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  • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

    Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
    And. My bike mileage has dropped fiercely yet again. After setting the AFR to a leaner mixture I now am getting a mileage of 32 kmpl. I'm clueless and frustrated. Don't know what is wrong.
    Originally posted by SparKot View Post
    Did you try 100ml mileage-can test ? If not then ask SVC personnel to arrange one for you. Find a 5-6 kms stretch of flat & straight road for better results.
    DO NOT do the mileage test on an empty straight road ! Do it only in normal roads with a bit of traffic and turns..that way you will get close to what you shud expect in normal riding conditions. You should get close to 4km on 100ml. And do not forget to drain the carb (using the drain screw) before you start the test.
    Also get the valve clearances and air filter checked.
    Also if possible, post a pic of both the spark plugs from BEFORE you take the test.

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    • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

      Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
      And. My bike mileage has dropped fiercely yet again. After setting the AFR to a leaner mixture I now am getting a mileage of 32 kmpl. I'm clueless and frustrated. Don't know what is wrong.

      The smoother the engine runs the better mileage you will get, so get your bikes A/F ratio corrected lean mixture will ruin the engine.

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      • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

        Originally posted by s1d View Post
        DO NOT do the mileage test on an empty straight road ! Do it only in normal roads with a bit of traffic and turns..that way you will get close to what you shud expect in normal riding conditions. You should get close to 4km on 100ml. And do not forget to drain the carb (using the drain screw) before you start the test.
        Also get the valve clearances and air filter checked.
        Also if possible, post a pic of both the spark plugs from BEFORE you take the test.
        But s1d, ARAI figure is 60 kmpl for Pulsar180 : http://www.*********/bike/mileage/bajaj/pulsar-180/ not to mention other biker's reports on the same page.

        I'm don't know how to get mileage reports from ARAI website though. Even if we give 20% slack to ARAI figure, Pulsar180 ought to give 48 kmpl.

        PS: That's vicky-dot-in btw... (blacklisted site)
        Last edited by SparKot; 07-07-2014, 01:52 PM.
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        • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

          [MENTION=36366]SparKot[/MENTION] [MENTION=49419]kusmaker[/MENTION] [MENTION=16602]s1d[/MENTION] here's what happened.

          - The ASC guy filled 100 ml of petrol exact in the can and attached the pipe to the carb after removing the fuel tank connection
          - He then asked me to sit on the pillion, which was btw my first time on the bike.
          - We drove till the bike choked to a stop and it wouldn't start, thus draining the card
          - He then switched the can knob on and then we reset the trip meter
          - We drove on a service lane with shifts at around 3.5k with medium traffic like in the city for 3.5 km
          - We then turned to the highway where he drove the bike at speeds of 75kmph constantly until the bike started giving way at 5.1 km and finally stopping at 5.2 km

          So eventually we got a good 5.2 km out of a 100ml of petrol with mixed riding conditions. I fail to understand then why am I getting a mileage of 32 when I check reserve to reserve and with 5 litres petrol. And yes, my method is correct since I reset the tripmeter as soon as I hit reserve.

          I'm thinking of moving from Shell to Indian Oil for some time to see if there's a difference. Quite possible that I'm not getting the exact quantity of fuel.


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          • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

            Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
            @SparKot @kusmaker @s1d here's what happened.

            - The ASC guy filled 100 ml of petrol exact in the can and attached the pipe to the carb after removing the fuel tank connection
            - He then asked me to sit on the pillion, which was btw my first time on the bike.
            - We drove till the bike choked to a stop and it wouldn't start, thus draining the card
            - He then switched the can knob on and then we reset the trip meter
            - We drove on a service lane with shifts at around 3.5k with medium traffic like in the city for 3.5 km
            - We then turned to the highway where he drove the bike at speeds of 75kmph constantly until the bike started giving way at 5.1 km and finally stopping at 5.2 km

            So eventually we got a good 5.2 km out of a 100ml of petrol with mixed riding conditions. I fail to understand then why am I getting a mileage of 32 when I check reserve to reserve and with 5 litres petrol. And yes, my method is correct since I reset the tripmeter as soon as I hit reserve.

            I'm thinking of moving from Shell to Indian Oil for some time to see if there's a difference. Quite possible that I'm not getting the exact quantity of fuel.


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            Hi there, I can so vouch for your observations. I had them too..

            The reason why you getting different results is because the tank of a 180 has two sides between the chassis and the can which had 100ml fuel was direct. Also, when you check the mileage from reserve to reserve will never be accurate because of presence of fuel on the right side of the tank, that's why you get different numbers many times. Also, my Ex P180 digital fuel meter never showed accurate results.

            We fear that we might run out of fuel once the digital meter hits empty, but due to safety regulations for the user fuel is always there in the tank. We just need to tilt to start.
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            • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

              Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
              @SparKot @kusmaker @s1d here's what happened.

              - The ASC guy filled 100 ml of petrol exact in the can and attached the pipe to the carb after removing the fuel tank connection
              - He then asked me to sit on the pillion, which was btw my first time on the bike.
              - We drove till the bike choked to a stop and it wouldn't start, thus draining the card
              - He then switched the can knob on and then we reset the trip meter
              - We drove on a service lane with shifts at around 3.5k with medium traffic like in the city for 3.5 km
              - We then turned to the highway where he drove the bike at speeds of 75kmph constantly until the bike started giving way at 5.1 km and finally stopping at 5.2 km

              So eventually we got a good 5.2 km out of a 100ml of petrol with mixed riding conditions. I fail to understand then why am I getting a mileage of 32 when I check reserve to reserve and with 5 litres petrol. And yes, my method is correct since I reset the tripmeter as soon as I hit reserve.

              I'm thinking of moving from Shell to Indian Oil for some time to see if there's a difference. Quite possible that I'm not getting the exact quantity of fuel.
              Excellent, there you've it.

              Q: Shell are supposed to be equivalent to COCO pumps. Even if you switch to other pumps, the doubt will lingering around inside your/our head.
              A: Try to source a 5L Jerrycan & fill it up at pump & try.

              Q: There can also be a higher probability of someone stealing your petrol using carb-drain-screw.
              A: lock on petcock ?

              Q: Is reserve-fill-reserve method reliable?
              A: It can't be accurate, but try to maintain a sheet/record of fuel-refill & ODO readings. You'll get an approximate figure after several such readings.

              Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
              - The ASC guy filled 100 ml of petrol exact in the can
              How did he make sure it was exact 100ml? coz, markings on mileage-test-can can't be reliable.
              e.g. Mileage-test-can that I recently bought shows 125ml for 100ml fill; 250ml for 200ml fill.

              I've 100ml, 250ml & 1000ml measuring beakers/jars which are accurate wrt each other.
              Last edited by SparKot; 07-07-2014, 05:35 PM.
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              • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                How did he make sure it was exact 100ml? coz, markings on mileage-test-can can't be reliable.
                e.g. Mileage-test-can that I recently bought shows 125ml for 100ml fill; 250ml for 200ml fill.

                I've 100ml, 250ml & 1000ml measuring beakers/jars which are accurate wrt each other.
                He used a transparent jar with a fuel tap on it. It had markers for 100ml-1000ml. So not sure if it really was accurate.
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                • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                  Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
                  He used a transparent jar with a fuel tap on it. It had markers for 100ml-1000ml. So not sure if it really was accurate.
                  Going by the mileage test results, you should get around 42-45 in regular commuting.
                  Either its fuel theft/leakage or your calculations are going wary somewhere (like for e.g. eshan mentioned above). Fuel quality too maybe
                  The best way to check for mileage now that you have done the 100ml test is to:
                  1. Tank full
                  2. Reset rip
                  3. Ride around 100km
                  4. Tank full
                  Calculate mileage: 100 divided by (amount of fuel filled in step 4)
                  If possible get a lock n key type fuel tap.

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                  Originally posted by SparKot View Post
                  But s1d, ARAI figure is 60 kmpl for Pulsar180
                  I'm don't know how to get mileage reports from ARAI website though. Even if we give 20% slack to ARAI figure, Pulsar180 ought to give 48 kmpl.
                  If a P180 is ridden the way it should (u know occasional ripping etc etc..) the on road mileage i have observed is around 42 (i have a heavy hand on the throttle).. drive a bit more sanely and its around 45 ish.. and drive faster with always ripping it drops to a low 37.. I have never extracted more than that cos i never rode it like a ....

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                  • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                    Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
                    He used a transparent jar with a fuel tap on it. It had markers for 100ml-1000ml. So not sure if it really was accurate.

                    Most of these jars are close to accurate, so nothing to worry on accuracy front, what you can do is completely empty the fuel tank and then fill the tank with exact 1lt of petrol and then conduct the mileage test, but do keep some extra fuel with you.

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                    • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                      Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                      what you can do is completely empty the fuel tank and then fill the tank with exact 1lt of petrol and then conduct the mileage test, but do keep some extra fuel with you.
                      If you look at the shape and the specs of the fuel tank of a pulsar 180, it would not be possible to run the bike with 1 litre of petrol and do a mileage test. Every 5 mins he would have to keep tilting the bike to get the fuel flowing
                      The method I have posted above is foolproof and doesn't depend on the tank shape,reserve capacity, fuel gauge,fuel tap ... just a simple tankful-100km-tankfull [MENTION=70413]metalmaniac[/MENTION] .. also just park the bike and keep the petrol tap at on/reserve and observe for a while and run your finger under the tank/tap area and see if there is any petrol leakage
                      Last edited by s1d; 07-08-2014, 11:42 AM.

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                      • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                        Originally posted by s1d View Post
                        If you look at the shape and the specs of the fuel tank of a pulsar 180, it would not be possible to run the bike with 1 litre of petrol and do a mileage test. Every 5 mins he would have to keep tilting the bike to get the fuel flowing
                        The method I have posted above is foolproof and doesn't depend on the tank shape,reserve capacity, fuel gauge,fuel tap ... just a simple tankful-100km-tankfull [MENTION=70413]metalmaniac[/MENTION] .. also just park the bike and keep the petrol tap at on/reserve and observe for a while and run your finger under the tank/tap area and see if there is any petrol leakage
                        Thanks mate, I'm actually gonna do the full tank test today! And yeah I checked and I haven't seen any sort of leakage under the tank area and not even observed anything like that when I'm riding.

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                        • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                          Originally posted by s1d View Post
                          If you look at the shape and the specs of the fuel tank of a pulsar 180, it would not be possible to run the bike with 1 litre of petrol and do a mileage test. Every 5 mins he would have to keep tilting the bike to get the fuel flowing
                          The method I have posted above is foolproof and doesn't depend on the tank shape,reserve capacity, fuel gauge,fuel tap ... just a simple tankful-100km-tankfull @metalmaniac .. also just park the bike and keep the petrol tap at on/reserve and observe for a while and run your finger under the tank/tap area and see if there is any petrol leakage

                          Yeah man i forgot that tank shape, you are right such a little amount of fuel will be more troublesome.

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                          • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                            Also guys, my bike has hit 1200 kms on the odo. Last oil change was at 500 kms when I serviced my bike at the ASC (Bajaj DTSi 10000). Do you think it's time for an oil change yet?

                            If yes which oil would you suggest for a bike which rides 30 km in the city daily in bad traffic. The Motul 3100 or 5100 or any other product? I'm definitely looking for better mileage here without heftily compromising on performance.

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                            Last edited by metalmaniac; 07-08-2014, 05:31 PM.
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                            • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                              Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
                              Also guys, my bike has hit 1200 kms on the odo. Last oil change was at 500 kms when I serviced my bike at the ASC (Bajaj DTSi 10000). Do you think it's time for an oil change yet?

                              If yes which oil would you suggest for a bike which rides 30 km in the city daily in bad traffic. The Motul 3100 or 5100 or any other product? I'm definitely looking for better mileage here without heftily compromising on performance.

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                              First of all get that crappy bajaj oil out of the engine as soon as you can, motul is the best oil for bajaj go for 5100.

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                              Originally posted by metalmaniac View Post
                              Also guys, my bike has hit 1200 kms on the odo. Last oil change was at 500 kms when I serviced my bike at the ASC (Bajaj DTSi 10000). Do you think it's time for an oil change yet?

                              If yes which oil would you suggest for a bike which rides 30 km in the city daily in bad traffic. The Motul 3100 or 5100 or any other product? I'm definitely looking for better mileage here without heftily compromising on performance.

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                              First of all get that crappy bajaj oil out of the engine as soon as you can, motul is the best oil for bajaj go for 5100.

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                              • Re: Bajaj Pulsar 180 (All Versions)

                                Originally posted by kusmaker View Post
                                First of all get that crappy bajaj oil out of the engine as soon as you can, motul is the best oil for bajaj go for 5100.

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                                First of all get that crappy bajaj oil out of the engine as soon as you can, motul is the best oil for bajaj go for 5100.
                                Haha! Ok man! But tell me is it too early for 5100? I've read somewhere that the 3100 is almost as good as the 5100 and is suitable for the initial days after which I may move to 5100. What do u suggest? I've clocked in just 1200 kms now.

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