the screw.

                                Thank you for the suggestions and sorry for the delay in replying.
                                What actually worked for me was to heat it with gas welding and one good hit with a soft face hammer, it got detached.

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